Champion Profits

lol... must be great seminars, i see all the clients come down to the cas floor ready to profit on the roulette wheels.. and they're all wearing their free betfair caps and clutching a free copy of betfair for dummies ..

The issue with Geeks Toy goes a bit further than not revealing his P/L.  It is more about how he advertises himself as the best trader on BF, states that he makes 400 dollars an hour trading sports, but has never backed it up.  He spams ebooks, has at least 5 different websites trying to sell subscription services, and really is dishonest in every sense of the word.  He is a typical show recordings of his winning trades, keep all the losing ones from public viewing sort of marketer.  He was challenged for a predetermined set of races, to prove his worth as a trader, to which he accepted then chose to apparantly take the day off after the fact because he obviously didn't have a good day.  He was then challenged to show his P/L to prove he makes what he says, to which he was offered thousands of dollars in donations to charity, plus free advertising space on Geeks Toy forums for his product.  He also turned that down.

Whilst working for BF (or being subcontracted or whatever) doing their advanced trading seminars, he was asked why use Betfair Evolution (Racing Traders newest product), to which he replied "I have no financial interest in this product, I have spoken to the owners and they allow me free use of the product throughout the year and customers of mine a discount on the product".  Of course the reality is Adam Todd sold the rights to the program to a lady with the peculiar surname "Hargraves" who just so happened to have the same first name as his wife.  Hmmmm.
Not to mention Centaur trading or whatever they were that he was one of the main traders for, went bust, and by all reports took off with all their customers money.

As for Woody Woodpecker, I really haven't had many dealings with him apart from spotting him in disguise talking about how good these seminars were that those 2 blokes were running.  Think he went by the name "Swallow", except the keen eye of the Geek himself managed to compare the woody woodpecker avatar he used, and the woody woodpecker picture on the mans own website advertising his direct involvement and partnership with badger.

They were even advertising on these seminars that by going would turn you profitable.  Using BF to guarantee becoming a successful punter/trader by going on their courses as they are the best going around.  400 an hour he claims he makes, yet the proof is in the pudding.  7 months in, and a combined 31 units down, betting 1-2 units per stake.

Ridiculous marketers such as these 2 need to be stopped.  Charging 100 a month for a losing system.  And obviously people are getting sucked into it, BF themselves were sucked in at one point, on the back of the Centaur collapse ffs.

Filthy I didn't accept the offer from BF for a free seminar with them.  Would have been a cracker of a day.

How these people are allowed to operate is beyond me.

Well as I said, I haven't had many dealings with him.  But as the saying goes, you sleep with dogs, you get fleas.  And regardless of who he was previously, he is now a partnership, and until they come up with a stronger flea removal product, those fleas aren't going anywhere.
The question needs to be asked why somebody showing a 10 unit profit on NRL would team up with somebody costing him 40 units in that same period, what his goals are, and his decision making processes.


Do you actually have anything to back that up Craig, or is he another that believes you show enough aftertiming, and profit only statements and people won't realise the losses you make? 
Real question there, not at all leading.

* as in he said he didn't have a r'ship but I thought no, that's not right..

Uhhh     19 Jul 12 07:48  19 Jul 12 04:45
Joined:Anyone that is selling tips is not a winning punter end of story.

i agree!

i have been to one seminar at paddington rsl about a year ago.
i dont have an issue with them both. the badger definately has a presence about him. if he scammed money off others, well thats obviously different, but putting on seminars/webinars/appearing on the punters show etc.... i welcome it.

ive been trading for a few years now and its hard work.
if it was easy he would of made heaps out of other peoples money let alone his own.
if he keeps away from the dark side & makes his business transparent.... well, goog luck to him.

BJT - mainly from watching his you tube previews - he doesn't do many anymore but his knowledge and opinion of the players even the ones starting out is usually spot on

Steve Kearney could have done with listening to him as he has never been a fan of Chris Sandow or Ben Roberts - guys that Kearney based his year around this year

just my view

were you saying overall the year to date return was down for Champion Profits but they were ahead on the Rugby League component?

thanks Josh - i guess that further backs up Scott

Oh, and another thing, Champion profits will always do well on NRL. Scott is a gun at that and has tons of inside info. Not sure about anything else though.

I think the Badger must be a good trader, i saw this on Youtube and it looked pretty impressive to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr4vaNnQG4k

I agree with other posts, Scott apparently has an intimate knowledge of rugby league and is considered one of the best judges on Rugby league, although i personally do not bet on rugby league.

As for the other issues mentioned on this thread i have no knowledge about them.

I don't fall into these youtube vids where posters brag about how much they won in an in-play scenario.. why? well it's real simple, a genuine person would post up their losing trades as well, all his are all about the perfect trade where he won a big pile of cash

I use to think he was the real deal until he felt the necessity to sell off an e-book labelled "Easy Trader Pro 2", basically it just has well known trading strategies that will result in a profitable situation more times then not, not worth the cash to be honest. Any joe could figure out these strategies for themself.

I actually think highly of ChampionPicks their form analysis on horse racing is generally very good, I don't pay the fee however as it is an outrageous amount of money and quite a big risk but I do get emails from them every now and then and I certainly do read what is written

Uhhh • July 21, 2012 12:35 PM BST
Why would Scott need to sell tips if he wins?


possibly ego?

i don't understand what you mean - you very negative fella?

277 posts i haven't read you say one positive thing

maybe i've missed the positive ones

crazyone is it Dr Bob on the NFL

uhhh
dont judge everybody else on what you do

your opinion uhhh and thanks for taking the time to write it

Seriously, ed?

9 years*