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By:
wombleoz
When: 28 Oct 10 21:18
LOL Joel

Jez - the Greens are now a genuine force in Australian politics, get used to it - we're coming to get you - solid 10% of the vote and growing Cool

It seems that Joe Hockey is joining the ranks as well with the ANZ boss comparing him to Hugo Chavez Laugh

Not that I'm defending the banks making record profits off the backs of the little guy once again, especially after the government did such a good of keeping them out of trouble during the GFC.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 29 Oct 10 08:31
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Nonsense Wombleoz, absolute nonsense.

The Greens will and are being exposed as extreme left wing socialists.

There is nothing sensible or "koala-cuddling" about the Greens.

If you think the wider public are keen on full-time debatess on left wing specialist topics.....such as gay marriage, euthanasia, carbon taxes, death taxes and pulling the pin on investing in our roads - then you are delusional.

The flattening of the Greens vote will happen - and you can thank the current federal predicament for that.  Oh how it warms my heart to think about Lee Rhiannon getting into the national spotlight next year............

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By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 29 Oct 10 09:52
Back to the thread topic.

Support for NSW Labor now at the lowest level of EVER recorded for the ALP.
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Oblivion is coming.............
By:
Koala Chaos
When: 29 Oct 10 09:53
I like to give the Greens a big cuddleLaugh
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 29 Oct 10 09:55
Yes Koala....

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By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 29 Oct 10 10:52
It is now apparent, Julia Gillard is becoming more and more shrill with her claims about the Coalition “screaming from the sidelines”.................................

Just a few months ago, Julia Gillard said the Coalition wanted to “let the market rip” but now accuses the Coalition of ‘economic Hansonism’.

Its worthwhile remembering, between 1998 and 2007, Julia Gillard opposed every major economic reform introduced by the Howard Government...............

She opposed the private health insurance rebate. She opposed tax reform. She opposed waterfront reform. She opposed superannuation reform. She opposed successive Howard Government budget decisions designed to reduce government debt.

Julia Gillard is running the most economically incompetent government in living memory.

Having wasted billions of dollars on overpriced school halls racked up mountains of debt and continuing to borrow $100 million every day, Julia Gillard has zero credibility when she talks about economic reform.

The only economic reform Julia Gillard is interested in is imposing higher electricity prices on Australian families through a carbon tax.  Cry

This is an increasingly desperate Prime Minister trying to distract from the seriousness of Labor’s mess............................[>o][>o]
By:
wombleoz
When: 29 Oct 10 23:51
The economy is going along just fine Jez

Greens have nearly caught Labor in NSW Cool
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 30 Oct 10 00:52
That right womble.

Who gives a stuff if the government wastes billions.
Shocked[smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]
By:
secong coming.
When: 30 Oct 10 04:49
It wont matter jez womble knows the carbon tax is just a guise to get back the $100M a day in borrowings - wont take long by my reckoning
By:
secong coming.
When: 30 Oct 10 04:51
Mischief womble and his boyfriend will be married by the time the carbon tax comes in......
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 30 Oct 10 05:23
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good point secong
By:
wombleoz
When: 30 Oct 10 08:05
LOL not quite secong, in fact not even close

Carbon tax will generate a bit more revenue but the budget will be in surplus in 3 years anyway
By:
Aussie Punter
When: 30 Oct 10 09:01
Im not sure if this is a fed ao state level thing, prob state as it's electricity but for those with solar panels the c...s are thinking about taxing what you put back into the grid : ie ...being classed as Income.

Invest in solar to help save the grid and mother earth a bit and the c...ts are going to tax it  ffsCry
By:
Canberra bookie
When: 30 Oct 10 09:18
wombleoz
30 Oct 10 19:05 
LOL not quite secong, in fact not even close

Carbon tax will generate a bit more revenue but the budget will be in surplus in 3 years anyway


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By:
Canberra bookie
When: 30 Oct 10 09:22
Sure it will wombleoz.

Who the FK will bring it back to surplus?  Do tell?

Santa Clause?

Cause sure as hell it ain't going to be the Labor.

To make that suggestion....I mean......WAKE UP TO YOURSELFLaughLaughLaugh

Labor's in government, but the Greens are in power.

PS - Treasury have already placed this claim (which by the by has not been mentioned recently by senior govt figures) in doubt by casting doubt in commodity prices.
By:
Canberra bookie
When: 31 Oct 10 05:03
Sunday Telegraph - 31st October 2010

POLITICAL instability has struck Prime Minister Julia Gillard's ministry over allegations about the personal behaviour of a Cabinet minister.

In the first sign of trouble for the minority Labor government, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal an MP has approached Ms Gillard's office to raise concerns about a minister's behaviour.

Senior party figures are concerned by the allegations, fearing they could derail the Government's one-seat majority.
But the minister's supporters argue the allegations of poor conduct are part of a concerted campaign to undermine him.

Ms Gillard's office is treating the allegations as manoeuvring about future leadership positions - a dangerous sign for the fledgling government.

A Labor MP told The Sunday Telegraph he decided to alert the Prime Minister's office to the allegations, which had refused to disappear over a long period.

The MP, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he had approached the office more than four weeks ago because he was concerned and thought it prudent to raise the issue.

"I raised it because if you hear things like this, you should make the leadership group aware of what is being said," the MP said.

The MP added that the Prime Minister's office had indicated it was already aware of the allegations.

Another ideologically aligned MP told The Sunday Telegraph the persistent rumours had led some supporters of the minister to reconsider their support.

On Saturday, October 23, the Prime Minister's press secretary, Russell Mahoney, denied any MP had raised concerns with Ms Gillard's office about the allegations.

But yesterday, when The Sunday Telegraph sent Mr Mahoney four questions in writing about whether an MP had alerted the Prime Minister's office to the persistent allegations a month ago, he did not repeat the denial, saying simply: "We don't comment on idle gossip."

But behind the scenes, the issue has been discussed at the highest levels of the Gillard government in the context of a campaign to undermine the minister.

The minister himself has strongly denied any wrongdoing and has said the allegations are untrue.

"I have a categorical denial for you," he told The Sunday Telegraph.

"If you name me, I will sue."

It is understood that Ms Gillard's office is treating the allegations as a political manoeuvre to discredit the minister.

"Someone is behind this. It's political manoeuvring against the minister; these rumours are simply not true," a senior source said.

It is the first sign of disunity at senior levels of the Gillard government since former prime minister Kevin Rudd was ousted on June 24.

Canberra is awash with speculation about the minister's conduct. His behaviour is being discussed openly by Labor MPs, fellow ministers and the backbench.

More than a dozen MPs, ministers and senior party figures have spoken to The Sunday Telegraph about the allegations. Several expressed their concerns about the potential impact on the minority government.

A senior faction leader confirmed he had confronted the minister about the whispering campaign after an enquiry by The Sunday Telegraph and had accepted the minister's denial.

Two key factional backers of the minister said yesterday said he had their full support and any suggestion he had been counselled was untrue.
By:
wombleoz
When: 31 Oct 10 14:54
nothing story - who will take over from Hockey Jez???
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 01:55
Off topic a little, but isn't it great to see the Republicans making massive gains in the US mid-terms. 

Barack Obama is the Kevin Rudd of US politics.

Promised plenty, delivered SWEET FK ALL.

Will be chopped as quickly as he was swept to power.

A truly hopeless President destined to become a one-term wonder.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 02:13
Whats wrong with sticking up for the average person who is being bent over by the banks, Wombleoz?

Joe Hockey is right on to call for swift action on the banks....particularly after yesterdays rise and the Commonwealth's double dipping.

Wayne Swan has come out today talking tough - as this government has done on many issues - but when push comes to shove - they've got NOTHING! ..................

Only a matter of time until leadership pressures strike Julia Gillard, this government has failed monumentally in the past, it has failed to settle in this term, failed to set itself an agenda and failed to deliver across the board.

What is Labor?  What do they stand for these days?  Laugh

Spin may help the last few fledging state Labor governments temporarily but as we've seen federally, its not the smartest long term strategy.....

The last election move against Labor is just the beginning.
By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 03:39
I thought you were a conservative Jez, what's wrong with letting the market do it's work??? shouldn't that be what you should be arguing??? I agree the ACCC should be looking at how they operate but in the end people have the option of credit unions and not for profit community banks to turn to - and they should.

As to the States, terrible result for everyone - we're going have do nothing government for the next 2 years and odds are they'll double dip and drag other parts of the world down with them as a result. Add to that they are electing a bunch of conservative idiots and giving more power to clowns like Murdoch - the whole world will suffer until we fight back
By:
secong coming.
When: 03 Nov 10 03:41
gee i thought that 2nd paragraph was relating to our states until you mentioned murdoch Mischief
By:
secong coming.
When: 03 Nov 10 03:42
have to agree with jez, what is this govt actually doing? and i am not biased i did vote kevin 07 and swing although not the same way as some here.....Shocked
By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 03:45
things in government don't happen overnight secong - not sure how they expected Obama to turn around Bush's America in 2 years

as to here - the country is going along just fine
By:
secong coming.
When: 03 Nov 10 03:47
this govt is in cruise control womble....
have to agree re barack, impossible situation to jump in to
By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 03:52
what do you think they should be doing that they aren't secong?
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 03:53
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Oh wombleoz, get real with you.  You and left wing are the way forward huh?

Dear oh dear.  What nonsense.  Total and absolute nonsense.

The only idiots, are you and your left-wing wackers.

We have a President, in Barack Obama who campaigned on "change" that people could believe in.  A very clever social media campaign which engaged people and brought people a sense of hope in electing the first african-american man as President.

It takes more than "HOPE" and a BELIEF in "CHANGE" to be a good President of the USA. 

Lots of talk, not a great deal of action.  Sounds familiar anyone?

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The US economy is still in dire straits, unemployment over 9%, the Obama Administration spending like drunken sailors................

People have rightly had a gutful.  The good folk of the USA are seeing right through the SPIN...........................

Unlike you and the rest of the righteous LEFTWING, Wombleoz, the public in the USA are in the belief that GOVERNMENT doesn't know best..................
By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 03:57
get real Jez, Obama had no chance - the country was a basket case and still is, you just can't turn things around that quickly
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 03:59
Back home in Australia.

We have a government bereft of any ideas of its own, now targeting the Shadow Treasurer for raising some pretty common sense ideas on giving the ACCC greater powers.

I mean, rather than governing themselves and leading the way - the government, the Labor Gillard Government is spending its days ATTACKING the Opposition.

Wombleoz, best tell your comrades - YOU ARE IN POWER!

Rather than attacking your opponents (in OPPOSITION) how about leading the country, strengthening our economy and PAYING BACK THE DEBT.

Leadership is no where to be seen in this government, ideas are non-existant........and what does this government (LABOR) stand for?

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By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:01
Of course, more time required and the Rudd Government would have hit top gear....what......in its 3rd or 4th term?

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You make fanciful/spin-laden claims - and you have to live up to expectations.

The LEFT have only blame themselves.

Wake up Wombleoz, wake up.  You entangled in your own spin.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:04
wombleoz
get real Jez, Obama had no chance - the country was a basket case and still is, you just can't turn things around that quickly


Not what he was saying amongst much fanfare in 2008.

The present reality is a long way from the Obama-rama parties, of which I'm sure you attended back in 2008.

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And back then, one KEVIN07, had us, here in Australia under his spell................we all know how that ended
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:13
When your elected on "CHANGE" that can be believed and you raise expectations.......with hype and fanfare.

You can't cry foul and plead for more time when the public starts to desert you in droves.

In the US - the LEFT have blown it - creating optimism BUT then delivering are two different things - blame Fox News, blame Murdoch - its all very convenient.......and utter nonsense (akin to me blaming the ABC for a poor Liberal campaign/result).

Back home in Australia - we have a government with a Prime Minister who whilst performed moderately under pressure as a minister has certainly not cemented herself as Prime Minister - the leadership coup was messy, the last term was full of mishaps and waste, and Labor appear to be cruising (as you say secong) without a direction or an agenda and what exactly does it LEGITIMATELY stand for?.............

SPIN will only get you so far - in the end you have to deliver.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:17
By the time the Democrats in the US and Labor in Australia "find" themselves and get around to actually delivering on promises made and expectations raised - the public will have already spoken - and turfed them out.
By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 04:18
name something that you want Gillard to do Jez that isn't either already happening or planned?  it's all under control (but not perfect) - yes I wish it was happening faster, e.g. a price on carbon - but it's happening
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:24
I'm not going to give you the opportunity to spin some more Wombleoz.

I'll leave you to continue to admire this government on whatever basis you wish.............

Back in the real world though - the truth is not as dreamy and dandy.
By:
Joel
When: 03 Nov 10 04:26
Seems OK to me
By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 04:26
so you've got nothing Jez LOL - no surprise Laugh
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:30
The world of Wombleoz:

Labor coast along in cruise control, ladelling spin throughout the 24 hour news cycle, following the every word of Bob Brown and the Greens to dictate their agenda and cruise into the next election and win comfortable.....


How proposterous to think that Australian's could vote out a progressive government......................

They know best.

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By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:31
*preposterous
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 03 Nov 10 04:33
wombleoz 03 Nov 10 03:18 
name something that you want Gillard to do Jez that isn't either already happening or planned? it's all under control (but not perfect) - yes I wish it was happening faster, e.g. a price on carbon - but it's happening


Understatement of the year

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By:
wombleoz
When: 03 Nov 10 04:36
So name something Jez, what do you think they should be doing that they aren't???
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