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therhino
24 Aug 12 12:05
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Good for you Lance. I too, would tell them all to go feck themselves and their mothers. Been badgering the man for over 10 years and even in retirement they won't give up. No athlete in history has been drug tested as many times as him and they got nothing but bought testimony from very questionable 'teammates'

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By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 24 Aug 12 12:07
Don't remember him.What position did he play?
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 12:12
Why give up if you are innocent ? Will end up being stripped of his 7 Tour titles.
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 12:16
At some point you have to let go and just live your life don't you Castiron? The Tour titles aside, the man faced death and came through the other side, I think he understands life is very precious and doesn't want to spend any more of what's left of his life on this. Good for him I say.
By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 24 Aug 12 12:22
Surely he's guilty??
By:
Joel
When: 24 Aug 12 12:23
Hasn't failed a drug test yet? Plenty others have.
By:
Barney The Bot Slayer
When: 24 Aug 12 12:24
I'd love to be as "Hung" as he is guilty.

the knob would be dragging on the ground.
By:
Barney The Bot Slayer
When: 24 Aug 12 12:25
Joel

I failed a drug test once.

have made it my life work , for it never to happen again


BONG ON BROTHER!!
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 12:26
Why do you think he's guilty Barney? They've hounded him for a decade so far, surely it would've come out by now.
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 12:29
Rhino, I would love to think you are correct, but it doesn't make sense, for someone who is such a fighter, to just cave in.
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 12:36
I don't see it as caving in mate. Asked and answered over and over again from his perspective, he will always know who crossed the line first and quite frankly has better things to do than to play this out on repeat until the end of his days.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 24 Aug 12 12:38
Agree with rhino what's the point people will believe what they want to believe, he should enjoy his retirement and his monumental feats will long live in my memory.
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 12:39
Yes, but they will strip him of his Tour titles.
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 12:42
They probably will take them yes. But at the end of the day, they can never take those moments away and that is what it's all about really.
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 12:45
Rubbish. In twenty years time, he will be remembered in a similar manner to Ben Johnson. History will treat him as a drug cheat, regardless.
By:
bigted.
When: 24 Aug 12 12:48
In all the tours he won,all the top 5 behind him,have since tested positive,in all 7.. most of these Lycra  clad ****s are higher than joe cocker.. Imo
By:
Barney The Bot Slayer
When: 24 Aug 12 12:51
which brings us to the point
Why watch the sport?

it is simply a matter of who cheats best
By:
Barney The Bot Slayer
When: 24 Aug 12 12:53
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They probably will take them yes. But at the end of the day, they can never take those moments away and that is what it's all about really.


gotta agree here, if I played for Melb Storm, i could care less about losing the prmierships,

have the ring, have the memories, but in this case it was an accounting error, not really cheating IMHO
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 12:54
"There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough'. For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today - finished with this nonsense....

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It's an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It's just not right.

"Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly 500 million US dollars. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission.
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 12:55
Damn straight.
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 12:59
Rhino

The bottom line is, he didn't want to face a Grand Jury.

Look what happened to Marion Jones. Six months in the big house for telling porkies.

You just can't fukk with those fukkers.
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 13:05
Agree to disagree Castiron. Fact is though there is no way for you to know what the bottom line is for a man you have never met. Pure conjecture on your part that last statement.
By:
logroller
When: 24 Aug 12 13:31
the blokes as guilty as sin, they have been chasing him for 10years because everyone in the game knows his guilty. He has trained in countries where dope testing is not enforcable for around 10years. his team pratically invented IPO and blood storing...........won't be surprised and i'm just puttin this out there,....that he faked the big C
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 13:33
So he had one of his testicles removed for a bit of fun  Laugh
By:
logroller
When: 24 Aug 12 13:36
good way to mask testing for a couple of years
By:
Castiron
When: 24 Aug 12 13:37
Cool
By:
Lets Elope
When: 24 Aug 12 14:27
People the guy put his money where mouth is a long time ago, unlike his detractors, and has done a lot of good and it's funny how all the agitators are convicted cheats.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 24 Aug 12 14:28
that should read put his money where his mouth is.
By:
bigted.
When: 24 Aug 12 14:34
I'll be really disappointed if I find out he's got 2 balls Sad
By:
maggot
When: 24 Aug 12 15:15
Drugs cheat. End of.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 24 Aug 12 15:17
Maggot's forum name is self explanatory for the quality of this person's character
By:
sofiakenny
When: 24 Aug 12 16:14
Lance was a cheat...so much evidence from so many different ex team mates
flo-jo never failed a test..do you think she was clean?
By:
therhino
When: 24 Aug 12 20:23
Thinking he's a drug cheat is one thing, I'm fine with people taking that stance, but logroller to suggest he faked cancer, not cool buddy.
By:
GoVoGo
When: 24 Aug 12 23:56
I love the sport as a spectator and participant.  I think he's a doper.  His Livestrong foundation has done wonderful things, but of the $500m he claims to have raised, I wonder how much went to sustaining Livestrong and Lance Inc?  (I say this as a cancer survivor).

I'm not a fan of the bloke, but mine's just one opinion in a billion.
By:
whoopi
When: 25 Aug 12 00:58
Lets , a lot of people who do bad things also do many good things.
Life isn't a T.V  show with pristine heroes and evil villains. There's good and bad in all of us
By:
bigted.
When: 25 Aug 12 01:05
Armstrong’s TdF Victories

Just sayin…


1999
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Alex Zülle (‘98 busted for EPO)
3. Fernando Escartín (Systematic team doping exposed in ‘04)
4. Laurent Dufaux (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Ángel Casero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2000
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Christophe Moraue (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Roberto Heras (‘05 busted for EPO)


2001
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Andrei Kivilev
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2002
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Raimondas Rumšas (Suspended in ‘03 for doping)
4. Santiago Botero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2003
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
4. Tyler Hamilton (Suspended ‘04 for blood doping)
5. Haimar Zubeldia


2004
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Andreas Kloden (Named in doping case in ‘08)
3. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
4. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Jose Azevedo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)


2005
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
3. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Fransico Mancebo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
By:
Thebas
When: 25 Aug 12 01:10
cheers ted ... nice to see it in print ... lance was a legend regardless ... in a sport of some question

... i also see they will have difficulty choosing who would get the 'stripped' medals ... if that is the course they take

... 2003 appears the only year the rest of the placegetters were without tarnish themselves
By:
logroller
When: 25 Aug 12 14:05
so Lance was that good that he was beating every one that was on drugs for 7 years...............yeahhhhhhhhh  righttttttt
By:
Gomozkov
When: 27 Aug 12 21:06
lance will go down as the greatest of all time.he would have murdered any previous or subsequent tour winner
By:
Koala Chaos
When: 28 Aug 12 06:53
Sometimes the lie is so big, that the truth can never be faced.

If he is innocent he has my sympathy. But if he has lived a lie, then oh what a wretched life he must endure.
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