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By:
abradburystar
When: 30 Jul 09 10:58
Ben

Candleshoe has a terrible draw stuck out on the wide outside so although I agree with yr views this tempers my enthusiasm. I personally like Laureldean Spirit but it could be a long last 100 yards
By:
ben10
When: 30 Jul 09 11:03
Yeah agree, should be interesting race anyway.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 30 Jul 09 11:23
no real thoughts on the race guys.

the only horse i am interested in today is ZABEEL TOWER in the 8.20 at

musselburgh ran better than finishing position last time out and is off

a winning mark wont mind any rain either will probably do it e/w about

4/1.loves musselburgh as well which is a big plus.
By:
ben10
When: 30 Jul 09 11:30
Doesn't look a bad shout, got a great Musselburgh record, good luck.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 02 Aug 09 10:18
ben that horse you put up at newbury runs today TUKITINYASOK 2.55 chester. as long as the going is good and it doesnt get any softer
i think it could make all from the 1 stall .
ran a blinder last time out in ground that would have hated.
i make it the bet of the day. any thoughts.
By:
ben10
When: 02 Aug 09 11:47
Cheers tlp, didn't notice that running. Don't usually bet on Nurserys this time of year unless I've noted one down. Should be able to make all from the plum draw, perhaps didn't see out the 7f on soft last time.
By:
PHS
When: 14 Aug 09 00:22
Why's this fallen away. It was good.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 14 Aug 09 08:55
ASATEER for me today in the 4.15 at nottingham .

being by alharth these horses usually improve out of sight as 3yos.

i just hope there is still some juice in the ground at nottingham.

as he will need to get his toe in .is only around the 5or6 to 4 mark .

but that could look a big price after the race .i will time the first couple

of races to make sure the ground is not too fast .then i will bet.

wouldnt worry about him hanging a couple of times as that would have

been down to the fast ground he encountered . any thoughts lads.
By:
ben10
When: 14 Aug 09 09:57
Barry Hills seems to have found the perfect opportunity for him there, looks a poor race with a dodge pot the only opposition!
Some beautifully bred horses at Newbury today, Cultivar (brother to African Rose) and also Manhattan Fox in the 1:20. Won't back either though because the market suggests neither are ready but worth following if they show something today. I was at Ascot when Pounced was second and from memory he should have won that race, not bothering today though at the price.
In the 1:50 the money for the Meehan horse, Harvest Dancer is noted, his only seem to win first time out if they are backed although a bit of rain would be prefered I would have thought. The Godolphin horse Najd holds more appeal the way their two year olds are going this season, obviously got someone different training them this year by the looks of things. Don't fancy Spa's Dancer, think that needs further.
My big fancy for the day is Oasis Knight, should enjoy the step up in trip and the visor shows they are looking to win rather than get him fit.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 14 Aug 09 11:31
where does oasis run ben.
By:
ben10
When: 14 Aug 09 11:36
Newbury 2:55
By:
PHS
When: 14 Aug 09 14:35
Top stuff ben
By:
ben10
When: 14 Aug 09 15:05
Cheers mate, good day today.
Impressed with Cultivar, I'd expect it to win next time, both those maidens look useful though and the Hamdam owned horses along with Harevest Dancer all looked promising, good to see some exciting prospects coming out in the last week or so.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 14 Aug 09 22:04
great shout ben .

ground was way to fast for astaheer ended up backing other hamdan horse e/w .hope you won a few quid.
By:
Red Raider
When: 15 Aug 09 11:59
Would follow both those maidens some really nice looking horses in the paddock that will come on for the run - Esaar will certainly benefit from the experience some of those further back will also be nice horses in time.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 18 Aug 09 12:32
lots of good racing today to watch at york and thats what ill be doing

watching it the only bet i wll be having today is RAGDOLLIANA E/W

in the 8.10 at worcester best judged on her 2nd to rhinestone ruby 2

starts ago as she didnt handle the much softer ground last time.

although it looks like r.r. let the form down last time i dont think this

is the case as im pretty sure the ground was all against it then.

p.s 11/2 with hills is a bet to nothing imo. happy punting.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 18 Aug 09 21:48
i thought it looked the winner coming to the last and found nothing.
By:
abradburystar
When: 19 Aug 09 11:39
Unusual one for me today but I have been waiting for this horse.

Benny the Bear in the 1.55 Ham. Can't believe the price. Liked the dam and this small stable.

Also don't like the fav
By:
ben10
When: 19 Aug 09 11:45
Cheers Brad, I'll have a look in a bit. Any York fancies today, quite fancied Mo Mhuirnin in the 4:40, shaped like she should stay and her last race has been boosted well. Trainer likes a York winner as well.
By:
abradburystar
When: 19 Aug 09 11:48
No real views at York
By:
ben10
When: 19 Aug 09 12:03
Ok Brad. Just had a look at that maiden, Benny The Bear looks a great shout. He's very closely rated to The Bear who went on soft and he only has to improve around 5lbs from first time out to win this imv. The fact he was such a big price lto suggests he might. Looks a good sout and I'll probably have a little on.
By:
abradburystar
When: 19 Aug 09 12:13
Thanx for yr views Ben. The dam also won on heavy as a 2-y-o beating a useful horse in Bibury Flyer
By:
abradburystar
When: 19 Aug 09 13:00
Well stuffed - sorry about that
By:
ben10
When: 19 Aug 09 13:02
No need to apologise, never really got into it but still think it held claims on profile and was worth a bet.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 19 Aug 09 13:51
just in brad and seen your post the thing i noticed about benny the bear is the damsire being namaqualand . if you spit on the ground this lot dont go on it so i wouldnt give up on this horse yet if its one you
have been following.
on to york i like warringah today in the ebor .i also think the lay of the day is changingoftheguard i know it has won twice on good to firm
but i still think the ground could find it out here .
By:
PHS
When: 26 Aug 09 21:43
ttt
By:
ben10
When: 26 Aug 09 21:51
Funny you should bring this back up, The Bear won yesterday at about 7/2 (iirc) on soft ground. There's not been much interesting me since before York tbh, tomorrow looks pretty pathetic as well! 4 maidens and a Nursery at Newmarket on Friday could be interesting :)
By:
the lay preacher
When: 26 Aug 09 21:57
do you mean benny the bear ben.
By:
ben10
When: 26 Aug 09 22:00
No he's not raced since, it just made think of this thread when I saw it win because we had the family down as mud loving.
By:
the lay preacher
When: 26 Aug 09 22:02
youve lost me now.
By:
ben10
When: 26 Aug 09 22:25
Readin it, you didn't like Benny because of the dam sire but the other half is soft loving. The Bear's a half sister to Benny's dam and is trained by Linda Perratt.
What do you think about Changingoftheguard's Leger chances, I thought like you he could be better for a bit of cut?
By:
the lay preacher
When: 27 Aug 09 00:12
i think obrien will win the race ben he could have picked it up no bother

with fame and glory so he is not going to let it slip past him.

its straightforward for me changingoftheguard defo needs cut in the

ground imo and age of aquarius needs fast ground its between these 2

ill try and suss out what the ground looks like being in the lead up to

the race and back accordingly before j.murtagh picks his mount coz

whatever he picks will shorten greatly thats for sure.
By:
Adagio
When: 27 Aug 09 09:37
Excuse me for butting in, chaps. I often read through this forum where, remarkably enough for BF (!), the chat is well informed and sensible. I dont post here cos my knowledge about breeding is way behind most of yours.

OK, crawling over, on to the question I should like to ask....... :-)

One facet I am interested in is the record of Exceed and Excel on the AW. He has a good strike rate and almost half of his reach the first 4. I wonder if anyone can tell me about his record in more detail, ie between the tracks/surfaces. I would hazard that he does better on Polytrack than fibresand? Failing that, being pointed in the direction of some sites where I might access this sort of info would be a good start.

Thanks
By:
ben10
When: 27 Aug 09 10:17
Hey mate, All Weather's not really my thing so I can't really help you with regards to the different surfaces. Someone else on here should be able to, also Raceform Interactive covers stats like that I believe, although it's subscription, maybe put a call out on the main forum?
By:
abradburystar
When: 27 Aug 09 10:25
Adagio

My stats are for 2-y-o's only

Southwell : 2-6
Lingfield: 2-9
Wolves: 1-7
Kempton: 0-6 (but four placed)
Gt.Leighs: 2-8
By:
the lay preacher
When: 27 Aug 09 11:36
dont usually bet on a/w lads but i really like this 1 today

ADELE BLANC SEC 3.50 lingfield . nice 1st run at windsor but the

main thing about the race is i cant see rakaan as he is bred to want a

much softer surface than this and after a couple of runs on fast ground

i dont think he will fancy this. any thoughts.
By:
Red Raider
When: 27 Aug 09 11:53
Don't think he fancies any sort of race given his most recent performances, think you would be mad to back Rakaan although he certainly has the ability if he wants to put it in!
By:
abradburystar
When: 27 Aug 09 12:07
Lay Preacher

Not a Lover of Bahamian Bounty 2-y-o's at Lingfield (4-53) and with the rest of the field looking moderate except yr selection I agree with u.
By:
abradburystar
When: 27 Aug 09 14:56
WD lay preacher
By:
the lay preacher
When: 27 Aug 09 18:07
cheers brad.
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