Bloodstock & Breeding
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09 Nov 11
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a few going up and a supriseingly srtong entry point for pv if my mole is correct
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If your mole has a say, tell them to wise up. He's a 6k stallion in the UK, forget Makfi thats comedy money.
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that was my view also,i heard he was going to be more than double that
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Any news on Delegator's future at all? I was told early in the year by Sam Bullard that they were planning to stand him
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Poet's Voice gentlemen, the way to go I'd have thought, a lot more ability than he ever got to show due to his inability to settle and he still got a Group 1, and whatsmore, a prestige Group 1. By a sire who's progeny are good at 2, but get even better at 3. I t all depends on the fee I suppose but I can't see anything not to like about this fella.
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Sounds like the fee may disprove your last theory neil d!
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will some fees go up?
wicht stallions? any predictions? |
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What would he be would ye think, 10-12k, maybe 15k in a really bad scenario? I was thinking at first he'd be around 7 or 8k
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I thought he was a smashing 2yo, he hadn't a clue how to race though, really improved for being ridden cold.
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will E and E fee will raise?
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yes plenty
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This is rather depressing. The rationale might be that they're using good mares to him and thus his fee cant be too low but why put people off at 10k+. How many £40k+ yearlings is he going to have with no runners - a dozen? E & E was one of a handful of UK sires (almost) guaranteeing a profit for a decent foal but not at £20k. Next it'll be Kyllachy back up to £12k and Dutch Art £10k. Clearly 2 years of being reasonable was enough.
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maybe E and E will stand at 15 £ next year.....
2 group 1 winner, the price will go up cape cross will go down , no great winner.......... |
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i heard more than that roy and no reduction for cc, i could be wromg
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I suppose Exceed and Excel will go on? I just have a slight worry though as he hasn't always been the easiest commercially and there have been times when temperament doubts amongst other things have made him tricky. A quieter year and those doubts resurfacing could make a silly fee now look very expensive down the line. . .
Cape Cross gets you a runner, tightens up a mares dodgy conformation and has never been short of goodwill from breeders looking to start a nice mare off to a good start. Sales were a bit more solid this year so I suppose you can see the rationale in keeping him static. Darley are certainly not quite the benefactors they may have appeared pre 2010. |
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pv 12
e&e 2250 dub 75 teo 25 they are no making it easy |
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*not
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Crazy pricing cant figure out what Dubawi has done this year to merit a rise to 75k
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Its official http://darley.co.uk/news/press-release-6
Dalham Hall Stud Dubawi £75,000 Exceed And Excel £22,500 New Approach £22,500 NEW Poet's Voice £12,000 Authorized £10,000 Halling £10,000 Shirocco £7,000 Kheleyf £4,000 Kildangan Stud Shamardal €50,000 Cape Cross €35,000 Teofilo €25,000 Raven's Pass €22,500 Iffraaj €10,000 Manduro €10,000 Vale Of York €5,000 Echo Of Light €3,000 Haras du Logis King's Best €12,000 Slickly €7,000 Refuse To Bend €5,000 Alexandros €4,000 Country Reel €4,000 Creachadoir €3,000 The Royal Studs, Norfolk Royal Applause £9,000 Terms: Oct 1, Special live foal |
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and the American fees
Jonabell Farm, Kentucky Bernardini $150,000 Street Cry $150,000 Medaglia d'Oro $100,000 Elusive Quality $50,000 Hard Spun $40,000 Street Sense $40,000 NEW Lonhro $30,000 Any Given Saturday $15,000 Quiet American $15,000 Street Boss $15,000 Discreet Cat $12,500 Henny Hughes $12,500 Midshipman $12,500 Rockport Harbor $12,500 Desert Party $10,000 Holy Bull $10,000 NEW Regal Ransom $7,500 Sequel Stallions, New York NEW Girolamo $15,000 Terms: Stands and nurses |
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Echoing what Gimcrack said - Where's Delegator?
Nothing else appeals, it's all about cheap speed for PP. With the emphasis on the cheap. |
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Dubawi very expensive as JMC said.
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Kheleyf is well priced at £4k
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I'm very disappointed in there fees this year only interesting two for me are Ravens Pass and Kheleyf. I just hope that its not Suroor who gets the best Ravens Pass's as it could be his downfall. Teofilo got a big rise and i'm not so sure it was justified, saw Parish Hall before and he wasn't that impressive to me. Crazy prices for Dubawi and for one of my favourites Shamardal. Exceed and Excel might get to many stoute mares might not suit. I've heard of a couple of irish breeders going to support Kheleyf big this year
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