Sams not going to last too long :(

You've forgot an "imo"

http://bb-cache.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2010/Aug/2/sam-is-stirring-up-the-house/play.c4

think most of the viewers will agree with these comments (imo)

Sam and Josie obviously know each other from the audition process so Sam knows she'll take what he says with good humour most of the time, but the way hes constantly questioning her and only her is bordering on bullying somebody just because he thinks he can get away with it. Its notable he hasn't been anything like this with any of the other HMs probably because he knows they wouldn't take it from him.

When he first came into the house i thought he'd be great for the show but after yesterday i don't think hes going to last too long. Hes pretty much guaranteed to be up once they can vote for him and now hes alienated himself from the JJJ fans.

Hes gone about things the wrong way by targetting Josie and i think the only effect it'll have is improve her chances of winning!

im not Josies biggest fan either but even most that have hated the whole JJJ thing accept their feelings for each other are real. You only had to see how Josie acted on Friday night to see how real those feelings are (from her side anyway). For Sam to say what he said after just 2days in their company is pretty insulting.

I think Dave spoke a lot of sense in the video i posted. I think Sams come in with the intention of stirring things up which is great but theres a differnce between that and just bullying one person. I think hes made a pretty big error in targetting Josie in the way he did and question her motives because i think even her harshest critic accepts she genuinly does like JJ.

It is fair enough og him though Dylan to ask the exact sort of question a lot of viewing want asking, ie, is this just a scam so you can get loads of magazine deals when you leave the house.
It's a valid question, and Josie has been seething ever since cos she knows he's totally called her and JJ's bluff.
I've seen on those threads just as many saying, 'Well done Sam. Keep winding them up. Josie can give it out but can't take it, what goes around, comes around' blah, blah, blah

is it fair enough of him to ask those questions though after being in the house for just 2 days? If you watched Josie on Friday night i think its pretty obvious that her feelings for JJ are real. Im sure they will do plenty of magazine interviews afterwards so what? but he suggested the only reason she was with JJ was to get money afterwards which is clearly rubbish if you've watched any of the show, and a pretty insulting thing to suggest after being in their company for such a short time.

Like i said in the first post of course there will be those that approve of what hes doing (those that don't like Josie and JJ) but imo the majority will side on the HMs they've been watching for the last 2 months over someone thats come in for a few days and thinks its his place to judge their feelings.

thought he might kill off Josies chances because there was the possibility of her losing her temper with him, but now after yesterday i think hes actually enhanced her chances. Even her biggest critic i think would accept she does have feelings for JJ so to suggest she only got with him so she could sell her story is pretty low especially considering hes only been there for a couple of days. Can see Josie getting sympathy from that.

Give it up Dylan...u've posted 5 times on this thread - and EVERY post repeats exactly the same thing...ok, we get it...u want to ramp JJJ. Good luck.

And as for...."For Sam to say what he said after just 2days in their company is pretty insulting."

Seriously! WFT?! at least he's had 2 days, what about all of us slating them on a daily basis.

And Sam hasn't 'gone about it in the wrong way'. He's gone about it in EXACTLY the right way. They've threw him in there to mix it up a bit and be annoying/argumentative, not to win. Obviously he'd love to win it but don't see it being very high on his agenda right now.

I think he's terrible news for JJJ, we need more of him questioning JJ1 though, it's JJ1's motivations that are the most wierd.

And we're at the stage where the producers don't need to save JJJ any more.

I'm sure many JJ fans hate Josie anyway

Even her biggest critic i think would accept she does have feelings for JJ

I don't believe either of them have romantic feelings for each other.
It's the most unconvincing romantic relationship I've seen in the house.
It's a relationship that they've both just fallen into, out of boredom...... and I do believe with one eye on the possible cash and interest it will generate.

i think their feelings are genuine in as much as feelings in that type of situation can be genuine. They mmight leave the house and feel differently but thats not the same as pretending to feel a certain way to make money out of it afterwards which is what Sam has said about Josie. You only had to watch Josie on Friday night to see how she feels.

I never used the word romantic by the way, because im not sure if they do have romantic feelings for each other but i do think its pretty clear that they have feelings for each other. Im not sure how Sam could come to his judgement after a couple of days and why he feels he needs to share that view.

I think hes played it wrong by targetting one HM and being pretty judgemental based on what? If he'd carried on the way he started he might have had a chance but by focussing on 1 HM it might come accross as bullying and inevitably the other HMs whove spent all that time with Josie are going to side with her.

What might happen is the HMs just choose to ignore Sam becuas they get fed up of him being overly personal with people hes just met which kind of defeats the purpose of him being in there.

Sam at 16.5 is an utter joke. His role is to rile, antagonize and offend. Depending on how the established HMs react to this, his actions may well affect which of them win or lose. But he can't possibly win it himself.

He shouldn't even have odds or be a runner. He's just a machine-like stooge put in by BB, designed to shake the real contenders up.

He shouldn't even have odds or be a runner.

That's a pretty extreme view for sure!
Not saying you're wrong either, but as he's listed among the under 20.0's it is an interesting view.

But he's different from Bea and Charlie in that he's not malicious, he remains upbeat and level-headed.

Hes much more self-aware and funny than Charlie but I think he is malicious.

what he said yesterday was quite nasty, the HMs are probably worried about whats happening on the outside and whatever hes said hes clearly watched a lot of the show so when he suggests that Josie might only be with JJ so she can sell her story that must make you pretty insecure as to how its being reported on the outside. I think he also said something to Dave about his family which Dave seemed pretty offended by.

He has the potential to be a great HM but i think hes played it wrong by being overly offensive instead of just dropping the odd bomb here and there.

He'll poll well in the favourites polls (particularly in places like DS)- there's no doubt there, but he'll do badly in a negative vote as well.

Sam is an utter twonk. End of Thread.

Furthermore JJ1 had no interest in giving the likes of Rachael 1 and Keeley a chance, yet has been arguing about giving Sam the benefit of the doubt all day.

wheteher JJ or J wins, we shall see. It is starting to become very stale I grant you. However though people may become bored of them, I don't think there is a massive resentment against them with the general public. (apart from on DS)