Lance Armstrong gives up fighting

Don't remember him.What position did he play?

Why give up if you are innocent ? Will end up being stripped of his 7 Tour titles.

At some point you have to let go and just live your life don't you Castiron? The Tour titles aside, the man faced death and came through the other side, I think he understands life is very precious and doesn't want to spend any more of what's left of his life on this. Good for him I say.

Surely he's guilty??

Hasn't failed a drug test yet? Plenty others have.

I'd love to be as "Hung" as he is guilty.

the knob would be dragging on the ground.

Joel

I failed a drug test once.

have made it my life work , for it never to happen again


BONG ON BROTHER!!

Why do you think he's guilty Barney? They've hounded him for a decade so far, surely it would've come out by now.

Rhino, I would love to think you are correct, but it doesn't make sense, for someone who is such a fighter, to just cave in.

I don't see it as caving in mate. Asked and answered over and over again from his perspective, he will always know who crossed the line first and quite frankly has better things to do than to play this out on repeat until the end of his days.

Agree with rhino what's the point people will believe what they want to believe, he should enjoy his retirement and his monumental feats will long live in my memory.

Yes, but they will strip him of his Tour titles.

They probably will take them yes. But at the end of the day, they can never take those moments away and that is what it's all about really.

Rubbish. In twenty years time, he will be remembered in a similar manner to Ben Johnson. History will treat him as a drug cheat, regardless.

In all the tours he won,all the top 5 behind him,have since tested positive,in all 7.. most of these Lycra  clad ****s are higher than joe cocker.. Imo

which brings us to the point
Why watch the sport?

it is simply a matter of who cheats best

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They probably will take them yes. But at the end of the day, they can never take those moments away and that is what it's all about really.


gotta agree here, if I played for Melb Storm, i could care less about losing the prmierships,

have the ring, have the memories, but in this case it was an accounting error, not really cheating IMHO

"There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough'. For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today - finished with this nonsense....

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It's an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It's just not right.

"Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly 500 million US dollars. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission.

Damn straight.

Rhino

The bottom line is, he didn't want to face a Grand Jury.

Look what happened to Marion Jones. Six months in the big house for telling porkies.

You just can't fukk with those fukkers.

Agree to disagree Castiron. Fact is though there is no way for you to know what the bottom line is for a man you have never met. Pure conjecture on your part that last statement.

the blokes as guilty as sin, they have been chasing him for 10years because everyone in the game knows his guilty. He has trained in countries where dope testing is not enforcable for around 10years. his team pratically invented IPO and blood storing...........won't be surprised and i'm just puttin this out there,....that he faked the big C

So he had one of his testicles removed for a bit of fun 

good way to mask testing for a couple of years

People the guy put his money where mouth is a long time ago, unlike his detractors, and has done a lot of good and it's funny how all the agitators are convicted cheats.

that should read put his money where his mouth is.

I'll be really disappointed if I find out he's got 2 balls

Drugs cheat. End of.

Maggot's forum name is self explanatory for the quality of this person's character

Lance was a cheat...so much evidence from so many different ex team mates
flo-jo never failed a test..do you think she was clean?

Thinking he's a drug cheat is one thing, I'm fine with people taking that stance, but logroller to suggest he faked cancer, not cool buddy.

I love the sport as a spectator and participant.  I think he's a doper.  His Livestrong foundation has done wonderful things, but of the $500m he claims to have raised, I wonder how much went to sustaining Livestrong and Lance Inc?  (I say this as a cancer survivor).

I'm not a fan of the bloke, but mine's just one opinion in a billion.

Lets , a lot of people who do bad things also do many good things.
Life isn't a T.V  show with pristine heroes and evil villains. There's good and bad in all of us

Armstrong’s TdF Victories

Just sayin…


1999
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Alex Zülle (‘98 busted for EPO)
3. Fernando Escartín (Systematic team doping exposed in ‘04)
4. Laurent Dufaux (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Ángel Casero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2000
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Christophe Moraue (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Roberto Heras (‘05 busted for EPO)


2001
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Andrei Kivilev
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2002
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Raimondas Rumšas (Suspended in ‘03 for doping)
4. Santiago Botero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2003
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
4. Tyler Hamilton (Suspended ‘04 for blood doping)
5. Haimar Zubeldia


2004
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Andreas Kloden (Named in doping case in ‘08)
3. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
4. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Jose Azevedo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2005
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
3. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Fransico Mancebo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)

cheers ted ... nice to see it in print ... lance was a legend regardless ... in a sport of some question

... i also see they will have difficulty choosing who would get the 'stripped' medals ... if that is the course they take

... 2003 appears the only year the rest of the placegetters were without tarnish themselves

so Lance was that good that he was beating every one that was on drugs for 7 years...............yeahhhhhhhhh  righttttttt

lance will go down as the greatest of all time.he would have murdered any previous or subsequent tour winner

Sometimes the lie is so big, that the truth can never be faced.

If he is innocent he has my sympathy. But if he has lived a lie, then oh what a wretched life he must endure.

World cycling is a disgrace.

Have defended Lance for years but it's getting very hard now, almost at the point of conceding. Still holding out the tiniest bit of hope he is innocent, the greatest sports story of them all looks like being a lie. Hard to take

People will still pay $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to see him.
Sells plenty of papers
Drugs or no Drugs done plenty of Good things.
Will be remembered the Best ever and more Books to come.

The Other Lance got Stripped of an Inter and nothing happened to Him. Im still at Shock how that was swept under the Carpet

who would possiblely want to see him or have any thing to do with him............he is the biggest drug cheat in sporting history, and also dragged anyone around him into his sordid clandestine world, a germ and should be locked up of a long time for fraud against the public and earning millions of dollars under proceeds of crime

nothing more than a peddler imo

pretty good dos

Cons: Cheated at a sport that everyone cheats at
Pros: Raised millions to fight cancer and inspirational for many

I think if I'm guarding the Pearly Gates to Heaven, I probably still let him in. World has gone mad.

Wold has gone mad?

Yes, I cant see what all the fuss about exposing the biggest drug cheat in the history of sport.

I'm talking about the rage and hatred that people are expressing. I simply think it is completely out of proportion.

Winker he raised about $500 mil, a lot of cash for a great cause. As for the inspirational bit, that is the most upsetting part of all as there are a hell of a lot of shattered people out there now. I have never really held sports stars that high, I've had plenty of favourites sure but never looked up to them or idolised them, he was an exception. He was worth looking up to and telling your kids about... Very sad it's all a lie and even sadder that with everything I'm hearing, he is actually a vile man by the sounds of it.

Bad people do good things and good people do bad things....it's what humans do

Nike has dropped Lance Armstrong  'due to insomountable evidence' he 'participated in doping ' and misled Nike for more than a decade..
He also has stepped down as CEO of his charity..

Goooooone.......

Cheat..

Gonna need soap on a rope...

If anybody gets a Chance watch Eddie Mcgauire Interview with Ben Johnston.
What Ben Johnston say about Drugs and what all the Sponsors did to Cover up all the other athletes is the reason Nike become so big world wide.
Its a brilliant Interview

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced.

That was the line that stood out to me.

Not "I never cheated", or "I never took performance enhancing drugs", just "I found a loophole in the system and got you on a technicality".

As for the ridiculous comment somewhere previous to this post that went something like "the people that are accusing him are all drug cheats", I think that actually adds to the case more than not. 
I mean, if people could not be convicted because the people putting them in it were taking drugs themselves, then there would be nobody in jail right now for drug use except the small timers.  These people have a lot more to gain by staying out of the spotlight than remind everybody of who they are. 
Straight athletes would have no idea what Lance was doing, or it would this would have been over years ago.

one should ask sheryl crow what she knows....
i'd imagine he'd be like patrick bateman from american psycho behind closed doors .

I'll add to this in my view , isn't him overcoming cancer then taking these drugs infact make him an even field.

If he had ridden after just gotten over cancer (not taken any drugs) wouldn't he in someway be at a disadvantage ?

with the tole on the body cancer takes,

So he never rides again after overcoming cancer is there anyone that was riding that had overcome cancer?

we all seem to be forgetting he had cancer ? and the treatments that come with that ,

if anything the drugs would simply make him even with the playing field maybe not years after , but i'll give him his first wins even if he did take some sort of performance enhance

wont give him the last ones years down the track though.

I'll give him his first couple of wins performance enhancing or not.

Based on that?  So you are an expert in the field and can confidently tell everybody that any performance enhancing drugs he took were dosed to 100% make him as he would have been?

Maybe the guys he beat had colds and merely took all their drugs to level the playing field?

What generally needs to be looked at in these situations is who gains what by this?  Does anybody?  Only thing is that a high percentage of the population becomes a little dulled and loses a little faith in humanity.  Which to be fair, is a goal in many people in power.  But if this were the case, they would have simply doctored the results and given it a conclusion, certainly not dragged it out for this long trying to find proof.

Based on that?  So you are an expert in the field and can confidently tell everybody that any performance enhancing drugs he took were dosed to 100% make him as he would have been?

Maybe the guys he beat had colds and merely took all their drugs to level the playing field?

What generally needs to be looked at in these situations is who gains what by this?  Does anybody?  Only thing is that a high percentage of the population becomes a little dulled and loses a little faith in humanity.  Which to be fair, is a goal in many people in power.  But if this were the case, they would have simply doctored the results and given it a conclusion, certainly not dragged it out for this long trying to find proof.

Hey BJT , I am quite competent in this field actually

radiation therapy actually is to destroy protein cells which cancer cells latch on to
so this is muscle development

its breaking the protien latch which cancer loves so much and latches onto to grow ,

so we are talking about limited muscle growth no matter how much he worked out a year even after his theorpy if you or i wer to do weights next to him he would be at a disadvantage

as the point of chemo is to block the protein cells, growing the cancer

given it was in his lower half his legs ect, so it is absoultly an even field the first few wins

his body limited to intake protien from next person and still won

i wouldn't call myself an expert BJT but chemo blocks protein

as i said he deserves his first win without a doubt

that is why people go so thin on chemo because the protien cells are killed and carbs go into orverdive burning all the fat

he deserves more than this , as i said i'm quite happy to take drugs to win his first wins

maybe not those years after he should have stopped years after

infact its quite amazing he could not gain any muscle mass but still win such a groling contest

i guess we might see more of this from home & around the world now ...


http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/15161874/cycling-australia-vice-president-admits-to-doping-resigns/


Cycling Australia's vice-president Stephen Hodge has resigned from the board after revealing he took performance enhancing drugs.

In a letter to the board, Hodge admitted taking the drugs during one stage of his career.

The Canberra cyclist represented Australia and was regarded as one of the country's leading riders during the 1980s and the early 1990s before retiring in 1996.

He completed the Tour de France six times and represented Australia at 10 World Championships, as well as the 1986 Edinburgh Commonwealth Games and the 1996 Atlanta Olympics.

Hodge had been CA vice-president for the last five years and had been on CA's board since 1999 as the chairman of the Athletes Commission.

Wonder if the fallout will affect other sports as well? Surely it ain't just cycling with such widespread doping issues.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/zone-lance-armstrong-bully-downfall-article-1.1188512?localLinksEnabled=false

wanna read this tomorrow,too tired tonight,easy to find here..

1/ gawn
2/gone
3/gorn
4/gawn
5/gone
6/gorn
7/GORN



Cheat...

Confirmed he has been stripped of his 7 Tour titles.

I finished 497th in his 3rd one...I reckon i might be the last man standing

Just shows it is possible to be charitable and courageous but also a fkn lying manipulative cheat

that could apply to many on the Forbes Rich List.......imo

Sorry

here's hoping the cnt spends some time in a 10 x 10 dark room for a few years, big chance IMO

He'd be looking to 4 years at least.