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Breaking: Abbott is making Barnaby Joyce the minister for weddings
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and i like her hair too joel
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How the One-eyed forget..
![]() ![]() ![]() How the taxpayer helped Tony Abbott flog Battlelines 28 JULY 2010 Tony Abbott probably knows where his first dollar came from. His preoccupation with how much money is coming through the door is legend in Canberra amongst his colleagues. Indeed the first thing to come out of Abbott's mouth at the outset of the leaders' debate concerned his personal finances."This election is about a fair go for families struggling with the cost of living pressures," Abbott declared. "My wife Margie and I know what it's like to raise a family, to wrestle with a big mortgage, with grocery bills and school fees." Immediately after John Howard's 2007 election loss Abbott dubbed the period a "grieving" phase. But Abbott was lamenting more than just the fact that the Liberals had ceded power to Kevin Rudd. He mused publicly on the shock of losing his ministerial salary, complaining he didn't know how he was going to pay the bills. Bills of the type that might be incurred in a national book tour for example. Department of finance documents raise the serious and politically damaging possibility that Abbott used taxpayer money to promote his 2009 book, Battlelines. The revelation follows an investigation by The Drum in which the dates of Abbott's national book promotion tour have been matched to his travel expenses claims. The dates of his promotional tour were provided by his publisher, Melbourne University Press. Abbott's home base is Sydney where Sarah Murdoch launched Battlelines on Tuesday, July 28. Two days later, the then-Opposition frontbencher flew to Canberra, to quote MUP,"address the National Press Club (NPC) to discuss Battlelines". There was also a book signing coinciding with the event. According to the department of finance report detailing entitlements paid to MPs and senators from July 1 to December 31 2009 and tabled in the Parliament on the eve of the election, on July 30, the day of the NPC address, Abbott billed taxpayers $504.29 for the round trip flight back to Sydney. On August 3 Abbott was in Melbourne for a Dymocks bookstore "Dinner Event" held at George's Restaurant in Camberwell. Abbott billed the return flight to Melbourne on the same date to taxpayers. Cost: $930.95. On August 6 Abbott was in Melbourne again for a "Liberal Party Book Club Event". Again he booked the cost to the taxpayer, flying back to Sydney the next day; $465.47 each way. Then it was on to Brisbane on August 11 to promote Battlelines in an appearance at the Brisbane Institute. Total cost of the round trip, including a stopover in Canberra on August 12; $861.95. Then came Perth on August 14 and 15. This time it was an event co-sponsored by The West Australian newspaper and Dymocks. According to the department of finance figures the total round trip cost was $2,461.23. The total for all Abbott's travel that coincided with promotional events for the book comes to $5,689.36. That's a sizeable chunk of Abbott's total air travel costs of $29,633.85 for the same period. Then of course there's the cost of the Commonwealth cars and drivers that he also billed to taxpayers on the days he was promoting Battlelines. That final tally: $962.60. All in all the taxpayer coughed up $6,651.96 in Battlelines-related travel. At the very least these expenses are politically awkward. Was he also doing government business in the places where he promoted his book? Even if he was, is it appropriate to plug your book while you're there when taxpayers are paying the travel bill? Remember the savage gusto with which the Opposition, Abbott included, went after Kevin Rudd and former defence minister Joel Fitzgibbon over claims they had not properly declared privately sponsored air fares to China. A spokesman for[b] Tony Abbott dismissed the allegations as a smear campaign. "All travel undertaken by Mr Abbott has been within the entitlement. This is a blatant attempt by Labor to smear and mislead."[b] But this time, Tony, it's your turn to provide some answers. .............................................................. So it wasn't even a mistake.....he actually thought we should pay for his book tour......and attacked anyone that said otherwise. So why did he pay this back. |
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Defending the undefendable..... and attacking those that disagree
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Documents released to The Australian under Freedom of Information laws yesterday show that Ms Gillard made the payment on March 9, 2007, as deputy leader of the opposition because of concern over a breach of rules forbidding the use of the car for commercial purposes.
The documents were provided yesterday after a 10-month battle by the former prime minister and her office to prevent the Department of Finance from following through on its decision to release the material. .... well that Abbott person could have fought long & hard for 10 months i guess ... just to keep it HUSH HUSH ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Remember the savage gusto with which the Opposition, Abbott included, went after Kevin Rudd and former defence minister Joel Fitzgibbon over claims they had not properly declared privately sponsored air fares to China.
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INSIDERS
Broadcast: 04/09/2005 Edited Extract…….(Bracketed comments added) Abbott admits to insensitive Brogden comments Federal Health Minister Tony Abbott has offered to apologise( But he didn't) for making inappropriate comments about former New South Wales Opposition leader John Brogden, in the hours after his apparent suicide attempt. BARRIE CASSIDY: I mentioned David Clarke - as I understand it you addressed a meeting of the Kenthurst branch of the Liberal Party on Wednesday night and you said this, "Whenever you hear that David Clarke is doing bad things, you know he is really doing a great job." TONY ABBOTT: Yes, I do go to the Kenthurst branch and that sounds like something I might have said. BARRIE CASSIDY: Beyond that, I'm told that you praised David Clarke, but not a word of praise for John Brogden who had only resigned 24 hours previously? TONY ABBOTT: Well, I praised John Brogden in public that very day. Everyone feels very sorry for John Brogden. He did what he shouldn't have done, [At a function for the NSW Hotels Association, Brogden was heard to describe Bob Carr's Malaysian-born wife Helena as `a mail order bride', and further, was seen to `pinch a female journalist on the bottom' and speak to another inappropriately.]………. but having done the dishonourable thing he did the honourable thing (Resigned) and subsequent events are just tragic. That's what I said during the week and I'm happy to say it again now. BARRIE CASSIDY: Keeping in mind that that speech at the Kenthurst branch was 24 hours after John Brogden had attempted to take his on life, did you begin your remarks by saying, "I just want to make it clear I have never told an inappropriate joke, I've never pinched a woman on the backside and I never make inappropriate gestures to women"? (So whilst making an inappropriate joke…… Abbott tells his audience that he has never made an inappropriate joke…. And he never makes inappropriate gestures to women. Apparently a former Female Student Political adversary would disagree with the inappropriate gestures toward women bit.) TONY ABBOTT: The point is that I made a speech to the Kenthurst branch of the Liberal Party and the guts of that speech was to say, look, we need to move on from the trauma and tragedy of the last couple of days. And one of the points that I made was that Barry O'Farrell had shown the kinds of gifts of character that we need to see more of in the State party if it's to flourish. (So it’s about O’Farrells character not Abbott’s.) BARRIE CASSIDY: Did you make those characters and do you think that's a way that a Health Minister in particular ought to behave? Do you think you lacked a bit of sensitivity there? TONY ABBOTT: Well Barrie, look, I have never claimed to be the world's most sensitive person. BARRIE CASSIDY: Well, let's go back to lunchtime on the same day. Now this is just 12 hours after John Brogden was rushed off to hospital.(After a Suicide attempt) You're now a guest speaker at another function and I'm told you were asked about a particular health proposal and you said this, "If we did that we would be as dead as the former Liberal leader's political prospects." (John Brogden’s) Did you say that? TONY ABBOTT: Look Barrie, I was at a fundraising gathering. It was a very small gathering. And I was no doubt commenting on a particular political proposal. BARRIE CASSIDY: But inappropriately surely, and particularly as Health Minister? (OR Alternative PRIME MINISTER) TONY ABBOTT: Well, Barrie look, as I said, if you want to accuse me of insensitivity, by all means. I have never claimed to be the world's most sensitive person. BARRIE CASSIDY: In retrospect do you think that's something you should now apologise for? TONY ABBOTT: Barrie, if it would make people feel better if I apologised, I'm always happy to apologise. I don't believe in standing on my dignity. BARRIE CASSIDY: But you do accept they were inappropriate? TONY ABBOTT: Barrie, lots of people say lots of things. (That'd be a no.) Our Prime Minister. |
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Seriously,who gives a fckk? I mean,come on? Abbott and Brogden 2005 at Kenthurst? Life's too short for this bollocks.
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Ohh poor Tony is being attacked.
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you couldn't script this stuff - Abbott claims expenses to attend Slipper's wedding. Liberals behind Slipper being dragged through the courts for dodgy expenses claims
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womble one could ask the same of the previous govt, whats the rush with a carbon tax that denied the electorate to vote on yet passed and since voted against, whats the rush for gonski (had to be done to a deadline)the failed media prohibition legislation and on it went
afl funny stuff all the old postings regarding your good mate tony, lets keep on topic here , if you have anything to add (current govt affairs) to this joke of a thread made before govt was even sworn in then post it you know thebas and/or myself could dig here there and everywhere and find lots of dirt on the labor party but whats the point? just keep it to the thread title which i'm sure you wont find any problems in the first few weeks since taking office, in fact its all been positive ah well only 9 more years before you guys will get even a sniff ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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rush to a carbon tax??? you can't be serious - both parties went to the 2007 election promising an ETS - we should've had one in place by 2009 at the latest
are you happy with Abbott rushing to sign free trade agreements and the TPP Secong??? Why the big rush??? Speaking of rushing, why haven't we got a date for parliament to resume yet??? Why is he delaying it's return??? do you think it's acceptable to claim expenses for attending private weddings??? have the boats stopped yet??? "all been positive" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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why haven't we got a date for parliament to resume yet???
i think the coalition are just doing the ... right thing ... ![]() and ... waiting until this amazing / bizarre / protracted ... PRESENDENTIAL STYLE ... labor campaign to elect their new leader (the 3rd in 4 years lol) is over its ... 1 albanese 2 shorten i mean how hard is it for the labor voters to conduct this leadership ballot ![]() |
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it's all over on Sunday - Labor will have chosen the next PM
![]() I think the real reason they are delaying is that the PBO has to release all the policy costing requests within 30 days of the caretaker period ending - so in the next week or so. Should make VERY interesting reading Anyways, gotta get to work while I still have a job Have a great day ![]() |
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Tony Abbott’s dodgy Pollie Pedal expense claims
independentaustraliadotnet Posted by davrosz in Community, Politics on 8 June, 2013 2:38 pm Tony Abbott is, by the standards of most Australians, a very wealthy man ― so why does he claim taxpayers’ money for doing volunteer charity work? LIKE MOST POLITICIANS, Tony Abbott receives a pretty decent wage. How decent? Well, according to this 2012 article, Tony Abbott now earns (Pre- PM)an annual salary of $352,517. To break that down, that’s $29,376.42 per month or $6,760.60 a week.* Tony Abbott also receives income from other sources, although it’s not clear exactly how much he receives in additional income. What is clear is that, according to the Parliamentarians Register of Pecuniary Interests, he also receives income from “casual journalism and media consulting” as well as royalties from his book Battlelines. And as Tony Abbott reminded us all in his Budget Reply Speech, his wife Margie also works: Margie runs a community-based occasional care centre which has to live within its means just like every small business and every family. I don’t know how much Margie earns, and quite frankly, it’s not really any of my business. However, it would be safe to make the assumption that the combined income in the Abbott household would be at least $400,000 per year ― and most likely more than that. Like most politicians, Tony Abbott is also able to claim significant expenses that are paid for by the taxpayers of Australia. What surprised me, however, is that Tony Abbott continues to claim expenses for his “charity” work, such as the Pollie Pedal. For those of you who don’t know, the Pollie Pedal is an annual cycling event that a number of politicians (State and Federal) take part in to raise funds for charities. Tony Abbott was one of those responsible for starting Pollie Pedal which has gone on to raise around $2.5 million for charities. That is certainly a commendable effort. What isn’t so commendable is the fact that Tony Abbott (and possibly other politicians) claim expenses from the taxpayers of Australia for this charity work. For the 2010 Pollie Pedal, Tony Abbott claimed $1,439.00 in expenses. For the 2011 Pollie Pedal, Tony Abbott claimed $3,657.00 in expenses. For the 2012 Pollie Pedal, Tony Abbott claimed $3,141.00 in expenses. That’s a total of $8,237.00 in expenses ― and it doesn’t include Tony Abbott’s extremely high salary. The expenses covering the 2013 Pollie Pedal are yet to be released, however, taxpayers will once again pick up those expenses as well, no doubt. Tony Abbott’s charity work is commendable, given that the Pollie Pedal event is to raise funds for charity, one really needs to question why Tony Abbott claimed expenses for the charity ride ― his charity ride. For someone who claims that Governments must live within their means, Tony Abbott apparently has no problem taking taxpayers money for doing what for most people would be unpaid volunteer charity work. * Editor’s note: Abbott’s monthly salary figure is simply the the yearly amount divided by 12, while the weekly is the yearly divided by 365 then multiplied by 7. (This story was originally published on phonytonyabbott.com and has been republished with permission. For more on Abbott’s rather cavalier attitude towards his expenses, read Benjamin Jones’ recent exposé: ‘If Slipper is guilty — then what about Abbott?’) Creative Commons Licence This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Australia License |
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there will be NO CARBON TAX UNDER ANY GOVERNMENT I LEAD ring a bell?
it was pitched to the voters who then voted in good faith with that statement ringing in their ears. womble the electorate by and large are not like you and I , they don't give a flying about govt just listen to the statements of the day ie: Gillard ,and make a decision the voters trust was abused in the name of POWER , she was always going to rush through a carbon tax even if labor had a majority parliament, the greens were just the patsy , YOU know as well as I do that the GREENS would NEVER ever had gone with Tony even if THEY themselves said WE will have a carbon tax and LABOR said no ,its just not the watermelons way to support conservatives anyways govt going along just fine ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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agrees with SC....labour getting into bed with the greens were the start of all the broken promises.
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were the start of all the broken promises
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cheers Megsy at least some people on here with common sense
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lol Thebas
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Abbott claimed travel costs to get a free ride in Coffs Harbour
Brad Greenshields 17th Aug 2013 Opposition Leader Tony Abbott claimed $1,150.99 in travel expenses to participate in the 2012 Coffs Coast Cycle Challenge alongside Cowper MP Luke Hartsuyker. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott claimed $1,150.99 in travel expenses to participate in the 2012 Coffs Coast Cycle Challenge alongside Cowper MP Luke Hartsuyker. TAXPAYERS footed a bill of $1150 when Tony Abbott participated in the 2012 Coffs Coast Cycle Challenge. Official documents from the Department of Finance show the Opposition Leader claimed $349 in travel expenses for his one-night stay in Coffs Harbour as well as $653.24 in airfares and a further $148.75 for the use of Commonwealth vehicles. Further research shows Mr Abbott also claimed expenses to participate in other events last year - namely the Pier to Pub swim in Lorne, the Hervey Bay Surf Lifesaving Pier to Pub swim and Wagga Wagga's Lake to Lagoon fun run - at a total cost of $5510.88. So are such activities official business or pleasure? The general rule of thumb is Mr Abbott simply has to say he's doing something for a community group and it can be argued he is performing official business. Mr Abbott rode alongside Cowper MP Luke Hartsuyker in Coffs Harbour as well as other members of the federal parliamentary cycling group called Riders on the Hill Coffs City Rotary's Peter Wardman said the service club issued about 400 invitations to state and federal politicians to ride in the event, but he believed Mr Abbott was participating in response to an invitation from Mr Hartsuyker. This is supported by a press release from Mr Hartsuyker's office, issued on July 26 last year, that indicated the MP "invited Mr Abbott to be part of the cycle challenge and the Coalition leader's office had today indicated that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, he will be a starter". "As far as we (Coffs City Rotary) were concerned he (Mr Abbott) was a private citizen," Mr Wardman said. Mr Wardman said he understood Mr Abbott attended a function the night before the Cycle Challenge. He also confirmed Mr Abbott did not attend the post-challenge presentations. A spokesman from Mr Hartsuyker's office told The Advocate Mr Abbott attended two functions on the Saturday night - a drinks function at Coffs Harbour Golf Club and a dinner at C.ex Coffs. "The main reason he came to Coffs was to participate in the cycle challenge," the spokesman said. The Department of Finance told the Advocate it requires all MPs and senators to "personally certify that their use of entitlements are for the purposes for which they are provided, generally parliamentary, electorate and official business". The department also "relies heavily upon self-assessment by parliamentarians for assurance that Commonwealth resources are used only within the terms of the relevant entitlement". It was recently revealed Mr Abbott had to repay more than $9000 in travel expenses he racked up while promoting his book, Battlelines, in 2009. |
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Hours after demanding an investigation into Coalition travel expenses, Labor frontbencher Mark Dreyfus has admitted to billing taxpayers for a ski trip to Perisher.
The shadow attorney-general said he will repay $466 for two nights' accommodation he claimed in August 2011, on the weekend between two parliamentary sitting weeks, after incorrectly claiming travel expenses. Labor so full of sh!t! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Now Abbott's been forced to apologize to Malaysia for he and the Liberal Party insulting them.
Probably only because he couldn't run away at APEC like he does when an interview gets too tough here. Plus he insulted the whole conference because he was late to a meeting and they had to start without him. What an embarrassment to our country this dikhead is. ![]() |
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AFL your hatred of our PM is unbelievable. Why dont you take yourself to another country for at least the next 3 years.
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Where's Barnaby ....can't the Nat's promote him early...... and he take over.
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I don't hate him or anyone else.
He gave plenty in opposition, he despises Unions and is seeking to destroy them. So fcuk him. |
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You obviously hate him. Why abuse him by calling our elected PM a dikhead.
Election campaign is over!! He was elected to run this country for next 3 years. Get over it!!! |
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I don't hate him. Please stop telling me I do.
![]() How did Abbott react to losing the previous Election.? Did he respect the Labor Gov't and get over it, during the following 3 years? I don't think so. |
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This thread was started as a joke and with every whinge and moan and cut & paste it is just being perpetuated.
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Has anyone floated the idea of a HECS style repayments scheme for Tony Abbott's swimming, cycling and ironman career
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cant be too harsh tho,anyone who went to Mirabella's wedding is worthy of payment
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Scrub Barnaby from the list of possible PM to take over from Abbott
Barnaby Joyce’s Pilliga pillage Posted by admin in NSW, Politics on 8 October, 2013 11:32 am independentaustraliadotnet Did Barnaby Joyce buy two barren blocks of land in NSW between 2006 and 2008 because of the massive CSG deposits now known to be lying beneath, asks John Rainford. THE LAND around Gwabegar, in north-western NSW, is not known for its fertile soil. Locals call it “mongrel” or “heartbreak” country. Fairfax Media quoted a farmer from nearby saying: “This is scalded country. It could not support the number of animals that would be needed to make a return on investment.” If the Pilliga scrub is not much good for farming, why did Barnaby Joyce, the National Party Senator now standing for the seat of New England, and his wife Natalie pay $572,000 for two blocks of land there in the space of 18 months between 2006 and 2008? Following the first purchase, Joyce told The Age in 2006 that he was going to experiment with wheat farming. From Heath Aston’s August 25 report in the Sydney Morning Herald: A story in The Age in July 2006 quotes the new senator as saying he was attempting to grow wheat and barley at his new weekend retreat. ”Is it a wheat district? It is now,” he joked. ”It looks a lot like grass, and apparently if you leave it long enough you can harvest it.” The experiment does not seem to have come to much as the land is now up for sale. What it might be worth remains to be seen, but there is something underground in the Pilliga that could turn a decent profit while destroying it — coal seam gas (CSG). Mining company Eastern Star Gas spent $50 million between 2001 and 2005 exploring the Pilliga. By this time, the company was feeding into the NSW northern electricity grid through its Wilga Park CSG-fired power station in Narrabri. In its 2007 statement to the Australian Securities Exchange, the company said it had conducted one of the largest fracking programs in Australia, drilling nine wells that fractured the coal seam to access the gas. Joyce’s property is inside the Petroleum Exploration Licence areas that Eastern Star owned. John Anderson (image via Courier-Mail) In late 2011, Eastern Star Gas was bought by giant gas company Santos for a reported $739 million. John Anderson, former deputy prime minister and leader of the Nationals, was appointed chairman of Eastern Star Gas in 2007 — while still sitting as an MP. Anderson is a close friend of Joyce and was his campaign manager in New England for the September Federal election. Despite their long friendship and the fact that Joyce’s second land purchase occurred after Anderson had become chairman of Eastern Star Gas, Joyce says he had “no knowledge at all” that the Pilliga would be at the forefront of CSG exploration. The Pilliga is Australia’s largest inland forest — a wilderness with more than half a million hectares of cypress pine. Campaign group Stop Pilliga Coal Seam Gas has been battling to save this spot of rare beauty and wonder. If Joyce becomes part of a Coalition cabinet, that makes life easier for CSG miners. Stop Pilliga CSG activists will be among the many in the New England electorate keen to know just why Joyce bought the Gwabegar property. As one local said: “It is a strange buy, put it that way.” This story was originally published by Green Left Weekly |
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petty cash compared to the (NSW) Labor / Unions money machinations
![]() and i would vote for Anthony in the soon to be upcoming Presidential Style Labor Leader Election ... for this reason Meanwhile Federal Labor leadership hopeful Anthony Albanese told Macquarie Radio that if he was offered a $3 million bribe he would report it to police. some honesty is needed in the labor machine and anthony might well be the man to bring it ------- http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/19299522/unions-nsw-dragged-into-robertson-fray/ NSW Opposition Leader John Robertson has drawn his old union into the fray as he continues to swat away criticisms over his failure to report a multi-million-dollar bribe attempt. The Labor leader has been under attack since revealing he rejected a $3 million sweetener offered to him by murdered debt collector Michael McGurk to sell him a Unions NSW holiday property called Currawong, in Sydney's north, for $30 million. At the time of the offer Mr Robertson was head of Unions NSW. NSW Greens MP John Kaye said Mr Robertson has failed to comprehend why it was important to report such matters. "In the context of what has happened in the last decade in the Labor party, his failure to report the offer is actually a mark against his standing as a political leader," he told AAP. Meanwhile Federal Labor leadership hopeful Anthony Albanese told Macquarie Radio that if he was offered a $3 million bribe he would report it to police. -------- big labor big unions big money ... and only some of it honest maybe ![]() |
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Yes I have changed my mind and I hope Albo gets up.
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Kye:
AFL your hatred of our PM is unbelievable. Why dont you take yourself to another country for at least the next 3 years. The hypocrisy of you bastards defies belief. Why didn't you fk off somewhere when Julia was PM? Instead you hung around here for three years whingeing blue murder at every opportunity. Well, suck it up, sister. Tony Abbott is the worst prime minister this country has ever had. He's a ****, he's a liar, and he's got big ears. Fk him. He deserves no respect and he's not going to get any. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() J U N K t h e M O N K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() P. S. This is a BAD government |
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very classy PP , a great addition to the forum you have been
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Secong - she should've gone straight to an ETS faster - not forgetting business wanted a fixed price period to get things started. Either way, pricing carbon is the right approach
Abbott winning friends and influencing people ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/vladimir-putin-gives-late-tony-abbott-cold-shoulder-at-apec-20131008-2v61f.html He can't run away there so rocks up late instead - ffs you are representing our country Abbott, get it right!!! |
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Unbelievable !
4 weeks in office and this bozo has already started a new Cold War ... just like the 1950s. What a BAD BAD BAD BAD government ! The BADDEST government we've ever had. |
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ets is just a bankers benefit - swapping money (for a fee of course) in the name of an invisible substance that controls climate change to the tune of 0.000000000000000000000000000000001%
climate change is the reason for our existence , imagine living in the ice age again? |
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business wanted a fixed price period
business ONLY wanted certainty womble ... that's all they ever want .. it allows them to balance the books and price products for consumers so that business can take place julia/greesns .. $16 a tonne, $21 a tonne, $40 a tonne, india 4c a tonne, EU down to $6 a tonne .. is crazy the EU ETS carbon tax plan sucked 800 billion euro out of the economy ... and was RANK failure carbon was burnt in higher levels than ever before pricing is a PROVEN failure abbott very impressive ... asia on board ... gillard's mess over there expunged ... things going very well for australia ![]() |