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By:
VeryLTU
When: 31 Jan 14 06:35
the master just pulls out whichever roll happens to be in his pocket at the time....... and just goes bannngggggg.. imo.
By:
value bet
When: 31 Jan 14 07:05
you blokes dead set crack me up !
staking plans are rubbish.!
when you have a GOOD THING......UNLOAD.!
otherwise, just bet carefully each way,
depending on your confidence........
It is FKG easy.
Now all GFKD.


STAROFTHEMAGI is right here fellas.

I have a mate that has put at least a million dollars through the pokies and yes is silly, but he holds no fear.

He just says he will earn his wages next week. I know it is the wrong attitude but he sure has balls.

I have sat and drank and watched him loose about $500k of that and if I had half the nerve he
has or should I say no fear of losing, I would be a multi millionaire backing my fitter horses.

No STAROF is right, are you in the punt for a long time, or short time?

Get your money, say once a month big time and spend it.

Bettting these percentages is for fuddy duddies.

If all your home work says this is the best thing this week/month, you unload on it and wait for the next one.

Have a go yah mug!
By:
starofthemagi
When: 31 Jan 14 20:43
see VB is a great judge.!!!
tho I must admit my rule usually
applies to horses of my own,
or something ive clocked.
backed 2 of mine on the 18th.
one was a cert on his work,
won easily, at 14s.
Got $28000 out of him, not huge
but very nice.
backed the other EW at 67s and 28s
fixed odds, btn half len. for  2nd.
and ran FKG 4th.
should just about win next Friday,or sun.,
wherever I start him. ( Wairu Bay).
All GFKD.
By:
Joel
When: 31 Jan 14 22:02
Where the hell is Wairu Bay
By:
Joel
When: 31 Jan 14 22:02
And do they have a Cup there?
By:
starofthemagi
When: 31 Jan 14 22:56
you FKG rabbit, that's his name.!!!!!
By:
wombleoz
When: 01 Feb 14 00:29
you're the best SOTM Happy
By:
BurningSpear
When: 01 Feb 14 10:24
Please boys let me know the next time you are on say 27 losers in a row I will go in Large I know for 100% certain I will back a winner at least once in the next three bets the maths proves it there's a decent sling in it for you blokes it's gunna be awesome I've never had a guaranteed win before!
By:
spyvspy27
When: 01 Feb 14 12:29
You sound like a maths wiz BS
By:
so you think
When: 01 Feb 14 20:20
gday es on     wairu bay  is where 4 horses went over the line within 2 lengths of each other    not exactly much of a form line       art of the cows    good horses win by good margins
By:
so you think
When: 01 Feb 14 20:36
on a more than severe note         the lower the benchmark the closer they finish together      the less chance any of them are going anywhere real quick     the first thought that should enter your 3 k zed    as they hit the line       it won by a margin     have to remember that                                                                                                                                  with limited grey matter   only room for    good horses names     that may at any time replicate  previuos performances                   look what ya started es on
By:
so you think
When: 14 Feb 14 08:01
back or lay goes tins to the top of the pops       art of the cows    not many left       any new ideas and don't say ida buttrose
By:
so you think
When: 14 Feb 14 08:22
high court                                                                                                                                     morality of gambling                                                                                                                              gambling transactations are rare, if not unique, species of economic activity in a civilised community,in that each partysets out openly to inflict harm on the countparty
By:
so you think
When: 14 Feb 14 08:25
counter party        could be something that the    cba is involved in   anyways you get my gist
By:
so you think
When: 14 Feb 14 08:28
there are 6 people viewing this forum
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 14 Feb 14 09:02
I reckon four of  them are psychologists . Wink
By:
spyvspy27
When: 14 Feb 14 11:10
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON • February 14, 2014 9:02 AM GMT
I reckon four of  them are psychologists .


Or seeing a psychologist
By:
spyvspy27
When: 14 Feb 14 11:32
When you see the invisible, you have mastered the art of punting on racehorses
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 14 Feb 14 11:57
Ahhhhhhh, we've come full circle.......to the truth. Cool

Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Spoon boy: There is no spoon.

Neo: There is no spoon?

Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
By:
spyvspy27
When: 14 Feb 14 12:01
And so it is with punting, the inflexible will never see the invisible
By:
VeryLTU
When: 15 Feb 14 01:21
did you stick to your staking plan when that twenty eighth mon.grel left the mounting yard judge ?? Wink..... i know i did Laugh
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Feb 14 04:36
You're a better man than me Mr LTU, I was on tiltsville, didn't know what fkn day it was, so to answer your question, NO Laugh
By:
VeryLTU
When: 15 Feb 14 04:54
Not a better man spy ..... i was more than enough decades younger and unaccustomed to emotional control ..... i had quinellas, trifectas, legs in the quaddy, any number of savers going. when the horse got home the relief was so great but i needed a few double scotches to settle down even more. It taught me something though........ to find out the cause of the long run. I've never had a serious bet at Moonee Valley ever since Wink...... and COMPLETELY SEPARATED all MV data from the other three tracks..... and later.... banned it completely.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 15 Feb 14 11:12
Just had a read through,,,,gawd we're a weird bunch. Silly

Still considering a Place strategy...and a Staking plan (other than if it's a good thing go hard Crazy Laugh
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Feb 14 11:26
Maybe you can see what others can't, can you see what i'm saying?  Laugh
By:
VeryLTU
When: 16 Feb 14 00:44
talking to my nephew last night..... the little b......d was the person who signed off on the planning for MV redevelopment. Surreal a great kid but ffs, tk god for lager and pale ales or the court could have been hearing a very complex psychological defence Crazy
By:
LOVE-JOY
When: 16 Feb 14 04:12
I can see what the mugs on this forum cant see. Winnings. Profits cash. you **** only see losing tickets and zero balances and sobbing and whaling
By:
spyvspy27
When: 16 Feb 14 04:16
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 16 Feb 14 04:39
Maybe you can see what others can't, can you see what i'm saying?

Ummmm....no Sad

Does it involve "dead people"?
By:
spyvspy27
When: 16 Feb 14 04:42
No, but when you can see the invisible, it can get spooky Laugh
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 16 Feb 14 05:32
Quite a few around 95 96 % Cool here from what we could see. Makes it tough. Fav htb, but......

interest on 7 and 9


gl
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 16 Feb 14 05:32
Blush
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 16 Feb 14 05:36
Maybe you can see what others can't, can you see what i'm saying?

Still no. Sad
By:
spyvspy27
When: 16 Feb 14 05:50
It won't happen overnight but it might happen, for the majority it never will happen because they don't even try and see what can't be seen, but if you look hard enough it will be seen. Hope that explains it
By:
starofthemagi
When: 16 Feb 14 05:53
have you got any you can spare mate, I need some ?
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 16 Feb 14 05:58
Laugh me too.

I'mm tippin it's Peyote. Plain
By:
spyvspy27
When: 16 Feb 14 06:03
Better, you don't throw your guts up on this stuff Laugh
By:
so you think
When: 28 Feb 14 23:34
why bet fair if you can avoid it ?         anyone walked thetrack today   or do we have to watch a couple first     art of the cows       bias beats most                              elite elle normally kicks off the turn  first try down the straight   small risk ?            backing alpha beat too long since I backed a 100/1 winner          you may laugh but he who laughs last laughs longer
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 01 Mar 14 00:30
I agree Plain not the worst 100/1 chance, So You Drink.

gl
By:
BJT
When: 01 Mar 14 07:45
The biggest trick to the punt, is to not close off your mind to the possibilities. 
I don't believe point 1 at all.  Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it isn't possible to do.  Sure the more you create an expertise about 1 particular thing you increase your chances, but just because you are making a bigger percentage than somebody else, doesn't mean they are losing.

A huge part of maximising returns, is ability to read the market.
Take a TAB punter for example, that is returning 105% POT.  He has managed to overcome a 17% takeout from the TAB and still make 5% on top.
He is better than the mob, by over 22%.  Now if he is able to get better prices by 5% on average, than he gets on the tote, then he DOUBLES his profit margin.  If he can get 10% better, he TRIPLES his profit margin.  The secret really isn't in the ability to pick winners at all but your ability to get the best price for your selections.

Are you in a position by doing 100 hours a week studying the horses in 1 race to have some sort of an advantage over the combination of a million hours of form study done for the same race that makes up the market?

We are dealing with a 100% market here.  Simple price chasing is all you really need to back winners to an extent that outweighs your betting turnover.
If you get a price 5% better than average on here, then long term you will win, provided

You have a sound money management technique.

The guy that gets 2.10 about a 2.00 chance with a sound money management technique, has a better chance than the guy getting 100-1 about that same 2.00 chance that goes all in every time.


The way I see it, is the hard work has already been done in being handed a 100% market.  If you have good money management, then any advantage you can get from whatever means, will add to your ability to make money.

The simple fact here, is if you have money management covered, and you are an excellent reader of the market, then you can simply pick a number out of a hat, in every race anywhere in the world, on any code, and you will make money long term.
Knowing you can do that, any extra knowledge on top of the number you have to back, can only improve your financial situation.

By closing off your mind that your way is the only way, and nobody else could be doing anything differently and still making money, leads to a stale approach.  If you don't have the ability to adapt and evolve your betting habits, then you stand the very big risk, that at some point everything you have ever done, will no longer work, and you have nowhere to turn because you have already trained your brain that you can't make money any other way.  Not only will it eventually send you broke, assuming that something changes, but the preceding success will cause the same mistakes over and over again.

Adapt, evolve, survive.
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