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a positvely negatively humerous thread is what it is phil & guys
and i look forward to making further contributions on the successes of the opposition ... and i am predicting labor could become, over the years, the most proficient opposition since the beazley-latham years i'm pretty positive about that i think maybe perhaps but who knows  |
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Secong he didn't announce the date until Bill was on the scene talking about it - no matter what the rules
i see another poll out today the same closer than the election 52-48 the honeymoon is over baby  |
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Abbott only the second PM in history to go backwards in the first polls after being elected.
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One Term TONY.
There's a 3 word slogan. |
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abbott keeps saying repent ..ffs you **** its not a church service
Does he realise he wasn't elected as God  you can take the Jesuit out of the boy...but..... um..  |
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lol womble who gives a flying about the polls with 35 months until next election lololololololol
35 months of solid governing and putting the country back on track after 6 years of failure look at the polls 12 months out then you will see the true picture |
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Thebas
Are you implying that this thread is negative? This government is positively a disgrace. I'm absolutely positive about that. I say we should positively vote this mob absolutely and positively out you will positively get your chance in 35 months time by which time the 46% of you will positively become 44% lololol, that I am positive of in the same manner as your positive statement above |
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addressed to PP that is.............
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secong ... good to see your positive post on this highly negative thread
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lol thebas
ho hum  |
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Looks like Greg Hunt is causing all sorts of confusion for business by insisting the carbon tax will be gone from 1 July - companies must work to the laws of the land. If any repeal of the tax hasn't passed parliament before that time companies must pay the carbon tax. He is creating sovereign risk imo
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wombleoz
Looks like Greg Hunt is causing all sorts of confusion for business by insisting the carbon tax will be gone from 1 July --- well that was the election promise made to the people of australia if they elected the Libs and threw out Labor only a Gillard type would backflip on their promise to the people and ... labor would best to understand that ... ie the electorate want gillard's useless for the environment co2 tax gone companies must work to the laws of the land. If any repeal of the tax hasn't passed parliament before that time companies must pay the carbon tax. --- absolutely correct womble .. the only money grubber refusing to pay up is clive palmer who is challenging gillard's useless tax in the high courts ... however, clive, despite your billions you don't deserve to be a politician if you don;t respect the laws of the land - pay up - and see what happens after your court case (the ATO have already slapped a $6 million 'late fee fine' on top of his tax bill for late payment  He is creating sovereign risk imo --- not sure what that means mate ? ....... but have the Libs become the REAL greens in our country ... where were brown/milne and gillard/rudd (lol) when the antarctic needed assistance ... missing in action imo http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/19429329/aust-pushes-for-antarctic-protected-areas/ A powerful bloc of nations, including Australia, the US and France, are ramping up pressure on Russia to support the establishment of marine protected areas in the Southern Ocean, the Ross Sea and east Antarctica. Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop and US Secretary of State John Kerry released a joint statement on Wednesday with their counterparts from New Zealand, France and the commissioner for Maritime Affairs and Fisheries of the European Union. .... come on milne .. fotget the fake for the environment co2 tax and support some REAL environment action |
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Labor and the Greens have to back their supporters wishes and block the removal of a price of pollution - they would be crucified if they didn't
I think Clive's big bill is why he wants it not only repealed but backdated as well - good luck with that. It will cost billions to just remove, would be billions more to pay it all back Sovereign risk is the phrase the Liberals threw around willy nilly for the last 6 years - traditionally it means governments creating risk by taking away certainty Real action costs money, the only question is who should pay |
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Three boats arrived this week...Major news of public interest but fascist Govt blocks from the press
morriscum tweeted ever time a boat arrived before the election.. Scott Morriscum pls PM Abbott pls...you said youse was gonna stop the boats..you must repent for this bullsh1t |
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it's a damn shame ... and i have no idea why this new govt doesn't get it right for their citizens
they should have at least set up a dedicated tv channel similar to tvn following all the illegal boat arrivals instead of making our citizens have to wait for the weekly reports all the legal citizens of our country could have a 24 hr tv broadcast of the boats coming in interested citizens could then plan their annual holidays around the peak season of boat arrivals and sit at home watching the dedicated channel the public service might be the most affected though ... with many excited employees unable to wait for their holidays and just sneeking in a sickie or two to watch the new Illegal Boat Arrival Channel why gillard didn't think of this in her final days is beyond me ... she could have sold advertising on the 24 hour a day Illegal Boat Arrival Channel which could have paid for some of the accomodation she arranged for the illegal asylum seekers once they had been deployed off shore by her in fact why gillard didn't take it one step further is beyond me ... but this clearly spelled the end of her reign of terror (when her own party dumped & discarded her) ... why didn't she just introduce A NEW TAX on ... illegal asylum boat seekers gillard already subscribes to the put a price on it and then all your problems are solved theory of economic govt[/b] (tho maybe get someone who could add up unlike her #2 man swanny would be best to handle the finacial details) an illegal asylum boat arrival tax was the answer to all gillard & labor woes ... how did gillard and labor not see this solution ... (as it was a solution they have used elsewhere to fix an important issue )it ain't rocket science julia ... make the illegals pay a tax ... and that will STOP THEM COMING (the gillard theory of How To Solve Real World Problems) not introducing a 24 hour a day tv channel for illegal asylum boat seeker arrivals ... that was your mistake julia .. just think you could still be PM now |
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i'm not that fussed about the weekly reporting of boat arrivals BUT i think we deserve to know more quickly when there are incidents and lives are put at risk, especially lives of Australia military or staff - e.g. there was apparently an incident on Manus Island this week - no details have been released - it's a disgrace
 Thebas - do you seriously believe an increased price doesn't change behaviour??? |
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Thebas - do you seriously believe an increased price doesn't change behaviour???
only for people who can't afford something a tax that differentiates between the rich and the poor is poor policy fancy driving your citizens back to 3rd world living by pricing something out of their range but not others when there is a major agreed problem ... ACTION should be taken .. NOT money should be taken and specifically ... re the co2 and the long con plan for the ETS (the real con) if those that see a problem think price will solve a problem ... then why would the money grubs (like al gore) be investing their money in a carbon trading firm and NOT a renewables firm ? what do they know that the tricked citizens dont ? the real plan can only be .. to burn more and more coal and emit more and more co2 ... the REAL plan else the informed money would be going into ... an alternative energy source (and one THAT currently exists) shame about the environment  |
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the regressive nature of the tax was addressed by the compensation paid to those at the lower end with some being over compensated
the price impact has been dramatically over stated by some - CPI barely moved a lot of people with some money have it because they are tight arsed penny pinchers - if they can save a dollar by turning off a few lights they'll do it - if the carbon tax encouraged that change it's a good thing imo what are your thoughts on the alternative Thebas - i.e. Direct Action here's what some from industry think http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/10/18/policy-politics/industry-says-direct-action-unrealistic |
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AIG just want a low set price ...
compensation means peoples bahvaiour wont be affected .. business as usual .. keep burning the coal the TRICK .. is the money the game players have planned to make and none of it has ONE thing to do with the environment  here's what the IPCC think http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/11/18/un-ipcc-official-we-redistribute-worlds-wealth-climate-policy First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole. |
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we'll probably never agree on this one - i want to see a price on pollution and think it will make a big difference in the years to come. i do accept the banks and some others just want a new revenue stream
good luck on the punt today |
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cheers mate have a good one
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First By-Election since the Election of the party full of liars.....
25% plus swing against the Libs. Lets see how much ticker Abbott has got and bring on the DD now. |
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since the Election of the party full of liars
but billy bob shorten got rid of her ? ... (and did everyone a favour thank goodness) |
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Climate change is cr ap.
Remember that. |
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climate has been changing since the history of the earth ?
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Tony Abbott on Whyalla and the Carbon Tax.
...Whyalla will be wiped off the map by Julia Gillard’s carbon tax. Whyalla risks becoming a ghost town, an economic wasteland, if this carbon tax goes ahead and that’s true not just of Whyalla, it’s also true of Port Pirie, it’s true of Gladstone, it’s true of communities in the Hunter Valley and the Illawarra in New South Wales, it’s true of Kwinana in Western Australia, it’s true of the LaTrobe Valley, Portland, places like that in Victoria. There’s not a state and there’s hardly a region in this country that wouldn’t have major communities devastated by a carbon tax if this goes ahead... Source: Tony Abbott - Liberal Party website - April 27, 2011 Count the lies from the greatest liar ever in Aus Politics. |
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Sky News Interview with Tony Abbott July 29, 2009
I also think that if you want to put a price on carbon, why not just do it with a simple tax? Why not ask motorists to pay more, why not ask electricity consumers to pay more[/b] and then at the end of the year you can take your invoices to the tax office and get a rebate of the carbon tax you've paid. He was either lying then or he's lying now Either way he can't be believed on anything he says.  |
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very sad what is happening in whyalla for sure ... lets hope the mining gets going again there
i can't say it was the carbon tax at all ... but then no one could gillard was going to sue anybody who said it was ffs talk about freedom of speech http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/huge-jobs-blow-as-1-billion-whyalla-mineral-processing-plant-scrapped/story-e6frfkp9-1226625701363 WHYALLA residents will be resilient in the face of another blow to its economy after Arafura's decision to scrap plans for a $1 billion minerals processing plant, its mayor says. It's another major blow for the region following BHP Billiton's decision to defer its Olympic Dam expansion and the decision by Deepak Fertilisers to withdraw plans for an ammonia nitrate processing complex - all worth billions and with major economic spin-offs. |
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What happened to the Budget Emergency the Liberal Party lied about.?
Why is Hockey increasing the debt limit? When they went to the election screaming about Labor's debt, and how many millions a day we were paying back. Why is he increasing this debt? Because they are a party of LIARS. |
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25% swing against the LIBS
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Why is Hockey increasing the debt limit?
you better ask wayne swan about that i live in swan's electorate swan sent us all a taxpayer funded pamphlet .. telling us the deficit days were behind us lies ... lies ... and more lies = labor |
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27% - biggest swing ever
State by-election but surely federal issues played some part as well |
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dear oh dear
rort oh rort still these mugs would believe in climate change if it was a thing that could be privatised..it's not,it cant, so they won't. disgrace  |
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still these mugs would believe in climate change if it was a thing that could be privatised..it's not,it cant, so they won't.
climate change is very real ... why not do seomething then ... if those that hold the cards believe it is ONLY co2 (and the latest ipcc 5 year in the making document is not as clear cut from the scientists viewpoint as the propoganda machine behind it wishes to portray - you only have to look at their own graphs to see that) then why not STOP the co2 and move to currently available alternatives it is the Money Making out of the co2 that is the grimy trick behind the scammers & the rorters just like horse racing .. follow where the money is going and you see it clearly .. the money is NOT going away from co2 it is going into the Trading Of The Offsets ... liars, rorters and money grubs shame about the environment which should be the #1 priority |
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question for today - Is Tony Abbott the PM or a volunteer firefighter??? Should he be both???
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my sincere congratulations womble ... mate you have started, hopefully, phil's wish for a positive tone to this negative titled thread
 your ........ question for today - Is Tony Abbott the PM or a volunteer firefighter??? Should he be both??? ... was in the right spirit ... however, if the question was ...... should he be either ... would have taken as being negative imho have a great day pal |
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The answer to that question is simple. He should be a volunteer firefighter because he's a sh1t prime minister.
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Or if you'd prefer a more positive message ...
For a Prime Minister, Tony Abbott makes a fkn brilliant volunteer firefighter. |
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2things..Abbott wasnt fighting a fire,it was a safe backburn,just a look at me photo op..
The united firefighters of aus say its time to act on global warning....umm .. Adam Bandt is just grandstanding on Climate Change & Bushfires whereas Tony only took 16 photographers to film him drive a truck .. Lastly...Morriscum ...again pls Disgrace... IMO |