i've always denied the alarmism AFL 


but do you still agree with the alarmism ?

and if so ... what are your thoughts on obama congratulating the chinese for saying they ...

"haven't peaked their greenhouse emissions yet and it would likely be 15 to 16 years before they hit their peak greenhouse gas emission output level"

is that a good thing for the planet ... while australia has reduced our emissions over the past 2 years by 2.2%   ?
(according to womble's article)

and nothing will convince me about the climate unless the earth tilts ....no doubt BJT has a theory on that one

all those years everyone swept up leaves and set little fires on a sunday in the gutter now banned, or the back yard incinerator banned...I wonder how many other countries do the same?...not many im guessing

that alone should have a high percentage of reduced greenhouse gases

?

afl

alarmism

Among the experts who debunked the latest White House report:

former chair of the EPA Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee Dr. George Wolff
former director of the National Hurricane Center Dr. Neil Frank,
Colorado State University Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Science Dr. William M. Gray,
IPCC expert reviewer and University of Missouri professor of Atmospheric Science Dr. Anthony R. Lupo,
retired Environment Canada scientist and IPCC expert reviewer Dr. Madhav Khandekar

In their report trashing the latest federal alarmism, the experts noted that over the last 130 years, the 1930s still had the most high-temperature records — with a stunning 70 percent of current state record highs set prior to 1940.

Meanwhile, the last 50 years have seen more record lows than record highs, they noted.

The latest White House alarmism, the coalition added, even stands in contrast to Obama’s “usual allies” in promoting extreme climate hysteria, with the UN and the National Academy of Sciences both “dialing back apocalyptic claims.”


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this from a Prez who oversees his country where enormous jets of methane in a sector of the USA are pumping out the equivalent VOLUME of methane into the atmosphere as that produced by the whole of australia every year

of course CH4 methane (depending on who you believe) has a greenhouse effect of between 30 and 80 times that of co2

so the equivalent of 30+ australia's around the world each year dumping greenhouse

yet the Prez says Oz should do more and then appauds china for saying they are STILL INCRESING  their greenhouse output till they will peak it in about 15 years

... alarmism and trickery .. and of the course the fake-for-the-environment ETS where sovereign wealth is handed over

yeah ... leave me out of those tricks for sure

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/methane-leak-rate-proves-key-to-climate-change-goals/

and greenpeace on the methane problem

In late September 2013, the IPCC reported that methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas than had been previously assumed.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/science/Natural-Gas-and-Global-Warming/


... funny eh .. no mention of that in the left wing online rags ... maybe you can find one from your (non) independent "journos"

yet the claim for an ETS on coal based co2 pushes on and on ... though china & india are not 'coughing up' (pun)

maybe australia shouldn't either .. till the full facts are explored and understood

If reducing CO2 emissions is the objective, then connecting wind power to the current electricity grid is having the opposite effect.

http://stopthesethings.com/2014/09/07/why-intermittent-wind-power-increases-co2-emissions-in-the-electricity-sector/

Methane is definitely and issue Megsy - especially on here with plenty of old farts not recognising the issue

It's not only the fake pollution taxes we need to worry about its the slow erosion of citizens rights and the attack on our privacy courtesy of various false flag staged terror attacks around the world

no problem with any of that womble and when they build i'll be more than happy to pay for it, just the same as the new woolies has opened up down the road paid for by the company to capture earnings from my pocket ... bring it on!

ok all you greg hunts..the numbers are in..

The 10 hottest years in known history now in order are 2015, 2014, 2010, 2005, 1998, 2013, 2003, 2002, 2006 and 2009.

nothing to see here tho..carry on,happy new year

been a lovely mild summer so far in Brisbane

all are welcome 


now interesting that you used those particular years Ted


bigted
The 10 hottest years in known history now in order are 2015, 2014, 2010, 2005, 1998, 2013, 2003, 2002, 2006 and 2009.


2009 of course being the year that the official US temp monitoring facility NOAA (who have about 33% of all the global weather stations in the whole of the whole fkn whole planet lol).   

but of course the USA ... being so important as a global leader in peace ... as well as climate ... should have a third of all the monitoring stations in the world under their control

but I digress ... 2009 .. where it now became the hottest of the hot hot hot years ... EVER  ... was

pretty much the SAME year that the US monitoring group NOAA should introduce their ... USHCN Version 2 algorithms

had to guess ... because we need computer algorithms to tell us what the weather is like now .. compared say to 1913 ... when they didn't have algorithms ... just someone reading a simple thermometer I guess


https://www.oig.doc.gov/OIGPublications/STL-19846.pdf   page 3


USHCN Version 2 Was Created to Correct Data Quality Issues

NOAA researchers created the USHCN Version 2 algorithms, which were implemented in 2009, to adjust climate data for several different factors.

Mainly, Version 2 was intended to compensate for undocumented changes that were not addressed by its predecessor, USHCN Version 1.

Version 1 had several issues that caused inconsistencies in climate data, such as undocumented changes in climate stations.

These inconsistencies led to concerns in the climate community regarding the accuracy and reliability of the data.

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but like I always say ... you can always trust an algorithm  (to do what it is told) ... maybe more so than the programmer writing them    )


of course it HAS to be hotter collectively than it was 100 years ago

we've gone from .. two and a half billion people on the planet back in 1950

to something like six and a half billion people even five years ago ... almost a threefold increase


what a world we live in 


(as a side note .. I find it interesting that the word .. algorithm ... could also be written as

... Al Gore Ithm  )

All I can say is said in this short video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbbhTSwDIk

Howler?

yes

Oh, that's a shame. Another Rightie huh?

The most Secular country in the world is Estonia

'you guys'??? Who's 'you guys'? Do you mean me and Tommy?

Righto.

She probably went home because Estonia is the most Secular country in the World.

Estonia once threatened to cut Russia's power off : http://www.politico.eu/article/baltics-threaten-to-unplug-russian-region-power-kaliningrad-electricity-interconnectors-lithuania-poland-sweden/

She used to fantasise about killing Communists by the thousand so probably best that she never met you.