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Horses that ease (price) and win-Bots at work fact or fiction
Horses that ease (price) and win-Bots at work fact or fiction
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It exactly answers the question. How does it not?
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Thats a whole load of waffle ffs
If market is very close to accurate over long period of time as you say it is, how can someone beat it by over 20% over a long period of time? |
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The only place where it comes close is where you hypothesise someone getting 2.20 about 2.00 pops, hypothetical does not equal fact, surely you know that/
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Just because on the whole 2.00 favourites will average winning 1 every 2 races, doesn't mean that every single 2.00 selection has that chance of winning. Some may be closer to 1.20, while others may be closer to 50-1, etc etc etc.
Yawn.... |
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so one 2.00 pop should be 1.20 while another should be 50/1, now thats an accurate market ffs
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I accept that you CANNOT answer, so yawn away
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I accept that you cannot read. Ask away..
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I accept your lack of comprehension, am surprised by it, but accept it
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The last 957 horses with a WAP of between 2.00 and 3.00, have averaged 2.466494845360825
384 of those have won. 388 expected to win representing 99% return. I would say that is a pretty accurate depiction of the odds. Would you not? |
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Here is the same question for you.
Do you believe that those who claim a 20% advantage on turnover, have exactly a 20% advantage in every bet they place? |
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From 50% chance to 33% chance is big variance, and 957 wow thats a lifetimes data
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That question is 1 of the dumbest ever asked
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Which 1 market is that?
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What I said was Betfair on the whole averages true odds. To get that it combines all individual markets containing wrong prices.
Yet you are trying to argue with me that I am wrong because not every market is accurate. Seriously? |
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BJT • April 15, 2014 2:29 PM BST
It is a whole lot more accuate than you using 1 market. Which 1 market are you referring to? BJT • April 15, 2014 2:32 PM BST What I said was Betfair on the whole averages true odds. To get that it combines all individual markets containing wrong prices. Yet you are trying to argue with me that I am wrong because not every market is accurate. Seriously? I have said the majority of markets are not accurate |
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So what are you trying to dispute with me?
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I asked you a SIMPLE question, if markets over a long period of time are as accurate as you say, then how can some betfair users win more than 20% of turnover?
All you could do is give a hypothetical if someone was consistently getting 2.20 about 2.00 pops as your answer ffs |
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The answer is they are not betting on every market ffs and can recognise better which are overs and which are not.
FFS As per my answer..... |
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I said on average betting on every one will return you 100%.
Your question, was so how do people make 20%. I gave you a few examples. Your responded that I was ridiculous for suggesting that every market was therefore 100% return. To which I asked you if somebody returning 120% was therefore getting 20% advantage on every bet. Yes. It was a ridiculous question. Asked to you to prove a point about what it was you were trying to argue. |
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Is there anyone in the world betting on every market? Pleaseeeee
That answers fk all, easier to just say you don't know how the fk they do it |
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I do know how they do it. As per the answer.
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And there are plenty of people betting on every market.
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were to your last 2 posts not just 1 |
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spyvspy27 • April 15, 2014 9:42 AM BST
secong coming. • April 15, 2014 3:56 AM BST every market is dictated by the Zjelko bots.......ffs BJT • April 15, 2014 9:06 AM BST In what way? How do they operate? By their markets being more accurate than anyone else's You really shouldn't hand your log in details over tbh. No doubt you will catch up at some point what has been happening in your account..... |
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You respond to a suggestion saying that every market is dictated by a certain entity, and then saying nobody bets on every market.
You claim that they are very accurate and in control of the BF markets, yet BF markets aren't at all accurate. At least do some research on whoever was in your account before so you don't get made look a complete nutter.... |
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Guarantee I'm doing far better than you are, but now I fully understand why 2k was out of reach for you for a database
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I have a database thanks. Why would I want to spend more on another one off a guy that went busto?
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That wasn't exactly your answer, but it will do, all the best, maybe ZR should contact you and learn a thing or 2, you have got every angle covered
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BJT • April 15, 2014 2:52 PM BST
I have a database thanks. Why would I want to spend more on another one off a guy that went busto? I only hope you don't apply the same sort of logic to your punting |
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And congratulations on doing better than me. I fail to see the relevance.
Well done? Can we get a round of applause for the genius punter? |
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That was in reference to your complete nutter remark. And as flattered as I am to be called a genius punter, I assure you 1 doesn't have to be a genius to do better than you on the punt
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Once again. Congratulations. I am very happy for you.
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I wasn't begging BJT, I simply said someone had a database for sale and because you always talk the talk, I thought I would let you know it was on the market, where that makes me out to be a desperate pr1ck is beyond me, more of your logic I guess
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If you weren't, then why do you feel I was referring to you?
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In case you were, I was just clarifying that I wasn't is all.
Good luck BJT |