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Nooooo don't do it. Don't believe everything BBC weather tells you. I use a few weather services and there are still a few mils of rain to come yet before next Thursday. Warmer yes, but pretty overcast over the next week. Today (Thurs) is a nice blip.
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All heavy now removed from going. With some good/soft on mildmay.
The Randox Health Grand National Festival Next Race Meeting 12/04/2018 Report Date 04/04/2018 14:43:00 Official Going Mildmay and Hurdle: Soft, Good to Soft in places Grand National: Soft GoingStick Rails Rail on outer line - distances tbc. Rail will be moved in each day to provide fresh ground Weather: 22mm Monday, 4mm Wednesday. Thursday - dry, bright with sunny spells 14C Friday, Saturday and Sunday - bright and breezy, with showers Monday onwards - mainly dry, cloudy with brighter spells odd shower 13C |
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Map here:-
http://maps.turftrax.co.uk/latestgoingreport.asp?course=aintree |
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Saturday might be very wet
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Aintree Racecourse
The Randox Health Grand National Festival Next Race Meeting 12/04/2018 Report Date 05/04/2018 15:50:00 Official Going Mildmay and Hurdle: Good to Soft, Soft in places Grand National: Soft, Good to Soft in places GoingStick Rails Rail on outer line - distances tbc. Rail will be moved in each day to provide fresh ground Weather: 22mm Monday, 6mm Wednesday. Thursday - dry, bright with sunny spells 14C Friday - cloudy with sunny spells, showers developing overnight 4mm. Windy 11C Saturday - showers am 4mm, clearing midday. Cloudy afternoon 11C Sunday - dry, bright and breezy 11C Monday - dry am, poss. band of rain overnight 12C Tuesday onwards - mainly dry, cloudy with brighter spells odd shower 13C |
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Good to soft-soft in places; national course: soft-gd to sft plcs
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At best the ground will be soft....potentially heavy.
Surely most of the field want good ground? |
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pf that report was from Thursday last week and doesn't take into account Saturday's rain.
We need an up to date going stick reading to see what effect that rain has had |
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National course soft now
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The going on the Grand National course eased to soft (from soft, good to soft in places) on Sunday, with Aintree groundstaff preparing for another week of sunshine and showers.
Although the track was dry on Sunday, Aintree received 13mm of rain on Saturday and more is expected during the week with the unsettled weather across Britain set to continue. Clerk of the course Andrew Tulloch said on Sunday: “We’ve been dry today but the National course has eased a touch after the rain yesterday. The Mildmay course has taken the rain really well and is good to soft, soft in places, and it's soft, good to soft in places on the hurdles course.” Conditions over the past few weeks have made preparing the courses for this week tougher than usual for Tulloch and his team, but he is looking forward to the start of the action. “The forecast is unsettled for most of the week but there’s nothing we can do about that,” he said. “It’s not been nice over the last three weeks or so and we’ve had to deal with that and act accordingly, but we’re all looking forward to the racing starting.” |
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Lovely drying day today. Very sunny, light breeze. It's going to get to about 13-14 degrees C.
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Not for long
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Definitely will be: good to soft
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I'm definitely taking my big coat this week
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pees down tonight forecast
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Rained tonight 5-7 not too hard
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if the forecast is correct it will be at least good to soft
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Judging by what's collected in my recycling box, there's been another decent amount of rain overnight, and it's still coming down now, albeit lightly.
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thanks for the updates mary
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According to the weather site I use 10mm in last 48 hours so I would expect the National going to be soft all over in the next update. Not much forecast the next couple of days but differences of opinion still as to what’s on the way for Friday/Saturday. If 14 mm does arrive on Friday it’s going to be very testing indeed.
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Last 24 hours I meant sorry**
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Very heavy rain all morning at Aintree and still raining steadily
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There is a video on the racing post live aintree blog posted about 10 minutes ago showing it absolutely lashing down on the course.
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Accuweather stating 17mm rain in the last 12 hours for Liverpool. Going to be interesting the next turftrax update
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GoingStick reading lower at Aintree now than for Becher day in December when official going was heavy. Considerably lower on Mildmay (4.0 compared to 5.0). National 3.7 (was 4.0 for Becher)
From Paul Kealy on Twitter. |
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Turftrax has updated saying soft with heavy at canal turn. I’m a little surprised 3.7 surely that’s got to be heavy?
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bexley on several occasions in the past according to their archive anything from 3.6 to 4.5 has been called heavy so you would think that
3.7 would qualify as "heavy" |
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Thanks Sewter, looking at other racecourse readings I’m certain they would be stating heavy for that reading. Even with dry days from now to Saturday it’s going to be testing. It could be that awful tacky ground when a bog starts to dry out. Makes it even tougher to get through.
Getting hopeful for Vintage Clouds now, bound to be a few ground related withdrawals or is that just wishful thinking? Vincent’s won’t be going I’d be confident in predicting that at least |
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It will be a race of the survival of the fittest... I wouldnt want anything with more than 11s to hump round there for 4 and a half miles
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Accuweather forecasting rain every day even Sat afternoon.
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its your lucky day DYNO-LAYER.iots no longer rfun over 4 and a half miles,
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Aintree Racecourse
The Randox Health Grand National Festival Next Race Meeting 11/04/2018 23:00:00 Report Date 10/04/2018 14:03:00 Official Going Mildmay Soft, Hurdle: Soft National Soft, Heavy Canal Turn GoingStick Mildmay 4.2 Hurdle: 4.1 National 3.7 on Tuesday at 14:00 Rails Rail on outer line - distances tbc. Rail will be moved in each day to provide fresh ground Weather: 13mm Saturday. 8mm last 24 hours Tuesday - rain cleared late morning. Cloudy and overcast 12C Wednesday - cloudy, breezy with drizzle overnight 13C Thursday - dry with sunny spells. Poss shower overnight 12C Friday - cloudy, poss showers through afternoon 12C Saturday - cloudy am, showers pm 12C |
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3.7
similar to cheltenham, we are looking at the softest ground in years for this meeting the most testing ground for a grand national since red marauder's year (although won't be that bad) |
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3.7 Wonders’s
Jeez h Fox hunters going to be interesting Thursday |
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looks dry now until the race so probably going to be around good to soft by Saturday
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There are a few mm’s around in showers so I’d still predict they will be calling it Soft. Whatever they call it I bet the times on Saturday will reflect testing ground conditions.
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Now officially G-S , S in places but looking at the Turftrax map , it is surely Soft , G-S in places ?
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According to the RP it’s soft all over on the National course today but no updated going stick readings and turftrax hasn’t been updated as far as I can see
Where are you getting your info Stellar? |
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There's some confusing descriptions in my view. I agree with Paul Kealy's commentary regarding the actual going stick. The current RPost description (https://www.racingpost.com/non-runners/2018-04-12) shows the national at 3.7 on the going stick and 'Soft' (I suspect this was yesterday). For the Becher chase in December (http://www.turftrax.co.uk/going_stick_archive.html) it was Heavy/soft in places with a reading of 4.0. Which suggests the current description should be Heavy (for a reading of 3.7).
Weather forecasts are contradictory as it looks like any further rain in next three days will be showers (https://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/aintree/l10-6/weather-forecast/325596) - this forecast suggests 'some showers' each days. Other's don't. My own take is that if the going should really read 'Heavy' just now at best it will be soft on saturday. We've all had so much wet weather over the winter the water table must be q high.. that I can't believe it will fundamentally 'dry out' in three days. Look for the real stayers and those who like their toes in.... History...If you look through the results when it's been heavy or v soft it invariably is less class and more plodder who wins (Rule the world 33s -2016, Red Maurauder - 33s 2001 , Little Polveoir 28/1 - 1989, Miinehoma 16s - 1994, Ben Nevis 40/1 - 1980...the exceptions were the classier and better fancied west tip in 1986 and earth summit in 1998). |