Sportsbet and Iasbet are basically the same thing anyway so it makes sense

After thinking about it they're providing a valuable service.  They analyse your punting and only keep you if they're 99.9% sure you're a long term loser.

So anyone still with them after 6 months should give up punting forever.  You're officially a mug.

All the others that they boot have some hope, and you should take it as a compliment.

Seems simple.

and what on course bookie will set us on afl,nrl,s15s cricket?????

youknowit
09 Mar 12 10:09 Joined: 13 Feb 09 | Topic/replies: 4 | Blogger: youknowit's blog
Instead of complaining about the corporates (personally I was banned 10 years ago and never went back) why not start a relationship with an on course bookie. Before anyone says they are not big enough or wont bet you etc etc think back before the corporates ruined the oncourse market by sucking everyone away from oncourse. I was able to get set in one bet with one bookie to win $100k - no questions asked. When there is money on course the bookies will bet bigger AND the raceclubs become more profitable to provide a better racing product.


Wow - that could be the best/smartest post I've ever read on here! Several Sydney bookies will bet you big (sports too)
And you have the luxury of talking/negotiating with the decision maker! seems good to me.
A bookie at Newcaslte yesty bet $750 e/w Al Dafra 17.0 - not a bad provincial bet....

What gets me with these companies, is you ring them up to get on something, they knock you back, or take a pissy bet, then wind the odds out.  Is my money at lower odds not better than anybody elses money at inflated odds?  Wind the odds out to get more money on that investment, so why not just take it in the first ****ing place.

Seriously, I could run a better bookmaking facility than most of them running a laptop and a spreadsheet.

Election coming up.  Have to be some votes for the guy that introduces legislation that makes the online bookies have the same rules as on course bookies with who they have to bet to and the minimum liability they have to accept.

But anybody that has been barred from IAS on the gallops, check out their harness meetings fixed odds betting.  Can load up on them for 5 minutes before they realise that the odds they are offering are 10 minutes old.  Might only get a week or so out of it, but ****, hurt them good, they will close you down anyway, so why not.

Haven't read many of the previous posts but...
One day I literally jagged a couple of EX, and QN with these guys, they paid something like 4K, I only had the account opened for 2 weeks, I was able to withdraw 10K.
No problems, and haven't had had email to say that they would restrict my bets.

Sportsbet and IAS are not basically the same thing, they ARE the same thing. The servers are now linked so there is no time lag between price updates on either site and all the prices are identical. This happened around the time Paddy took them over.

melbourne punter, if that on course license turns over 200million plus, and its EBITDA is around 4.5million per year then i think they would look at it

Think im cast if thats the case loggy!

is that centerbet Aust??

seems very tropical. they are all vagabonds

agree .....keep these threads at the top....too name and shame these parasites
sportsbet
iasbet
both named and shamed for their truely un australian bookmaking tactic's

So, as posted before, add your experiences on

http://www.bookiesreviewed.com.au/

don't just limit them to the Betfair forumites.

No I'm not involved with the site just think it's a great idea.

Onya Knackers. Great analogy - they're a business.....really??? Thanks for the scoop.

Please tell me any other business that's allowed to discriminate against people in such fashion?

Where's the difference between this and a cafe owner who refuses to serve a sandwich to say an Indian because they don't like the look of them.

IT'S DELIBERATE DIRECT DISCRIMINATION, JUST IN A DIFFERENT FORM.

Refusing to supply consumers
In general, businesses may decide for themselves with whom they wish to deal. The Competition and Consumer Act 2010 does not give anyone an absolute right to be supplied, whatever the circumstances. There is no automatic right to be supplied and there is no obligation on a business to justify its decision to refuse supply.

However, there are a limited set of circumstances where refusing to sell goods to a customer can be illegal.

When is refusing to deal with a customer illegal?
There are only a few circumstances that make a refusal to deal illegal under the Competition and Consumer Act. Generally, these situations only arise where your refusal to sell goods or services to someone is done for an anti-competitive reason. As stated above, these circumstances are generally limited to business-to-business transactions and are generally unlikely to occur in normal retail selling.

Sometimes refusal to deal is prohibited outright, other times it is subject to a competition test.

Where to find further information
For more information on refusal to deal, refer to the ACCC's Refusal to Deal guide.

Doesnt look a clear issue to me. Might be another for High Court if someone has the dough.

Boycotts
Primary boycotts: agreements that contain
an exclusionary provision (s. 45 (2))
Agreements between two or more competitors
to refuse to deal, or limit dealings with another
supplier or particular customer, or a class of
competitor or customer, are known as primary
boycotts. They are illegal.

if two or more competitors collude to ban one customer then i reckon that would be illegal

Fair point Whoopi - maybe a Primary Boycott would have been a better way to put it! IAS AND Sportsbet ban you = Primary Boycott!!

Kye are you a lawyer during by day? If not perhaps you should be. Very good info. I'll include it in my letters and see what comes of it. Thanks

following might also apply to mickeyh & others

Accepting payment without
intending to supply (s. 58)
It is a breach of s. 58 of the Act to accept
payment where there is no intention to supply.
Section 58 falls in Part V of the Act. It is not subject
to the competition test and the penalties and
remedies are those that apply to Part V.

Knackers I'm not sure I understand all of your post but the line 'we are running a business, not a charity' is a very common one heard from the corps.

What is their business?  It's providing gambling services.  They say 'this is what we are offering' and I say 'sure, I would like to use that'.

Except IAS / Sportsbet is the only business I've ever encountered that refuses to accept my custom.  They're saying - Our business is providing a service, but you seem to know what you're doing so we won't provide it to you.

It's equivalent to me refusing to let overweight people into my all-you-can-eat buffet, or a casino that won't allow anybody in who isn't drunk.

What other business claim to provide a service to everyone but actually only do so for incompetents?  I don't know of any.

Is it unAustralian?  Surely it is.

Lest we forget