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Mitchell VS Burns
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Kriskin what are you talking about? I've credited the lad plenty just becuase you're such a sage and backed him and me and Arthur didnt doesnt mean we dont like the Rickster. We just aint as knowledgable as you
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c'mon sj credit where its due you haven't rated the lad and he was bang impressive tonight.
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so who next folks this tw@t Broner perhaps
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sj - u stated on this thread that u don't rate Ricky.
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you should read back what you wrote sj
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who expected burn to do that, although i did know about 20 secs into round 2 he was gonna win, unless Mitchell ahs lost all his wits and skill that was impressive
but who is he gonna fihgt not Scott harrison now surely |
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All the aftertimers thought he would mate. I wish people would read all I wrote was I couldnt back him at 8-13 after one world class performance not if those in question could point out anymore let me know.
Didnt Mitchell get blown away in3 by Katsidis? Just checking? |
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I dont belive this getting berated for not backing Burns at 8-13. LOL. Fu ck posting here anymore, like a witch hunt. you want my bet for tonight
http://www.secondsout.com/news/main-news/the-betting-ring-with-james-walt Cheerio its been quite something |
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You can say what you like sj but you've slaughtered Burns long before tonight.
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Good to see you've proved me wrong there
 Like I say highly amusing, I havent even got it wrong cos I've said I wouldnt play the fight pathetic but there you havent it. I'll stick to the direct message lads too many know it all's when the occasional big fight comes on, highly amusing |
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sj - I've spoken many times with u and respect your views. I'm not having a go at u
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SJ - you are a complete bum when it comes to boxing.
`I dont rate Burns' `I dont rate Bellew'. Uttterly clueless. I hope you dont give anyone boxing betting advice. Burns and Bellew are both beautiful classical, stylish boxers. They train like fuuuccckkkkkk and live the life. They both have fantastic jabs which they use as offensive and defensive weapons and can adapt to any opposition. Burns is clearly an elite lighweight boxer and Bellew proved v Cleverley he is world class. They are both still improving. `Dont rate them': PIIIIISSS OFFF. |
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Looks like your throwing a bit of a hissy fit.
Don't see anybody saying you called the fight wrong more the case you've gave Burns no credit at all since you done your dough on Martinez. |
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tell us what you really think of sj |
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What are you talking about then mate? I've said I like the lad so what I couldnt back him at 8-13. That is it. If Broner or DeMarco beat him up I wouldnt come on here saying "I told you so" unreal but there you go.
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so who had th enear 8 to 1 on here then for the burns stopage, no fecker i have seen stuck this up, alex arthur who is a bit of a plum but must know more about these 2 boxers than most couldnt split them derek billington said put 3pts on Mitchell to stop Burns a lot of people got that fight wrong including
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me
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No mate all these lot were all over the Burns stoppage, cos they really rate Burns as world class so stopping a bloke who was in big trouble V Estrada(I doubt they know who he is) life and death with Johannson and smashed by Kats in three, these boys would of been all over the stoppage
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i dont think boner will want to fight him on that
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I still can't have Burns. Have i got a mental block, am I in denial?
Could be, but my gut feeling is that he beat a fragile Mitchell tonight and still hasn't done anything to signify he's an outstanding elite fighter. I find him wooden, i don't like his variety punch wise, don't like how he throws his shots and i think he's vulnerable against a decent puncher. He was very effective defensively when closing up and blocking shots against Katsidis but there was absolutely nothing in Mick's punches, he was gassed power wise from the 2nd round and anyone who caught Katsidis next fight, a loss to a below average african lad will know that Burns fought dead man walking. Burns didn't look a defensive mastermind against Martinez, he hung on several times and i feel will be caught wanting against any world class oppo in their prime over the next 12 months. It was impressive tonight, real good job but if he wants to be considered elite he has to go in with a fighter who has absolutely no doubts surrounding him. He doesn't even have to win, if he's competitive with a Broner, De Marco even Abril I'd say I've had Burns wrong, hes earnt his stripes. Talk of being elite and 'one of the great british fighters' are really baffling me. |
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I backed it and put it up beforehand, but really does it matter? No need for all the back biting is there, we all get it right and wrong at different times...the more opinions the better as far as I'm concerned, decent bit of discussion on here can often be very valuable in forcing you to look at things from a different perspective. Be a shame if we lost that.
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I had a small double on perez and mitchell but I totally agreed with Paul Smith's comments at the end of the fight when he basically said no method of victory result would have been a suprise tonight.
It's not a new, post Burns fight discussion whether Mitchell's punch resistance has gone. We've spoke about it on here for years and this was the first proper fight since the brutal Murray tear up. People have reacted like Burns has stopped Juan Manuel Marquez early. He really hasn't. |
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Duke - very good posts. I don't think most people on here are saying Ricky is Top class but I feel he does not get the respect from certain corners within the game
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Agree, just annoyed when you hear the words `I dont rate'.
Could you imagine sj meeting Burns in bar and saying `I dont rate you at boxing'. It is beyond ridiculous. Duke fair comments and he has some way to become a `great british fighter'. I think he is elite level at lightweight now, in that I mean in top 3, with Broner/De Marco. |
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I don't think anyone is saying he's ring magazine No.1
But now its Martinez had his worse night/Katsidis was gone/Mitchell was finished??? I believe he's somewhere in between but whatever you think he deserves massive credit for where he's come from and what he's achieved. |
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DT how you putting that down to Mitchell"s punch resistance gone? When did he have any? He's 27.
He never had any in the first place when he wasn't fighting diddies and was now fighting a world class fighter. Burns might not be top class but he has proved much more in his fights than Mitchell who has done **** all his entire career. |
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SJ getting some right grief.
You know you've made it when you've got haters mate. |
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That's bang on owlife. I am jealous.
Lol. Worst thing was he never even picked Mitchell to win. lololol. All he said was I dnt wana have a bet on this fight because he didn't feel 8/13 was value on burns. And he got slated. Infact he won as he backed frampton his only boxing bet today. |
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Classic example of y alot of honest posters dnt wana post no more
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The hatered on the forum is becoming almost unbearable
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A bit sad to see the sychophants desperate to defend.
But then I guess thats what the boxing forum has become. |
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a forum with people forming different opinions and debating them .......remarkable as this happened before
wot i dont think is neccessarily helpful is HYPE cos it was hype that made Camelot a 2/5 shot and it was hype that sayed the titanic could not be sunk i have never seen SJs posts before but alls he seems to be saying from what little i can see is that burns wasnt an attractive bet BEFORE the match at 8/11. I have watched virtually every fight of his pro career and am a big fan but i didnt back him. The boxing forum is sparse enough as it is without hounding out someone that puts up a reasoned argument just cos it turns out to be wrong..... I am still struggling to put last nights match into context tbh as emotions were running high at chateaux Pickens but I dont believe that we have seen the best from Burns. I am sure now he is entering his peak age and he can get better still as he will need to,i do not agree that he is wooden as his foot work seems good his jab looks rock solid andhe does not seem to be a fud like Amir who wants to go rushing in and squaring up to sluggers, i like the way he took his time to settle then when he was sure he slowly cranked it up, but I do not know if this will be good enough against your top tier. Lets hope FW doesnt wrap him in cotton wool and we get the chance to find out, what I do know is that following him will be a lot more conducive than watching the likes of Khan, Audley and Haye. Anyway I fancy a trip to Vegas in march gets too hot for my me after then... |
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Same KLOWNS as usual trying to defend sj on the BURNS ISSUE. No one has doubted sj's views in general. It's the statement of "Burns is NOT a good boxer".
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Christ, get a grip Kriskin.
He didn't think Burns was value at 8/13, big deal. Very few people saw a Burns stoppage coming let alone an early one. People bet with their head and Burns only had one good win before this one. Do you now believe Burns is world class after this? |
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i do hope u are not reffering to me as a klown krispin?
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you still not convinced owl? I think the kid could go a long way personally, the move to lightweight has done wonders. Looks so strong at the weight. Just hope Frank lets him off the leash.
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Please read sj's post at 6.27pm. Does NOT RATE Burns as a boxer. He wasn't betting him at odds on but also stated about not rating him.
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owl - I said in this thread maybe Ricky is NOT top class but he deserves more credit from certain media people. Maybe if he was from England he would get this recognition.
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now that i would agree wiht but what can you expect when people like that fecking squeeky voiced eejit bunce are taken seriously, did he not say something last night about burns just before ko?
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Kriskin 23 Sep 12 13:54 Joined: 08 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 8,482 | Blogger: Kriskin's blog
Please read sj's post at 6.27pm. Does NOT RATE Burns as a boxer. He wasn't betting him at odds on but also stated about not rating him. Yes I dont rate him enough to back him at 8-13. We are picking up word for word now? Jesus Christ how pathetic, some people really do get their kilt s in a twist |