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10 Apr 18 23:37
Date Joined: 22 Sep 06
| Topic/replies: 56,989 | Blogger: irishone's blog
13/8 an irish trained winner is much too big on the sportsbook
There is no doubt in my mind that irish trained horses have a significant advantage in soft or heavy ground.
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Report saxon farm April 11, 2018 10:15 AM BST
Report sickoflayinwinners April 11, 2018 8:35 PM BST
would it not begetter to just back all the irish trained horses to return the same sum almost definitely getting bigger than 13/8?
Report wondersobright April 11, 2018 9:05 PM BST
combined odds of all irish trained horses in the top 40 is slightly over 2/1

I agree with the general principle that irish horses do better in the mud so that 2/1 could be a decent bet
Report irishone April 11, 2018 10:56 PM BST
Think you must be a bit short on numbers there
The top 4 are nearly 30 % of the market
Report wondersobright April 11, 2018 11:27 PM BST
apologies irish, the 14 runners in the top 40 combined are 2.29 (5/4 ish) not the 2.29/1 I was thinking

that 13/8 is generous
Report wondersobright April 12, 2018 12:43 PM BST
15 runners now as gold present OUT & road to riches IN
looks a 6/5 poke at best an irish winner
also the irish have 1st reserve
Report J.J.Cale...pedrocadiz April 13, 2018 12:30 AM BST
havent delved into this market much but judging by previous results at cheltenham etc the irish should be 4/7. jonjo, aln king and davd pipe are so poor.. nicolls and twiston davies  (actualyy backed warriors tale but not my number 1) is on the downgrade so us brits dowt really ahve much ammo left in the trainig deaprtment anymore. even hendo withdraws his only runner now. The irish hold all the aces in my book.
Report impossible123 April 13, 2018 7:52 AM BST
I tend to agree 13/8 seems great value for an Irish trained winner given their dominance at the front of the market, and probable easy going. How did they come to this opinion and are they privileged to info we are not?
Report irishone April 13, 2018 8:33 AM BST
The whole bookmaking fraternity has better sources of info !
The view they take on that info is where they make mistakes

Is the 9/4 12 or few finishers value in very soft ground for example ?
Report impossible123 April 13, 2018 8:50 AM BST
Maybe the trainers' championship battle between Elliot and Mullins has a bearing on the bookies opinions. But 13/8 looks inviting. Also, I think 12 or more (40 runners) will finish the race because of the "new" less taxing fences given history, and despite the going, I believe.
Report wondersobright April 13, 2018 1:50 PM BST
beeves & vicente join gold present as NRs

thunder and roses & walk in the mill also get a run along with road to riches

the 13/8 has gone now and is now 6/5
Report wondersobright April 14, 2018 5:31 PM BST
never a sweat Grin had the 1st billion home
Report irishone April 14, 2018 6:05 PM BST
Good hit for me ... Stuck out a mile
Report irishone April 14, 2018 6:10 PM BST
Oi oi 12 finishers 9/4 as well

Feck me i can stop betting for the rest of the year now .....
Report wondersobright April 14, 2018 6:39 PM BST
wd irish, v good hit on the irish winner
Report IrisDeBalme April 14, 2018 7:27 PM BST
Well done winners.
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