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anyone on here worried their mare
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any foals hitting the ground yet ....?
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I'm ten days away workrider and that's with a maiden so who knows what she's up to! Could possibly be on time as they can come on with a rush can't they.
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wish you all the bet with that potential , hope you're not up all night either ..... really hope you hit the jackpot ..... good luck ....
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Thank you workrider. I hope all on here are going to have something to shout about in 2011!
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any word potential .....?
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Sadly no news Workrider. I am not sure how near I am even! I don't have a great record at predicting maiden mares so we'll see. I'm going to do a late check tonight but I'm not actually 'sitting up' yet.
I wonder how Ripvan is getting on. They've got quite a few mares so perhaps they're off and running by now? |
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well you keep yourself warm young man ... a ladys perogative to keep a man waiting , especially if shes a maiden
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Best one we have so far is a Piebald foal which says alot really
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Please don't say it's one of those old wives situations where the teaser got to cover your best mare Ripvan! ?
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may god forgive you potential
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remember walking into a field with the teaser connamara pony ....when this very high class mare came over and as i tried to get him
away from her the bridle came off .. fun and games chasing that pair around the paddock i can tell you ....can you imaging the headlines if he'd had his way ..... |
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No nothing like that Potm at all it was all planned
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One of those moments when your heart goes through your boots and you wish for a speedy demise don't you workrider!!
Unconnected, I remember many years ago at my 1st stud job and I was strimming between a double gateway. I don't know if folks remember the old fashioned wooden gates that had spiked pailings on top that took their height to about 5 foot or so? Anyway, I was careless and a £185k pinhooked foal, by then a yearling, came into the gateway, got into a discussion with the yearling next door reared up and got his foot caught between the pailings. There was plenty of time for me to wish the ground to open up, indeed it felt like about a week, but thank god the pailing eventually snapped and all was well! He was a useless racehorse mind, I hope that wasn't my doing![:x] |
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R V, Phew
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its amazing how it always seems to go on for so long time wise , when you're in a situation like that ......
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Well we've had a couple now. One very classy looking invidual from a well known family. Another strong foal lacks a bit of substance though. How about anyone else?
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well done ripvan ...delighted for you ...keep em coming.....colts or fills ?
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Both colts very happy with them now. I cant let you know what any foal is by for another while[;)]
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Well done Ripvan, nice to get started. I hope you don't mind but I have decided to pinch your idea and breed only colts this year. Genius, why didn't I think of it before?
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over a week now and no more foals ?
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I'm ever more overdue workrider! I'm thinking of donning my gloves and going in with a rope attached to the tractor!
I don't know if Prima Donna is following this. . . Got anything you're excited about yet P. D. ? |
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keep a steady hand potential ...prima is now sleeping full time in the foaling unit i hear.... |
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Now workrider I know you are not being serious!Yes we have a couple of new foals so far a nice colt by a first season sire[;)] and two filly's both by Coolmore sires,the colt has obvious commercial appeal one of the filly's is a bit of a rat the other is a good sort with a plenty good enough page without being outstanding.We have far too many to go yet mind,saying that my own worthless mare who is barren is now retired so Slick got her way in the end(always hated her) but the little darling will live out her days attacking some of slicks blue bloods .BTW has anyone heard if anything by Bushranger has been foaled yet? |
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well done prima delighted for you...is the rat a first foal ?
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Well I think if Irelands no.1 broodmare is retired Slick should replace her with one of hers Prima - that's only fair.
Incidentally I've found ones that are born small and ratty can often make massive progress. Small and fat don't and large and light often never strengthen either. Anyone else have the same idea? |
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workrider,no the rat is foal No4 we have given her every chance so a trip this autumn looks on the cards.
Pot M,I'm not allowed anymore mares as I seem to have a small herd of that mares stock running about at various ages none of the ones here will be sold including the star herself,its got to being an in house joke with both Slick and her stud groom.And yes I agree with your appraisal regarding foal progress,we had a utter rat born last year here one look told us we had no chance it at best looked like a small twin but after a few months it grew into a seriously good sort that is almost completely unrecognisable from what it was last year.Out of interest what feed do you use? We always use Red Mills 20% foal pellets then yearling nuts from new year. |
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My God Prima, don't the waifs and strays mount up! I had a clear out pre Christmas '09, made some unpleasant but I think morally sound decisions about 3 mares and much as it took me some time to get over it, the end emotion was relief and an optimism at a streamlined operation.
And here we are spring 2011 and I find myself with 3 new extras and back to where my spirits were before!! Problems, problems. . .[smiley:crazy] I feed Dodson and Horrell over here. Foal creep pellets as soon as, which if memory serves come in at 18 % and then onto yearling at 16%. We perhaps differ in as much as I move onto yearling cubes a bit earlier than you but basically, great minds etc etc! |
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That mare foaled this morning - I'd forgotten the thread - a colt praise be!
However she is a maiden and not proving to be mother of the year. Having a go one minute and then loving it the next. She will feed him pretty well and is slightly protective so I'm hopeful. I've been standing at the door ALL day and have risked leaving her for a couple of hours now. So I best go out now and see what I'm left with! |
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Yes Pot M the strays do mount up,I seem to own a whole load of horses from a very moderate at best family,I have a yearling filly who will go into training later this year she is now the last.
Its always hard sorting out mares some have to go and some head off to the sales,its never easy is it?We obviously only use Red Mills food here but our daughter over in the UK like you was feeding Dodson and Horrell it is about the best UK brand but now after her Misu Bond foal was with us it did so well on Red Mills Slick's advice was to keep it on it,after some difficulty in sourcing it in the UK she now only uses it and she reports a remarkable improvement in her stock.I don't know but when you are at the sales do you think the our horses have the edge on the English ones?As imo most of the ones from over here do have the edge on the English but I'd be keen to hear views on that from anyone reading this who has used both brands or just has an opinion on this.  And well done for getting a colt hope all is going well with your mare and foal is it by your sales topping sire from last year?[:x] |
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We use Saracen and prefer it to D&H but its marginal. We used to train on Red Mills but its harder to get where we are now. vis a vis 'english' / irish I dont see a big distinction. I'd say there's more of a difference between best US and here. We've tried to import some magic ingredients recomm. by Taylor Made but its hard and moreover they cant send over 20 hrs of sun a day.
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your foal is it by your sales topping sire from last year?
Prima Donna, even I sometimes learn by my mistakes This foal is by a potential 'mistake' too, but I am safe in the knowledge that you have made the same mistake. (Previous posts, not inside knowledge) too.  I am afraid I am not really in a position to comment on English/ Irish bloodstock 'turnout', other than it's a massive sweeping statement! I just don't get to enough sales to compare and contrast. I do think that a lot of 'appearance' is perhaps about the quality of oils in a feed. I also am not a fan of fat bullish youngstock (Camas Park springs to mind) and neither of these things are necessarily something I am aiming for. I perhaps aim for a 'fitter' profile than some and it definitely suits some buyers just as the 'Show Fat' individual still suits some others maybe. |
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Pot M I have just typed a reply only to press the wrong key so have lost the ****ing lot.............if I can I will do it again but we have guests tonight
 [;)] HRE springs to mind!!! |
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Gee, that's just the most uplifting thing we do on here is it NOT!
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To both yer ma and Pot M,
yer ma Saracen is good I think its from the US but I'm not sure I see you did once use Red Mills so shall I take it that you also think its about the best.You don't see a big distinction,that is perhaps right but I have always thought that stock fed on Red Mills always seem better than ones fed on any other feed,but you make a fair point about the US yearlings and I agree the sunshine always helps. Pot M, potentialmillionaire 16 Feb 11 18:32 your foal is it by your sales topping sire from last year? Prima Donna, even I sometimes learn by my mistakes This foal is by a potential 'mistake' too, but I am safe in the knowledge that you have made the same mistake. (Previous posts, not inside knowledge) too.It can only be HRE we are NOT sending anything to him this year he might do it but for us he has NOT so its a no go for us.I tend to agree about the Timmy Hyde brigade,one stud who ALWAYS sends out really well done stock is Croom House from over here,I always think their stuff looks great............and you can guess what they feed!!!!!!For me I like yearlings to look racy but on the fatter side of leanAnyway must get back now is your foal doing well?good luck with it hope he goes the right way for you(T.O') |
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I've been stuck on a chair outside a stable door for the last 4 days and nights, hence you guys all getting a break from my rantings. The mare is still undecided whether motherhood is for her.
I'm sort of giving up the will to live and have decided to let nature take it's course for a few days and then will have to think about fostering. Thanks for your thoughts Prima, if the mare becomes a born again 'barrenner' then I suppose she would become easier to ship - maybe I could chase you know who to Germany |
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sleepness nights are so annoying
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Oh Pot M lets hope she gets on with it soon is she running milk?We have one here who always runs milk for 3+ weeks before foaling piddling about all the time looking like she may start to foal at any second of those 3 weeks,they are a bloody nightmare sometimes,mind you a long wait you should get a colt............and NOT by the 'great German'
DON'T DO IT!!!Let us know when it does come and in the meantime get some rest and keep eating. |
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Interested to hear you are big Red Mills fans. I tried out most when training and I more impressed by it than anything else. I still use it on my 9yo Piccolo gelding who is now hunting and he looks incredible on only 2 bowls Cool'n'cooked a day - real muscle on his neck and shoulder rather than fat. I found when I had him on the equivalent D& H the weight fell off him.
I am suprised that you found it difficult to obtain in the UK. All you need to do is contact head office and get them to supply your local feed merchants. Better still ring up the feed rep, say you're thinking of using it and they will turn up with loads of free samples. I have one mare waiting to foal (mid-March) - shes a first timer due to Striking Ambition - as she had a bit of attitude, I'm hoping she takes to the foal OK. Fortunately shes up in Newmarket so I won't be having sleepless nights! |
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Sorry Pot M I've just re read your post you must think I'm pi$$ed as now I can see she has ALREADY foaled!!Lets hope it all goes well I know how exasperating the situation can be.
Lairy Mary,My daughter did contact her rep who then I understand got a supply for her,I'm glad you also agree with me as imo its the best feed by miles. Good luck with your mare I did have a look at a couple of foals by Striking Ambition at Tatt's Dec' sale,fingers crossed you get a good looking colt. |
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Thanks Prima - I was struggling to work out which of us was going mad as I was a bit ambiguous wasn't I! The mare's attitude has improved and now she is dropping into foal heat which has mellowed her a bit too. It's all a bit odd as she is a meek and mild thing, always at the bottom of the heap. I wonder as she has finally got something weaker than her she is making up for lost time and enjoying being the bully for once.
Anyway, she has a ton of milk and the foal is doing well so I am looking forward to a night in my own bed tonight - Bliss! Onward and upward, we hope. |