Darley fees 2012

a few going up and a supriseingly srtong entry point for pv if my mole is correct

If your mole has a say, tell them to wise up.  He's a 6k stallion in the UK, forget Makfi thats comedy money.

that was my view also,i heard he was going to be more than double that !! i was deff interested in sending one to him but no chance if he's in that ball park

Any news on Delegator's future at all? I was told early in the year by Sam Bullard that they were planning to stand him

Poet's Voice gentlemen, the way to go I'd have thought, a lot more ability than he ever got to show due to his inability to settle and he still got a Group 1, and whatsmore, a prestige Group 1. By a sire who's progeny are good at 2, but get even better at 3. I t all depends on the fee I suppose but I can't see anything not to like about this fella.

Sounds like the fee may disprove your last theory neil d!

will some fees go up?
wicht stallions?

any predictions?

What would he be would ye think, 10-12k, maybe 15k in a really bad scenario? I was thinking at first he'd be around 7 or 8k

I thought he was a smashing 2yo, he hadn't a clue how to race though, really improved for being ridden cold.

will E and E fee will raise?

yes plenty

This is rather depressing. The rationale might be that they're using good mares to him and thus his fee cant be too low but why put people off at 10k+. How many £40k+ yearlings is he going to have with no runners - a dozen?  E & E was one of a handful of UK sires (almost) guaranteeing a profit for a decent foal but not at £20k.  Next it'll be Kyllachy back up to £12k and Dutch Art £10k.  Clearly 2 years of being reasonable was enough.

maybe E and E will stand at 15 £ next year.....
2 group 1 winner, the price will go up

cape cross will go down , no great winner..........

i heard more than that roy and no reduction for cc, i could be wromg

I suppose Exceed and Excel will go on? I just have a slight worry though as he hasn't always been the easiest commercially and there have been times when temperament doubts amongst other things have made him tricky. A quieter year and those doubts resurfacing could make a silly fee now look very expensive down the line. . .

Cape Cross gets you a runner, tightens up a mares dodgy conformation and has never been short of goodwill from breeders looking to start a nice mare off to a good start. Sales were a bit more solid this year so I suppose you can see the rationale in keeping him static. Darley are certainly not quite the benefactors they may have appeared pre 2010.

pv 12
e&e 2250
dub 75
teo 25
they are no making it easy

*not

Crazy pricing cant figure out what Dubawi has done this year to merit a rise to 75k

Its official http://darley.co.uk/news/press-release-6



Dalham Hall Stud    
Dubawi    £75,000
Exceed And Excel    £22,500
New Approach    £22,500
NEW Poet's Voice    £12,000
Authorized    £10,000
Halling    £10,000
Shirocco    £7,000
Kheleyf    £4,000
    
Kildangan Stud    
Shamardal    €50,000
Cape Cross     €35,000
Teofilo     €25,000
Raven's Pass     €22,500
Iffraaj     €10,000
Manduro     €10,000
Vale Of York     €5,000
Echo Of Light     €3,000


Haras du Logis    
King's Best    €12,000
Slickly     €7,000
Refuse To Bend     €5,000
Alexandros     €4,000
Country Reel     €4,000
Creachadoir     €3,000
    
The Royal Studs, Norfolk    
Royal Applause    £9,000
Terms: Oct 1, Special live foal

and the American fees
Jonabell Farm, Kentucky

Bernardini    $150,000
Street Cry    $150,000
Medaglia d'Oro     $100,000
Elusive Quality     $50,000
Hard Spun     $40,000
Street Sense     $40,000
NEW Lonhro     $30,000
Any Given Saturday     $15,000
Quiet American     $15,000
Street Boss     $15,000
Discreet Cat     $12,500
Henny Hughes     $12,500
Midshipman     $12,500
Rockport Harbor     $12,500
Desert Party     $10,000
Holy Bull     $10,000
NEW Regal Ransom     $7,500
    
Sequel Stallions, New York

NEW Girolamo
$15,000
Terms: Stands and nurses

Echoing what Gimcrack said - Where's Delegator?

Nothing else appeals, it's all about cheap speed for PP. With the emphasis on the cheap.

Dubawi very expensive as JMC said.

Kheleyf is well priced at £4k

I'm very disappointed in there fees this year only interesting two for me are Ravens Pass and Kheleyf. I just hope that its not Suroor who gets the best Ravens Pass's as it could be his downfall. Teofilo got a big rise and i'm not so sure it was justified, saw Parish Hall before and he wasn't that impressive to me. Crazy prices for Dubawi and for one of my favourites Shamardal. Exceed and Excel might get to many stoute mares might not suit. I've heard of a couple of irish breeders going to support Kheleyf big this year