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1) DEFINITLY RED (IRE) 9 11-10 165 Phil & Julie Martin, Brian Ellison
2) BRISTOL DE MAI (FR) 7 11-09 164 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Nigel Twiston-Davies
3) EDWULF 9 11-09 164 J P McManus, Joseph O'Brien IRE
4) OUTLANDER (IRE) 10 11-08 163 Gigginstown House Stud, Gordon Elliott IRE
5) MINELLA ROCCO (IRE) 8 11-07 162 J P McManus, Jonjo O'Neill
6) BLAKLION 9 11-06 161 Simon Such & Gino Paletta, Nigel Twiston-Davies
7) SUB LIEUTENANT (IRE) 9 11-05 160 Gigginstown House Stud, Henry de Bromhead IRE
8) ANIBALE FLY (FR) 8 11-04 159 J P McManus, Tony Martin IRE
9) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 10 11-04 159 Paul & Clare Rooney, Kim Bailey
10) MALA BEACH (IRE) 10 11-03 158 Chris Jones, Gordon Elliott IRE
11) VALSEUR LIDO (FR) 9 11-03 158 Gigginstown House Stud, Henry de Bromhead IRE
12) AMERICAN (FR) 8 11-02 157 The Jago Family Partnership, Harry Fry
13) TOTAL RECALL (IRE) 9 11-01 156 Slaneyville Syndicate, Willie Mullins IRE
14) ALPHA DES OBEAUX (FR) 8 11-00 155 Gigginstown House Stud, Mouse Morris IRE
15) GOLD PRESENT (IRE) 8 11-00 155 John & Barbara Cotton, Nicky Henderson
16) NOBLE ENDEAVOR (IRE) 9 10-13 154 Chris Jones, Gordon Elliott IRE
17) PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE) 11 10-13 154 ISL Recruitment, Fergal O'Brien
18) SIZING CODELCO (IRE) 9 10-13 154 Ann & Alan Potts Limited, Colin Tizzard
19) CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA) 10 10-12 153 J P McManus, Gordon Elliott IRE
20) SHANTOU FLYER (IRE) 8 10-12 153 Carl Hinchy, Richard Hobson
21) CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 12 10-11 152 J P McManus, John Kiely IRE
22) O O SEVEN (IRE) 8 10-11 152 Christopher Hanbury, Nicky Henderson
23) TENOR NIVERNAIS (FR) 11 10-11 152 Boultbee Brooks Ltd, Venetia Williams
24) GO CONQUER (IRE) 9 10-10 151 Paul & Clare Rooney, Jonjo O'Neill
25) TRAFFIC FLUIDE (FR) 8 10-10 151 Galloping On The South Downs Partnership, Gary Moore
26) VICENTE (FR) 9 10-10 151 Trevor Hemmings, Paul Nicholls
27) ACAPELLA BOURGEOIS (FR) 8 10-09 150 Slaneyville Syndicate, Willie Mullins IRE
28) RATHVINDEN (IRE) 10 10-09 150 Ronnie Bartlett, Willie Mullins IRE
29) REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 10 10-09 150 J P McManus, Anthony Honeyball
30) TIGER ROLL (IRE) 8 10-09 150 Gigginstown House Stud, Gordon Elliott IRE
31) VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 9 10-09 150 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent, David Pipe
32) A GENIE IN ABOTTLE (IRE) 7 10-08 149 Gigginstown House Stud, Noel Meade IRE
33) AS DE MEE (FR) 8 10-08 149 The Stewart Family & Judi Dench, Paul Nicholls
34) CHASE THE SPUD 10 10-08 149 Christine Banks, Fergal O'Brien
35) ROCK THE KASBAH (IRE) 8 10-08 149 Diana Whateley, Philip Hobbs
36) SEEYOUATMIDNIGHT 10 10-08 149 Quona Thomson, Sandy Thomson
37) WARRIORS TALE 9 10-08 149 Michelle & Dan Macdonald, Paul Nicholls
38) BELLSHILL (IRE) 8 10-07 148 Andrea & Graham Wylie, Willie Mullins IRE
39) FLYING ANGEL (IRE) 7 10-07 148 Rob Rexton, Nigel Twiston-Davies
40) GAS LINE BOY (IRE) 12 10-07 148 The Three Graces, Ian Williams
41) PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 10 10-07 148 Malcolm C Denmark, Willie Mullins IRE
42) THE DUTCHMAN (IRE) 8 10-07 148 SprayClad UK, Colin Tizzard
43) BEEVES (IRE) 11 10-06 147 Paul & Clare Rooney, Jennie Candlish
44) SAINT ARE (FR) 12 10-06 147 David Fox, Tom George
45) UCELLO CONTI (FR) 10 10-06 147 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Gordon Elliott IRE
46) VYTA DU ROC (FR) 9 10-06 147 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Nicky Henderson
47) CAROLE'S DESTRIER 10 10-05 146 Carole Skipworth, Neil Mulholland
48) LONG HOUSE HALL (IRE) 10 10-05 146 Carl Hinchy, Dan Skelton
49) POLIDAM (FR) 9 10-05 146 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Willie Mullins IRE
50) RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 13 10-05 146 James Swan Gavin Cromwell IRE
51) ABOLITIONIST (IRE) 10 10-04 145 Mark Albon, John Provan & Chris Stedman Dr Richard Newland
52) BAIE DES ILES (FR) 7 10-04 145 Zorka Wentworth, Ross O'Sullivan IRE
53) BUYWISE (IRE) 11 10-04 145 T Hywel Jones, Evan Williams
54) CHILDRENS LIST (IRE) 8 10-04 145 Susannah Ricci, Willie Mullins IRE
55) I JUST KNOW (IRE) 8 10-04 145 M B Scholey & the late R H Scholey, Sue Smith
56) MAGGIO (FR) 13 10-04 145 Douglas Pryde/James Beaumont, Patrick Griffin IRE
57) PENDRA (IRE) 10 10-04 145 J P McManus, Charlie Longsdon
58) VIRGILIO (FR) 9 10-04 145 C J Edwards, D Futter, A H Rushworth, Dan Skelton
59) CAPTAIN REDBEARD (IRE) 9 10-03 144 Stuart Coltherd, Stuart Coltherd
60) HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR) 11 10-03 144 Mrs Julian Blackwell, Venetia Williams
61) LORD WINDERMERE (IRE) 12 10-03 144 Dr Ronan Lambe, Jim Culloty IRE
62) SILSOL (GER) 9 10-03 144 Michelle & Dan Macdonald, Paul Nicholls
63) THIRD INTENTION (IRE) 11 10-03 144 Robert & Sarah Tizzard, Colin Tizzard
64) THREE FACES WEST (IRE) 10 10-03 144 Paul & Clare Rooney, Philip Hobbs
65) WILD WEST WIND (IRE) 9 10-03 144 Simon Clarke, Tom George
66) BLESS THE WINGS (IRE) 13 10-02 143 Adrian Butler & S P O'Connor, Gordon Elliott IRE
67) DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 12 10-02 143 Options O Syndicate, Nigel Twiston-Davies
68) FINAL NUDGE (IRE) 9 10-02 143 Corbett Stud, David Dennis
69) MILANSBAR (IRE) 11 10-02 143 Robert Bothway, Neil King
70) MORNING ASSEMBLY (IRE) 11 10-02 143 Clipper Logistics Group Ltd, Pat Fahy IRE
71) DELUSIONOFGRANDEUR (IRE) 8 10-01 142 McGoldrick Racing 3, Sue Smith
72) ROAD TO RICHES (IRE) 11 10-01 142 Gigginstown House Stud, Noel Meade IRE
73) THUNDER AND ROSES (IRE) 10 10-01 142 Gigginstown House Stud, Mouse Morris IRE
74) SAMETEGAL (FR) 9 10-00 141 John & Barbara Cotton, Paul Nicholls
75) VINTAGE CLOUDS (IRE) 8 10-00 141 Trevor Hemmings, Sue Smith
76) WALK IN THE MILL (FR) 8 10-00 141 Baroness Harding, Robert Walford
77) GENERAL PRINCIPLE (IRE) 9 9-12 139 Gigginstown House Stud, Gordon Elliott IRE
78) VIC DE TOUZAINE (FR) 9 9-12 139 Andrew Brooks & G Moore, Venetia Williams
79) VIEUX MORVAN (FR) 9 9-12 139 M L Bloodstock, Joseph O'Brien IRE
80) WOUNDED WARRIOR (IRE) 9 9-12 139 Gigginstown House Stud, Noel Meade IRE
81) ARBRE DE VIE (FR) 8 9-11 138 Susannah Ricci, Willie Mullins IRE
82) BALLYALTON (IRE) 11 9-11 138 John Westwood, Ian Williams
83) BONNY KATE (IRE) 8 9-11 138 Patricia Hunt, Noel Meade IRE
84) COGRY 9 9-11 138 Graham & Alison Jelley, Nigel Twiston-Davies
85) MISSED APPROACH (IRE) 8 9-11 138 Alan & Andrew Turner, Warren Greatrex
86) MYSTEREE (IRE) 10 9-11 138 Mrs Lynne Maclennan, Michael Scudamore
87) SIR MANGAN (IRE) 10 9-11 138 Frank McAleavy, Dan Skelton
88) SPLASH OF GINGE 10 9-11 138 John Neild, Nigel Twiston-Davies
89) BRAQUEUR D'OR (FR) 7 9-10 137 Corsellis & Seyfried, Paul Nicholls
90) MINELLA DADDY (IRE) 8 9-10 137 Roddy Owen & Paul Fullagar, Peter Bowen
91) PAIROFBROWNEYES (IRE) 9 9-10 137 Fibbage Syndicate, Willie Mullins IRE
92) RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 9 9-10 137 Nigel Morris, Rebecca Curtis
93) KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 9 9-09 136 Tim Leslie, Donald McCain
94) THE YOUNG MASTER 9 9-08 135 Mike Burbidge & The Old Masters, Neil Mulholland
95) ALFIE SPINNER (IRE) 13 9-06 133 Alan Beard & Brian Beard, Kerry Lee
96) HENRI PARRY MORGAN 10 9-06 133 Ednyfed & Elizabeth Morgan, Peter Bowen
97) PHIL'S MAGIC (IRE) 8 9-06 133 Lyreen Syndicate, Tony Martin IRE
98) BRAVISSIMO (FR) 7 9-05 132 Susannah Ricci, Willie Mullins IRE
99) DANCING SHADOW (IRE) 9 9-05 132 The Dancing Shadows, Victor Dartnall
100) ROGUE ANGEL (IRE) 10 9-05 132 Gigginstown House Stud, Mouse Morris IRE
101) THEBARROWMAN (IRE) 8 9-04 131 D Keys, Adrian Keatley IRE
102) OUT SAM 9 9-03 130 D Charlesworth, Gordon Elliott IRE
103) KRACKATOA KING 10 9-00 127 JC Harrison Lee & T Howard Partnership, Kerry Lee
2) BRISTOL DE MAI (FR) 7 11-09 164 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Nigel Twiston-Davies
3) EDWULF 9 11-09 164 J P McManus, Joseph O'Brien IRE
4) OUTLANDER (IRE) 10 11-08 163 Gigginstown House Stud, Gordon Elliott IRE
5) MINELLA ROCCO (IRE) 8 11-07 162 J P McManus, Jonjo O'Neill
6) BLAKLION 9 11-06 161 Simon Such & Gino Paletta, Nigel Twiston-Davies
7) SUB LIEUTENANT (IRE) 9 11-05 160 Gigginstown House Stud, Henry de Bromhead IRE
8) ANIBALE FLY (FR) 8 11-04 159 J P McManus, Tony Martin IRE
9) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 10 11-04 159 Paul & Clare Rooney, Kim Bailey
10) MALA BEACH (IRE) 10 11-03 158 Chris Jones, Gordon Elliott IRE
11) VALSEUR LIDO (FR) 9 11-03 158 Gigginstown House Stud, Henry de Bromhead IRE
12) AMERICAN (FR) 8 11-02 157 The Jago Family Partnership, Harry Fry
13) TOTAL RECALL (IRE) 9 11-01 156 Slaneyville Syndicate, Willie Mullins IRE
14) ALPHA DES OBEAUX (FR) 8 11-00 155 Gigginstown House Stud, Mouse Morris IRE
15) GOLD PRESENT (IRE) 8 11-00 155 John & Barbara Cotton, Nicky Henderson
16) NOBLE ENDEAVOR (IRE) 9 10-13 154 Chris Jones, Gordon Elliott IRE
17) PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE) 11 10-13 154 ISL Recruitment, Fergal O'Brien
18) SIZING CODELCO (IRE) 9 10-13 154 Ann & Alan Potts Limited, Colin Tizzard
19) CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA) 10 10-12 153 J P McManus, Gordon Elliott IRE
20) SHANTOU FLYER (IRE) 8 10-12 153 Carl Hinchy, Richard Hobson
21) CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 12 10-11 152 J P McManus, John Kiely IRE
22) O O SEVEN (IRE) 8 10-11 152 Christopher Hanbury, Nicky Henderson
23) TENOR NIVERNAIS (FR) 11 10-11 152 Boultbee Brooks Ltd, Venetia Williams
24) GO CONQUER (IRE) 9 10-10 151 Paul & Clare Rooney, Jonjo O'Neill
25) TRAFFIC FLUIDE (FR) 8 10-10 151 Galloping On The South Downs Partnership, Gary Moore
26) VICENTE (FR) 9 10-10 151 Trevor Hemmings, Paul Nicholls
27) ACAPELLA BOURGEOIS (FR) 8 10-09 150 Slaneyville Syndicate, Willie Mullins IRE
28) RATHVINDEN (IRE) 10 10-09 150 Ronnie Bartlett, Willie Mullins IRE
29) REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 10 10-09 150 J P McManus, Anthony Honeyball
30) TIGER ROLL (IRE) 8 10-09 150 Gigginstown House Stud, Gordon Elliott IRE
31) VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 9 10-09 150 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent, David Pipe
32) A GENIE IN ABOTTLE (IRE) 7 10-08 149 Gigginstown House Stud, Noel Meade IRE
33) AS DE MEE (FR) 8 10-08 149 The Stewart Family & Judi Dench, Paul Nicholls
34) CHASE THE SPUD 10 10-08 149 Christine Banks, Fergal O'Brien
35) ROCK THE KASBAH (IRE) 8 10-08 149 Diana Whateley, Philip Hobbs
36) SEEYOUATMIDNIGHT 10 10-08 149 Quona Thomson, Sandy Thomson
37) WARRIORS TALE 9 10-08 149 Michelle & Dan Macdonald, Paul Nicholls
38) BELLSHILL (IRE) 8 10-07 148 Andrea & Graham Wylie, Willie Mullins IRE
39) FLYING ANGEL (IRE) 7 10-07 148 Rob Rexton, Nigel Twiston-Davies
40) GAS LINE BOY (IRE) 12 10-07 148 The Three Graces, Ian Williams
41) PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 10 10-07 148 Malcolm C Denmark, Willie Mullins IRE
42) THE DUTCHMAN (IRE) 8 10-07 148 SprayClad UK, Colin Tizzard
43) BEEVES (IRE) 11 10-06 147 Paul & Clare Rooney, Jennie Candlish
44) SAINT ARE (FR) 12 10-06 147 David Fox, Tom George
45) UCELLO CONTI (FR) 10 10-06 147 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Gordon Elliott IRE
46) VYTA DU ROC (FR) 9 10-06 147 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Nicky Henderson
47) CAROLE'S DESTRIER 10 10-05 146 Carole Skipworth, Neil Mulholland
48) LONG HOUSE HALL (IRE) 10 10-05 146 Carl Hinchy, Dan Skelton
49) POLIDAM (FR) 9 10-05 146 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, Willie Mullins IRE
50) RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 13 10-05 146 James Swan Gavin Cromwell IRE
51) ABOLITIONIST (IRE) 10 10-04 145 Mark Albon, John Provan & Chris Stedman Dr Richard Newland
52) BAIE DES ILES (FR) 7 10-04 145 Zorka Wentworth, Ross O'Sullivan IRE
53) BUYWISE (IRE) 11 10-04 145 T Hywel Jones, Evan Williams
54) CHILDRENS LIST (IRE) 8 10-04 145 Susannah Ricci, Willie Mullins IRE
55) I JUST KNOW (IRE) 8 10-04 145 M B Scholey & the late R H Scholey, Sue Smith
56) MAGGIO (FR) 13 10-04 145 Douglas Pryde/James Beaumont, Patrick Griffin IRE
57) PENDRA (IRE) 10 10-04 145 J P McManus, Charlie Longsdon
58) VIRGILIO (FR) 9 10-04 145 C J Edwards, D Futter, A H Rushworth, Dan Skelton
59) CAPTAIN REDBEARD (IRE) 9 10-03 144 Stuart Coltherd, Stuart Coltherd
60) HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR) 11 10-03 144 Mrs Julian Blackwell, Venetia Williams
61) LORD WINDERMERE (IRE) 12 10-03 144 Dr Ronan Lambe, Jim Culloty IRE
62) SILSOL (GER) 9 10-03 144 Michelle & Dan Macdonald, Paul Nicholls
63) THIRD INTENTION (IRE) 11 10-03 144 Robert & Sarah Tizzard, Colin Tizzard
64) THREE FACES WEST (IRE) 10 10-03 144 Paul & Clare Rooney, Philip Hobbs
65) WILD WEST WIND (IRE) 9 10-03 144 Simon Clarke, Tom George
66) BLESS THE WINGS (IRE) 13 10-02 143 Adrian Butler & S P O'Connor, Gordon Elliott IRE
67) DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 12 10-02 143 Options O Syndicate, Nigel Twiston-Davies
68) FINAL NUDGE (IRE) 9 10-02 143 Corbett Stud, David Dennis
69) MILANSBAR (IRE) 11 10-02 143 Robert Bothway, Neil King
70) MORNING ASSEMBLY (IRE) 11 10-02 143 Clipper Logistics Group Ltd, Pat Fahy IRE
71) DELUSIONOFGRANDEUR (IRE) 8 10-01 142 McGoldrick Racing 3, Sue Smith
72) ROAD TO RICHES (IRE) 11 10-01 142 Gigginstown House Stud, Noel Meade IRE
73) THUNDER AND ROSES (IRE) 10 10-01 142 Gigginstown House Stud, Mouse Morris IRE
74) SAMETEGAL (FR) 9 10-00 141 John & Barbara Cotton, Paul Nicholls
75) VINTAGE CLOUDS (IRE) 8 10-00 141 Trevor Hemmings, Sue Smith
76) WALK IN THE MILL (FR) 8 10-00 141 Baroness Harding, Robert Walford
77) GENERAL PRINCIPLE (IRE) 9 9-12 139 Gigginstown House Stud, Gordon Elliott IRE
78) VIC DE TOUZAINE (FR) 9 9-12 139 Andrew Brooks & G Moore, Venetia Williams
79) VIEUX MORVAN (FR) 9 9-12 139 M L Bloodstock, Joseph O'Brien IRE
80) WOUNDED WARRIOR (IRE) 9 9-12 139 Gigginstown House Stud, Noel Meade IRE
81) ARBRE DE VIE (FR) 8 9-11 138 Susannah Ricci, Willie Mullins IRE
82) BALLYALTON (IRE) 11 9-11 138 John Westwood, Ian Williams
83) BONNY KATE (IRE) 8 9-11 138 Patricia Hunt, Noel Meade IRE
84) COGRY 9 9-11 138 Graham & Alison Jelley, Nigel Twiston-Davies
85) MISSED APPROACH (IRE) 8 9-11 138 Alan & Andrew Turner, Warren Greatrex
86) MYSTEREE (IRE) 10 9-11 138 Mrs Lynne Maclennan, Michael Scudamore
87) SIR MANGAN (IRE) 10 9-11 138 Frank McAleavy, Dan Skelton
88) SPLASH OF GINGE 10 9-11 138 John Neild, Nigel Twiston-Davies
89) BRAQUEUR D'OR (FR) 7 9-10 137 Corsellis & Seyfried, Paul Nicholls
90) MINELLA DADDY (IRE) 8 9-10 137 Roddy Owen & Paul Fullagar, Peter Bowen
91) PAIROFBROWNEYES (IRE) 9 9-10 137 Fibbage Syndicate, Willie Mullins IRE
92) RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 9 9-10 137 Nigel Morris, Rebecca Curtis
93) KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 9 9-09 136 Tim Leslie, Donald McCain
94) THE YOUNG MASTER 9 9-08 135 Mike Burbidge & The Old Masters, Neil Mulholland
95) ALFIE SPINNER (IRE) 13 9-06 133 Alan Beard & Brian Beard, Kerry Lee
96) HENRI PARRY MORGAN 10 9-06 133 Ednyfed & Elizabeth Morgan, Peter Bowen
97) PHIL'S MAGIC (IRE) 8 9-06 133 Lyreen Syndicate, Tony Martin IRE
98) BRAVISSIMO (FR) 7 9-05 132 Susannah Ricci, Willie Mullins IRE
99) DANCING SHADOW (IRE) 9 9-05 132 The Dancing Shadows, Victor Dartnall
100) ROGUE ANGEL (IRE) 10 9-05 132 Gigginstown House Stud, Mouse Morris IRE
101) THEBARROWMAN (IRE) 8 9-04 131 D Keys, Adrian Keatley IRE
102) OUT SAM 9 9-03 130 D Charlesworth, Gordon Elliott IRE
103) KRACKATOA KING 10 9-00 127 JC Harrison Lee & T Howard Partnership, Kerry Lee
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got a low weight for sure 35 to go out b4 he gets in so anyones guess. i like cause of causes of that weight at 25/1 and Vieux lion roiuge at 50/1 acapeela beorgiose will also get a few quiod on it
tom segal has put up today
total recall 14/1
gold present 25/1
total recall 14/1
gold present 25/1
Well i was very keen on Milansbar in the Welsh National and very disappointed with the way he jumped in rear.
New jockey and different tactics saw a proper performance at Warwick winning the same race as Arthur did last year.
Dont know if Bryony will be available to ride in the National but if she is then must have a serious chance off a mark of 143 and 10-02.
a raise of 9 pounds is fair enough.
I really like the Milans over extreme distances on the soft
Just got to get in now
New jockey and different tactics saw a proper performance at Warwick winning the same race as Arthur did last year.
Dont know if Bryony will be available to ride in the National but if she is then must have a serious chance off a mark of 143 and 10-02.
a raise of 9 pounds is fair enough.
I really like the Milans over extreme distances on the soft
Just got to get in now
Caroles Destrier looks to have a lot of positives. The Sandown Gold cup win and the Hennessy second are stand out pieces of form regarding this race. It seems the Grand National was very much on the agenda for him last year but he missed it for whatever reason. Be interesting to see how he runs on Wednesday. I am a bit concerned that he is entered in a veterans race but 66/1 looks worth taking a chance on.
Carole's Destrier form in the Hennessy is far and away the best form relative to its weight. I believe it was injured in the Welsh national. It wouldn't concern me running in a veterans race, it's only 10 and an ideal age. Probably going there as the going looks like it will be good and its a flat track. Obviously how it runs will show whether it still retains the ability it showed last season. It's more or less take a chance and bet now and if it runs well you have a great bet but if it bombs out you've already lost your money !!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSI-3VuKTmlnzqKmhkOB1RQ/videos
Henderson, Patrick Mullins, Elliott and Jonjo talking about their national entries. Annoying that they are each 15 seconds but some interesting sound bites
Horse must be gone at the game. A shame really as did have a lot of form positives. I think I've done my money though.
Have to agree. Made excuses re heavy ground etc in the past but there can't be any for the Doncaster run. Been a spectacular decline really as it didn't look as if it is capable of winning anything now. Makes you wonder why it gets entered in the GN as it must be no better on the gallops unless there is a dramatic turnaround, I wont be banking on it though.
My last straw to clutch is that they are still keeping handicap mark down for Cheltenham/aintree double. Something like the Kim Muir which sunnyhillboy nearly pulled off. It's the only hope to cling to.
I didn't know at the time of writing that he actually has been entered up at Cheltenham. That has given me a bit more hope than what I did previously had. Won't throw it away just yet.
That was a nearly £19000 race at Donny and a lot less competitive than Cheltenham. Worryingly he was never travelling even in the first few furlongs. Wouldn't be surprised to see it scratched from the GN next forfeit stage but as you say that's what straws are for. to be clutched at. Waiting for the next one to bomb out now, Noble Endeavor lol
Latest scratchings anyone? Only 90 left today they say.
This is Mully- sort your stupid cookies out Betfair.
Looks like I'm captured in time on my old profile 
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THE FOLLOWING 14 ENTRIES HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED: BRISTOL DE MAI, NOBLE ENDEAVOR, VYTA DU ROC, POLIDAM, ABOLITIONIST, SILSOL, THREE FACES WEST, SAMETEGAL, VIEUX MORVAN, ARBRE DE VIE, BALLYALTON, MISSED APPROACH, BRAVISSIMO, & THEBARROWMAN from the Grand National.
THE FOLLOWING 14 ENTRIES HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED: BRISTOL DE MAI, NOBLE ENDEAVOR, VYTA DU ROC, POLIDAM, ABOLITIONIST, SILSOL, THREE FACES WEST, SAMETEGAL, VIEUX MORVAN, ARBRE DE VIE, BALLYALTON, MISSED APPROACH, BRAVISSIMO, & THEBARROWMAN from the Grand National.
Seeyouatmidnight is bang up there on my shortlist.
Seeyouatmidnight was also an excellent three-length third in the 2016 Scottish Grand National at Ayr behind the Paul Nicholls-trained Vicente and was set to reappear at Kelso today.
Seeyouatmidnight was also an excellent three-length third in the 2016 Scottish Grand National at Ayr behind the Paul Nicholls-trained Vicente and was set to reappear at Kelso today.
Runner Age Trainer OR/Weight
Definitly Red 9 165
Edwulf 9 164
Outlander 10 163
Minella Rocco 8 162
Blaklion 9 161
Sub Lieutenant 9 160
Anibale Fly 8 159
The Last Samuri 10 159
Mala Beach 10 158
Valseur Lido 9 158
American 8 157
Total Recall 9 156
Alpha Des Obeaux 8 155
Gold Present 8 155
Perfect Candidate 11 154
Sizing Codelco 9 154
Cause Of Causes 10 153
Shantou Flyer 8 153
Carlingford Lough 12 152
O O Seven 8 152
Tenor Nivernais 11 152
Go Conquer 9 151
Traffic Fluide 9 151
Vicente 9 151
Acapella Bourgeois 8 150
Rathvinden 10 150
Regal Encore 10 150
Tiger Roll 8 150
Vieux Lion Rouge 9 150
A Genie In Abottle 7 149
As De Mee 8 149
Chase The Spud 10 149
Rock The Kasbah 8 149
Seeyouatmidnight 10 149
Warriors Tale 9 149
Bellshill 8 148
Flying Angel 7 148
Gas Line Boy 12 148
Pleasant Company 10 148
The Dutchman 8 148
Beeves 11 147
Saint Are 12 147
Ucello Conti 10 147
Caroles Destrier 10 146
Long House Hall 10 146
Raz De Maree 13 146
Baie Des Iles 8 145
Buywise 11 145
Childrens List 8 145
I Just Know 8 145
Maggio 13 145
Pendra 10 145
Virgilio 9 145
Captain Redbeard 9 144
Houblon Des Obeaux 11 144
Lord Windermere 12 144
Third Intention 11 144
Wild West Wind 9 144
Bless The Wings 13 143
Double Ross 12 143
Final Nudge 9 143
Milansbar 11 143
Morning Assembly 11 143
Delusionofgrandeur 8 142
Road To Riches 11 142
Thunder And Roses 10 142
Vintage Clouds 8 141
Walk in the Mill 8 141
General Principle 9 139
Vic De Touzaine 9 139
Wounded Warrior 9 139
Bonny Kate 8 138
Cogry 9 138
Mysteree 10 138
Sir Mangan 10 138
Splash Of Ginge 10 138
Braqueur Dor 7 137
Minella Daddy 8 137
Pairofbrowneyes 9 137
Relentless Dreamer 9 137
Knock House 9 136
The Young Master 9 135
Alfie Spinner 13 133
Henri Parry Morgan 10 133
Phil's Magic 8 133
Dancing Shadow 9 132
Rogue Angel 10 132
Out Sam 9 130
Krackatoa King 10 127
Goodtoknow 10 126
Definitly Red 9 165
Edwulf 9 164
Outlander 10 163
Minella Rocco 8 162
Blaklion 9 161
Sub Lieutenant 9 160
Anibale Fly 8 159
The Last Samuri 10 159
Mala Beach 10 158
Valseur Lido 9 158
American 8 157
Total Recall 9 156
Alpha Des Obeaux 8 155
Gold Present 8 155
Perfect Candidate 11 154
Sizing Codelco 9 154
Cause Of Causes 10 153
Shantou Flyer 8 153
Carlingford Lough 12 152
O O Seven 8 152
Tenor Nivernais 11 152
Go Conquer 9 151
Traffic Fluide 9 151
Vicente 9 151
Acapella Bourgeois 8 150
Rathvinden 10 150
Regal Encore 10 150
Tiger Roll 8 150
Vieux Lion Rouge 9 150
A Genie In Abottle 7 149
As De Mee 8 149
Chase The Spud 10 149
Rock The Kasbah 8 149
Seeyouatmidnight 10 149
Warriors Tale 9 149
Bellshill 8 148
Flying Angel 7 148
Gas Line Boy 12 148
Pleasant Company 10 148
The Dutchman 8 148
Beeves 11 147
Saint Are 12 147
Ucello Conti 10 147
Caroles Destrier 10 146
Long House Hall 10 146
Raz De Maree 13 146
Baie Des Iles 8 145
Buywise 11 145
Childrens List 8 145
I Just Know 8 145
Maggio 13 145
Pendra 10 145
Virgilio 9 145
Captain Redbeard 9 144
Houblon Des Obeaux 11 144
Lord Windermere 12 144
Third Intention 11 144
Wild West Wind 9 144
Bless The Wings 13 143
Double Ross 12 143
Final Nudge 9 143
Milansbar 11 143
Morning Assembly 11 143
Delusionofgrandeur 8 142
Road To Riches 11 142
Thunder And Roses 10 142
Vintage Clouds 8 141
Walk in the Mill 8 141
General Principle 9 139
Vic De Touzaine 9 139
Wounded Warrior 9 139
Bonny Kate 8 138
Cogry 9 138
Mysteree 10 138
Sir Mangan 10 138
Splash Of Ginge 10 138
Braqueur Dor 7 137
Minella Daddy 8 137
Pairofbrowneyes 9 137
Relentless Dreamer 9 137
Knock House 9 136
The Young Master 9 135
Alfie Spinner 13 133
Henri Parry Morgan 10 133
Phil's Magic 8 133
Dancing Shadow 9 132
Rogue Angel 10 132
Out Sam 9 130
Krackatoa King 10 127
Goodtoknow 10 126
Runner Age Trainer OR/Weight
Definitly Red 9 165
Edwulf 9 164
Outlander 10 163
Minella Rocco 8 162
Blaklion 9 161
Sub Lieutenant 9 160
Anibale Fly 8 159
The Last Samuri 10 159
Mala Beach 10 158
Valseur Lido 9 158
American 8 157
Total Recall 9 156
Alpha Des Obeaux 8 155
Gold Present 8 155
Perfect Candidate 11 154
Sizing Codelco 9 154
Cause Of Causes 10 153
Shantou Flyer 8 153
Carlingford Lough 12 152
O O Seven 8 152
Tenor Nivernais 11 152
Go Conquer 9 151
Traffic Fluide 9 151
Vicente 9 151
Acapella Bourgeois 8 150
Rathvinden 10 150
Regal Encore 10 150
Tiger Roll 8 150
Vieux Lion Rouge 9 150
A Genie In Abottle 7 149
As De Mee 8 149
Chase The Spud 10 149
Rock The Kasbah 8 149
Seeyouatmidnight 10 149
Warriors Tale 9 149
Bellshill 8 148
Flying Angel 7 148
Gas Line Boy 12 148
Pleasant Company 10 148
The Dutchman 8 148
Beeves 11 147
Saint Are 12 147
Ucello Conti 10 147
Caroles Destrier 10 146
Long House Hall 10 146
Raz De Maree 13 146
Baie Des Iles 8 145
Buywise 11 145
Childrens List 8 145
I Just Know 8 145
Maggio 13 145
Pendra 10 145
Virgilio 9 145
Captain Redbeard 9 144
Houblon Des Obeaux 11 144
Lord Windermere 12 144
Third Intention 11 144
Wild West Wind 9 144
Bless The Wings 13 143
Double Ross 12 143
Final Nudge 9 143
Milansbar 11 143
Morning Assembly 11 143
Delusionofgrandeur 8 142
Road To Riches 11 142
Thunder And Roses 10 142
Vintage Clouds 8 141
Walk in the Mill 8 141
General Principle 9 139
Vic De Touzaine 9 139
Wounded Warrior 9 139
Bonny Kate 8 138
Cogry 9 138
Mysteree 10 138
Sir Mangan 10 138
Splash Of Ginge 10 138
Braqueur Dor 7 137
Minella Daddy 8 137
Pairofbrowneyes 9 137
Relentless Dreamer 9 137
Knock House 9 136
The Young Master 9 135
Alfie Spinner 13 133
Henri Parry Morgan 10 133
Phil's Magic 8 133
Dancing Shadow 9 132
Rogue Angel 10 132
Out Sam 9 130
Krackatoa King 10 127
Goodtoknow 10 126
Definitly Red 9 165
Edwulf 9 164
Outlander 10 163
Minella Rocco 8 162
Blaklion 9 161
Sub Lieutenant 9 160
Anibale Fly 8 159
The Last Samuri 10 159
Mala Beach 10 158
Valseur Lido 9 158
American 8 157
Total Recall 9 156
Alpha Des Obeaux 8 155
Gold Present 8 155
Perfect Candidate 11 154
Sizing Codelco 9 154
Cause Of Causes 10 153
Shantou Flyer 8 153
Carlingford Lough 12 152
O O Seven 8 152
Tenor Nivernais 11 152
Go Conquer 9 151
Traffic Fluide 9 151
Vicente 9 151
Acapella Bourgeois 8 150
Rathvinden 10 150
Regal Encore 10 150
Tiger Roll 8 150
Vieux Lion Rouge 9 150
A Genie In Abottle 7 149
As De Mee 8 149
Chase The Spud 10 149
Rock The Kasbah 8 149
Seeyouatmidnight 10 149
Warriors Tale 9 149
Bellshill 8 148
Flying Angel 7 148
Gas Line Boy 12 148
Pleasant Company 10 148
The Dutchman 8 148
Beeves 11 147
Saint Are 12 147
Ucello Conti 10 147
Caroles Destrier 10 146
Long House Hall 10 146
Raz De Maree 13 146
Baie Des Iles 8 145
Buywise 11 145
Childrens List 8 145
I Just Know 8 145
Maggio 13 145
Pendra 10 145
Virgilio 9 145
Captain Redbeard 9 144
Houblon Des Obeaux 11 144
Lord Windermere 12 144
Third Intention 11 144
Wild West Wind 9 144
Bless The Wings 13 143
Double Ross 12 143
Final Nudge 9 143
Milansbar 11 143
Morning Assembly 11 143
Delusionofgrandeur 8 142
Road To Riches 11 142
Thunder And Roses 10 142
Vintage Clouds 8 141
Walk in the Mill 8 141
General Principle 9 139
Vic De Touzaine 9 139
Wounded Warrior 9 139
Bonny Kate 8 138
Cogry 9 138
Mysteree 10 138
Sir Mangan 10 138
Splash Of Ginge 10 138
Braqueur Dor 7 137
Minella Daddy 8 137
Pairofbrowneyes 9 137
Relentless Dreamer 9 137
Knock House 9 136
The Young Master 9 135
Alfie Spinner 13 133
Henri Parry Morgan 10 133
Phil's Magic 8 133
Dancing Shadow 9 132
Rogue Angel 10 132
Out Sam 9 130
Krackatoa King 10 127
Goodtoknow 10 126
Runner Age Trainer OR/Weight
Definitly Red 9 165
Edwulf 9 164
Outlander 10 163
Minella Rocco 8 162
Blaklion 9 161
Sub Lieutenant 9 160
Anibale Fly 8 159
The Last Samuri 10 159
Mala Beach 10 158
Valseur Lido 9 158
American 8 157
Total Recall 9 156
Alpha Des Obeaux 8 155
Gold Present 8 155
Perfect Candidate 11 154
Sizing Codelco 9 154
Cause Of Causes 10 153
Shantou Flyer 8 153
Carlingford Lough 12 152
O O Seven 8 152
Tenor Nivernais 11 152
Go Conquer 9 151
Traffic Fluide 9 151
Vicente 9 151
Acapella Bourgeois 8 150
Rathvinden 10 150
Regal Encore 10 150
Tiger Roll 8 150
Vieux Lion Rouge 9 150
A Genie In Abottle 7 149
As De Mee 8 149
Chase The Spud 10 149
Rock The Kasbah 8 149
Seeyouatmidnight 10 149
Warriors Tale 9 149
Bellshill 8 148
Flying Angel 7 148
Gas Line Boy 12 148
Pleasant Company 10 148
The Dutchman 8 148
Beeves 11 147
Saint Are 12 147
Ucello Conti 10 147
Caroles Destrier 10 146
Long House Hall 10 146
Raz De Maree 13 146
Baie Des Iles 8 145
Buywise 11 145
Childrens List 8 145
I Just Know 8 145
Maggio 13 145
Pendra 10 145
Virgilio 9 145
Captain Redbeard 9 144
Houblon Des Obeaux 11 144
Lord Windermere 12 144
Third Intention 11 144
Wild West Wind 9 144
Bless The Wings 13 143
Double Ross 12 143
Final Nudge 9 143
Milansbar 11 143
Morning Assembly 11 143
Delusionofgrandeur 8 142
Road To Riches 11 142
Thunder And Roses 10 142
Vintage Clouds 8 141
Walk in the Mill 8 141
General Principle 9 139
Vic De Touzaine 9 139
Wounded Warrior 9 139
Bonny Kate 8 138
Cogry 9 138
Mysteree 10 138
Sir Mangan 10 138
Splash Of Ginge 10 138
Braqueur Dor 7 137
Minella Daddy 8 137
Pairofbrowneyes 9 137
Relentless Dreamer 9 137
Knock House 9 136
The Young Master 9 135
Alfie Spinner 13 133
Henri Parry Morgan 10 133
Phil's Magic 8 133
Dancing Shadow 9 132
Rogue Angel 10 132
Out Sam 9 130
Krackatoa King 10 127
Goodtoknow 10 126
Definitly Red 9 165
Edwulf 9 164
Outlander 10 163
Minella Rocco 8 162
Blaklion 9 161
Sub Lieutenant 9 160
Anibale Fly 8 159
The Last Samuri 10 159
Mala Beach 10 158
Valseur Lido 9 158
American 8 157
Total Recall 9 156
Alpha Des Obeaux 8 155
Gold Present 8 155
Perfect Candidate 11 154
Sizing Codelco 9 154
Cause Of Causes 10 153
Shantou Flyer 8 153
Carlingford Lough 12 152
O O Seven 8 152
Tenor Nivernais 11 152
Go Conquer 9 151
Traffic Fluide 9 151
Vicente 9 151
Acapella Bourgeois 8 150
Rathvinden 10 150
Regal Encore 10 150
Tiger Roll 8 150
Vieux Lion Rouge 9 150
A Genie In Abottle 7 149
As De Mee 8 149
Chase The Spud 10 149
Rock The Kasbah 8 149
Seeyouatmidnight 10 149
Warriors Tale 9 149
Bellshill 8 148
Flying Angel 7 148
Gas Line Boy 12 148
Pleasant Company 10 148
The Dutchman 8 148
Beeves 11 147
Saint Are 12 147
Ucello Conti 10 147
Caroles Destrier 10 146
Long House Hall 10 146
Raz De Maree 13 146
Baie Des Iles 8 145
Buywise 11 145
Childrens List 8 145
I Just Know 8 145
Maggio 13 145
Pendra 10 145
Virgilio 9 145
Captain Redbeard 9 144
Houblon Des Obeaux 11 144
Lord Windermere 12 144
Third Intention 11 144
Wild West Wind 9 144
Bless The Wings 13 143
Double Ross 12 143
Final Nudge 9 143
Milansbar 11 143
Morning Assembly 11 143
Delusionofgrandeur 8 142
Road To Riches 11 142
Thunder And Roses 10 142
Vintage Clouds 8 141
Walk in the Mill 8 141
General Principle 9 139
Vic De Touzaine 9 139
Wounded Warrior 9 139
Bonny Kate 8 138
Cogry 9 138
Mysteree 10 138
Sir Mangan 10 138
Splash Of Ginge 10 138
Braqueur Dor 7 137
Minella Daddy 8 137
Pairofbrowneyes 9 137
Relentless Dreamer 9 137
Knock House 9 136
The Young Master 9 135
Alfie Spinner 13 133
Henri Parry Morgan 10 133
Phil's Magic 8 133
Dancing Shadow 9 132
Rogue Angel 10 132
Out Sam 9 130
Krackatoa King 10 127
Goodtoknow 10 126
Correct- The Dutchman is the current 40th.
One or two pointers coming up on Sunday in the rearranged Premier Chase at Kelso.
One or two pointers coming up on Sunday in the rearranged Premier Chase at Kelso.
The 10 chases trend is still working as a 10/10 stat
17/19 had run in 10 races over this season and last, which is currently a 9/9 stat (Silver Birch ran in 9 and the other to miss the trend was Comply Or Die). This is a great indicator of fitness.
The last three winners had never fallen or unseated in a chase
The 'at least 3 runs' during the current season is still a 20/20 stat
Won or placed over 26f + is 14/14
17/19 had run in 10 races over this season and last, which is currently a 9/9 stat (Silver Birch ran in 9 and the other to miss the trend was Comply Or Die). This is a great indicator of fitness.
The last three winners had never fallen or unseated in a chase
The 'at least 3 runs' during the current season is still a 20/20 stat
Won or placed over 26f + is 14/14
Having given those stats however I'm with Mully. If he shows his wellbeing this weekend and is 100% fit on the day of the GN, then Seeyouatmidnight is going to go close. I would also place quite a bit of faith in his jockey now that he has got that Grade 1 monkey off his back. I've always felt Hughes himself didn't feel like he belonged in the top echelons and sometimes rode like that in the big races but hopefully he will have more confidence in himself going forward. Can't do any worse that last year's race!
Will be keeping an eye on seeyouatmidnight tomorrow after the wind surgery. Done really well in Scottish National considering he took a keen hold early on. I have struggled this year to find one who may be well handicapped but also stays and think this could be one. Would like the ground to be soft ideally.
I don't think there any fluke about Anibale Fly either yesterday, yes he was flattered to finish as close to the front two as he did but there was no fluke about beating all the rest as he was fairly prominent the whole way through. Looks as though he'll stay on better ground, don't think he is overly well handicapped but not many are this year.
I don't think there any fluke about Anibale Fly either yesterday, yes he was flattered to finish as close to the front two as he did but there was no fluke about beating all the rest as he was fairly prominent the whole way through. Looks as though he'll stay on better ground, don't think he is overly well handicapped but not many are this year.
They might struggle to get a prep run into Seeyouatmidnight now
Anibale Flyer will go up in the handicap so it will be now or never , stayed on strongly but did take a right fall in Ireland the time before.
Rathvinden won well but he too has jumping flaws.
I thought Tiger Roll would be favourite after his cross country run , don't know which box he does not tick , well weighted , jumps , stays.
Rathvinden won well but he too has jumping flaws.
I thought Tiger Roll would be favourite after his cross country run , don't know which box he does not tick , well weighted , jumps , stays.
You can't really compare X country races with conventional ones. In fact the horse that was 2nd at Cheltenham is no great shakes. I think why people are wary of Tiger Roll is because it was well beaten in last years Irish National and after the race at Cheltenham it was fairly distressed for a while.
I was surprised at that as well 626. Been betting Tiger Roll, few quid every week since last April, and he's the only serious bet I have on the race. I do think he has jumping issues, but not major, and like yourself, ticks plenty of boxes. An extra week to recover from Cheltenham as well is in his favour, as should get the ground in his favour too.
Others I've got bits and pieces on
Cause of Causes
Seeyouatmidnight
Long House Hall
Go Conquer (Stamina?)
Beeves (Good enough)
I would love General Principle or Pairofbrowneyes to get in, but they need it to cut up badly, and will probably head Fairyhouse now.
Others I've got bits and pieces on
Cause of Causes
Seeyouatmidnight
Long House Hall
Go Conquer (Stamina?)
Beeves (Good enough)
I would love General Principle or Pairofbrowneyes to get in, but they need it to cut up badly, and will probably head Fairyhouse now.
I had my eye on Beeves from a couple of years ago for the National as it's such a good jumper but sadly it just doesn't stay well enough.
THE FOLLOWING 17 ENTRIES HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED: DEFINITLY RED (IRE), EDWULF, OUTLANDER (IRE), SUB LIEUTENANT (IRE), MALA BEACH (IRE), AMERICAN (FR), SIZING CODELCO (IRE), O O SEVEN (IRE), TRAFFIC FLUIDE (FR), ROCK THE KASBAH (IRE), FLYING ANGEL (IRE), LONG HOUSE HALL (IRE), CAROLE'S DESTRIER, THIRD INTENTION (IRE), WILD WEST WIND (IRE), MORNING ASSEMBLY (IRE), PAIROFBROWNEYES (IRE).
So it now looks like this until the five-days decs on April 9th.
Horse Age Wgt Owner Trainer
1) MINELLA ROCCO (IRE) 8 11-10 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
2) BLAKLION 9 11-09 Simon Such & Gino Paletta Nigel Twiston-Davies
3) ANIBALE FLY (FR) 8 11-07 J P McManus Tony Martin IRE
4) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 10 11-07 Paul & Clare Rooney Kim Bailey
5) VALSEUR LIDO (FR) 9 11-06 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
6) TOTAL RECALL (IRE) 9 11-04 Slaneyville Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
7) ALPHA DES OBEAUX (FR) 8 11-03 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
8) GOLD PRESENT (IRE) 8 11-03 John & Barbara Cotton Nicky Henderson
9) PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE) 11 11-02 ISL Recruitment Fergal O'Brien
10) CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA) 10 11-01 J P McManus Gordon Elliott IRE
11) SHANTOU FLYER (IRE) 8 11-01 Carl Hinchy Richard Hobson
12) TENOR NIVERNAIS (FR) 11 11-00 Boultbee Brooks Ltd Venetia Williams
13) CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 12 11-00 J P McManus John Kiely IRE
14) VICENTE (FR) 9 10-13 Trevor Hemmings Paul Nicholls
15) GO CONQUER (IRE) 9 10-13 Paul & Clare Rooney Jonjo O'Neill
16) TIGER ROLL (IRE) 8 10-12 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
17) REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 10 10-12 J P McManus Anthony Honeyball
18) VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 9 10-12 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent David Pipe
19) RATHVINDEN (IRE) 10 10-12 Ronnie Bartlett Willie Mullins IRE
20) ACAPELLA BOURGEOIS (FR) 8 10-12 Slaneyville Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
21) A GENIE IN ABOTTLE (IRE) 7 10-11 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
22) CHASE THE SPUD 10 10-11 Christine Banks Fergal O'Brien
23) WARRIORS TALE 9 10-11 Trevor Hemmings Paul Nicholls
24) SEEYOUATMIDNIGHT 10 10-11 Quona Thomson Sandy Thomson
25) AS DE MEE (FR) 8 10-11 The Stewart Family & Judi Dench Paul Nicholls
26) GAS LINE BOY (IRE) 12 10-10 The Three Graces Ian Williams
27) THE DUTCHMAN (IRE) 8 10-10 SprayClad UK Colin Tizzard
28) PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 10 10-10 Malcolm Denmark Willie Mullins IRE
29) BELLSHILL (IRE) 8 10-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
30) UCELLO CONTI (FR) 10 10-09 Simon Munir/Isaac Souede Gordon Elliott IRE
31) SAINT ARE (FR) 12 10-09 David Fox Tom George
32) BEEVES (IRE) 11 10-09 Paul & Clare Rooney Jennie Candlish
33) RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 13 10-08 James Swan Gavin Cromwell IRE
34) I JUST KNOW (IRE) 8 10-07 Michael Scholey & the late Ray Scholey Sue Smith
35) VIRGILIO (FR) 9 10-07 C Edwards, D Futter, A Rushworth Dan Skelton
36) BAIE DES ILES (FR) 7 10-07 Zorka Wentworth Ross O'Sullivan IRE
37) MAGGIO (FR) 13 10-07 Douglas Pryde/James Beaumont Patrick Griffin IRE
38) PENDRA (IRE) 10 10-07 J P McManus Charlie Longsdon
39) BUYWISE (IRE) 11 10-07 T Hywel Jones Evan Williams
40) CHILDRENS LIST (IRE) 8 10-07 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
41) HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR) 11 10-06 Mrs Julian Blackwell Venetia Williams
42) LORD WINDERMERE (IRE) 12 10-06 Dr Ronan Lambe Jim Culloty IRE
43) CAPTAIN REDBEARD (IRE) 9 10-06 Stuart Coltherd Stuart Coltherd
44) BLESS THE WINGS (IRE) 13 10-05 Adrian Butler/S P O'Connor Gordon Elliott IRE
45) MILANSBAR (IRE) 11 10-05 Robert Bothway Neil King
46) FINAL NUDGE (IRE) 9 10-05 Corbett Stud David Dennis
47) DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 12 10-05 Options O Syndicate Nigel Twiston-Davies
48) ROAD TO RICHES (IRE) 11 10-04 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
49) DELUSIONOFGRANDEUR (IRE) 8 10-04 McGoldrick Racing 3 Sue Smith
50) THUNDER AND ROSES (IRE) 10 10-04 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
51) WALK IN THE MILL (FR) 8 10-03 Baroness Harding Robert Walford
52) VINTAGE CLOUDS (IRE) 8 10-03 Trevor Hemmings Sue Smith
53) WOUNDED WARRIOR (IRE) 9 10-01 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
54) GENERAL PRINCIPLE (IRE) 9 10-01 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
55) VIC DE TOUZAINE (FR) 9 10-01 Andrew Brooks & G Moore Venetia Williams
56) SPLASH OF GINGE 10 10-00 John Neild Nigel Twiston-Davies
57) BONNY KATE (IRE) 8 10-00 Patricia Hunt Noel Meade IRE
58) COGRY 9 10-00 Graham and Alison Jelley Nigel Twiston-Davies
59) SIR MANGAN (IRE) 10 10-00 Frank McAleavy Dan Skelton
60) MYSTEREE (IRE) 10 10-00 Lynne Maclennan Michael Scudamore
61) MINELLA DADDY (IRE) 8 9-13 Roddy Owen & Paul Fullagar Peter Bowen
62) BRAQUEUR D'OR (FR) 7 9-13 Corsellis & Seyfried Paul Nicholls
63) RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 9 9013 Nigel Morris Rebecca Curtis
64) KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 9 9012 Tim Leslie Donald McCain
65) THE YOUNG MASTER 9 9011 Mike Burbidge & The Old Masters Neil Mulholland
66) HENRI PARRY MORGAN 10 9-09 Ednyfed & Elizabeth Morgan Peter Bowen
67) PHIL'S MAGIC (IRE) 8 9-09 Lyreen Syndicate Tony Martin IRE
68) ALFIE SPINNER (IRE) 13 9-09 Alan Beard & Brian Beard Kerry Lee
69) DANCING SHADOW (IRE) 9 9-08 The Dancing Shadows Victor Dartnall
70) ROGUE ANGEL (IRE) 10 9-08 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
71) OUT SAM 9 9-06 D Charlesworth Gordon Elliott IRE
72) KRACKATOA KING 10 9-03 J Harrison Lee & T Howard P'ship Kerry Lee
73) GOODTOKNOW 10 9-02 Burling Lee MacEchern Nolan Potter Kerry Lee
73 entries remain following March 20 scratchings' deadline
27 Irish-trained
Horse Age Wgt Owner Trainer
1) MINELLA ROCCO (IRE) 8 11-10 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
2) BLAKLION 9 11-09 Simon Such & Gino Paletta Nigel Twiston-Davies
3) ANIBALE FLY (FR) 8 11-07 J P McManus Tony Martin IRE
4) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 10 11-07 Paul & Clare Rooney Kim Bailey
5) VALSEUR LIDO (FR) 9 11-06 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
6) TOTAL RECALL (IRE) 9 11-04 Slaneyville Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
7) ALPHA DES OBEAUX (FR) 8 11-03 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
8) GOLD PRESENT (IRE) 8 11-03 John & Barbara Cotton Nicky Henderson
9) PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE) 11 11-02 ISL Recruitment Fergal O'Brien
10) CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA) 10 11-01 J P McManus Gordon Elliott IRE
11) SHANTOU FLYER (IRE) 8 11-01 Carl Hinchy Richard Hobson
12) TENOR NIVERNAIS (FR) 11 11-00 Boultbee Brooks Ltd Venetia Williams
13) CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 12 11-00 J P McManus John Kiely IRE
14) VICENTE (FR) 9 10-13 Trevor Hemmings Paul Nicholls
15) GO CONQUER (IRE) 9 10-13 Paul & Clare Rooney Jonjo O'Neill
16) TIGER ROLL (IRE) 8 10-12 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
17) REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 10 10-12 J P McManus Anthony Honeyball
18) VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 9 10-12 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent David Pipe
19) RATHVINDEN (IRE) 10 10-12 Ronnie Bartlett Willie Mullins IRE
20) ACAPELLA BOURGEOIS (FR) 8 10-12 Slaneyville Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
21) A GENIE IN ABOTTLE (IRE) 7 10-11 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
22) CHASE THE SPUD 10 10-11 Christine Banks Fergal O'Brien
23) WARRIORS TALE 9 10-11 Trevor Hemmings Paul Nicholls
24) SEEYOUATMIDNIGHT 10 10-11 Quona Thomson Sandy Thomson
25) AS DE MEE (FR) 8 10-11 The Stewart Family & Judi Dench Paul Nicholls
26) GAS LINE BOY (IRE) 12 10-10 The Three Graces Ian Williams
27) THE DUTCHMAN (IRE) 8 10-10 SprayClad UK Colin Tizzard
28) PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 10 10-10 Malcolm Denmark Willie Mullins IRE
29) BELLSHILL (IRE) 8 10-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
30) UCELLO CONTI (FR) 10 10-09 Simon Munir/Isaac Souede Gordon Elliott IRE
31) SAINT ARE (FR) 12 10-09 David Fox Tom George
32) BEEVES (IRE) 11 10-09 Paul & Clare Rooney Jennie Candlish
33) RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 13 10-08 James Swan Gavin Cromwell IRE
34) I JUST KNOW (IRE) 8 10-07 Michael Scholey & the late Ray Scholey Sue Smith
35) VIRGILIO (FR) 9 10-07 C Edwards, D Futter, A Rushworth Dan Skelton
36) BAIE DES ILES (FR) 7 10-07 Zorka Wentworth Ross O'Sullivan IRE
37) MAGGIO (FR) 13 10-07 Douglas Pryde/James Beaumont Patrick Griffin IRE
38) PENDRA (IRE) 10 10-07 J P McManus Charlie Longsdon
39) BUYWISE (IRE) 11 10-07 T Hywel Jones Evan Williams
40) CHILDRENS LIST (IRE) 8 10-07 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
41) HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR) 11 10-06 Mrs Julian Blackwell Venetia Williams
42) LORD WINDERMERE (IRE) 12 10-06 Dr Ronan Lambe Jim Culloty IRE
43) CAPTAIN REDBEARD (IRE) 9 10-06 Stuart Coltherd Stuart Coltherd
44) BLESS THE WINGS (IRE) 13 10-05 Adrian Butler/S P O'Connor Gordon Elliott IRE
45) MILANSBAR (IRE) 11 10-05 Robert Bothway Neil King
46) FINAL NUDGE (IRE) 9 10-05 Corbett Stud David Dennis
47) DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 12 10-05 Options O Syndicate Nigel Twiston-Davies
48) ROAD TO RICHES (IRE) 11 10-04 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
49) DELUSIONOFGRANDEUR (IRE) 8 10-04 McGoldrick Racing 3 Sue Smith
50) THUNDER AND ROSES (IRE) 10 10-04 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
51) WALK IN THE MILL (FR) 8 10-03 Baroness Harding Robert Walford
52) VINTAGE CLOUDS (IRE) 8 10-03 Trevor Hemmings Sue Smith
53) WOUNDED WARRIOR (IRE) 9 10-01 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
54) GENERAL PRINCIPLE (IRE) 9 10-01 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
55) VIC DE TOUZAINE (FR) 9 10-01 Andrew Brooks & G Moore Venetia Williams
56) SPLASH OF GINGE 10 10-00 John Neild Nigel Twiston-Davies
57) BONNY KATE (IRE) 8 10-00 Patricia Hunt Noel Meade IRE
58) COGRY 9 10-00 Graham and Alison Jelley Nigel Twiston-Davies
59) SIR MANGAN (IRE) 10 10-00 Frank McAleavy Dan Skelton
60) MYSTEREE (IRE) 10 10-00 Lynne Maclennan Michael Scudamore
61) MINELLA DADDY (IRE) 8 9-13 Roddy Owen & Paul Fullagar Peter Bowen
62) BRAQUEUR D'OR (FR) 7 9-13 Corsellis & Seyfried Paul Nicholls
63) RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 9 9013 Nigel Morris Rebecca Curtis
64) KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 9 9012 Tim Leslie Donald McCain
65) THE YOUNG MASTER 9 9011 Mike Burbidge & The Old Masters Neil Mulholland
66) HENRI PARRY MORGAN 10 9-09 Ednyfed & Elizabeth Morgan Peter Bowen
67) PHIL'S MAGIC (IRE) 8 9-09 Lyreen Syndicate Tony Martin IRE
68) ALFIE SPINNER (IRE) 13 9-09 Alan Beard & Brian Beard Kerry Lee
69) DANCING SHADOW (IRE) 9 9-08 The Dancing Shadows Victor Dartnall
70) ROGUE ANGEL (IRE) 10 9-08 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
71) OUT SAM 9 9-06 D Charlesworth Gordon Elliott IRE
72) KRACKATOA KING 10 9-03 J Harrison Lee & T Howard P'ship Kerry Lee
73) GOODTOKNOW 10 9-02 Burling Lee MacEchern Nolan Potter Kerry Lee
73 entries remain following March 20 scratchings' deadline
27 Irish-trained
An awful lot of familiar Aintree horses left.
Shortlist now
Baie Des Iles
Rathvinden
Tiger Roll
Regal Encore
Road To Riches
Milansbar
Shortlist now
Baie Des Iles
Rathvinden
Tiger Roll
Regal Encore
Road To Riches
Milansbar
Sadly another nail in the coffin of the GN thanks to Smith. As it stands just 17lbs between the top weight and bottom weight. A race now dominated by big trainers and owners on their ego trips. Quality much better ? Just look at some of the dross that he has given weights to so as they will be able to run and have their day out.
What has Phil Smith done wrong then Bindaree?
I didn't see much wrong with it this year .
I didn't see much wrong with it this year .
It is a very uninspiring line up .
Wounded Warrior & Thunder And Roses run in almost every staying chase in Ireland
The Last Samurai , Ucello , Vieux , Saint Are , Lord Windermere , Cause , Gas Line , Houblon , Pleasant Company , Vicente .....all had their chance wont figure.
Wounded Warrior & Thunder And Roses run in almost every staying chase in Ireland
The Last Samurai , Ucello , Vieux , Saint Are , Lord Windermere , Cause , Gas Line , Houblon , Pleasant Company , Vicente .....all had their chance wont figure.
The damage has been done in previous years by pandering to big owners by allowing the so-called better horses to carry less than the rating they have to the detriment of the good stayers who contest the other long distance chases. Of the 40 that are guaranteed a run 33% are owned by just 3 owners. A lot of the horses which he tried to attract weren't suited to the race and the prize money is the biggest attraction nowadays anyway.
Is there a thread with a list of DOUBTFULs? Which 10+ horses are coming out for Vintage Clouds to get in?
"Of the 40 that are guaranteed a run 33% are owned by just 3 owners"
That's a telling figure
That's a telling figure
I think this is one of the least inspiring Nationals I can remember-probably due in part to the reasons highlighted below by Bindaree
Looking at some of the entries it does make you wonder if they are just running to stop others from getting a run and they don't have realistic chances-a comment made by some Irish observers about last year's Irish National
Really struggling to find a shortlist of any substance this year.
Looking at some of the entries it does make you wonder if they are just running to stop others from getting a run and they don't have realistic chances-a comment made by some Irish observers about last year's Irish National
Really struggling to find a shortlist of any substance this year.
surely if there are loads of horses running with no realistic chance of winning it should be easy to come up with a shortlist?
Agreed it is a very uninspiring line up ......not exactly 1994 with 3 Gold Cup winners, Whitbread winner , Foxhunter winner , Scottish National winner.
Was any reason given for The Dutchman going from on the bridle to totally going up and down on the spot at Haydock?
I do think the 2 women with rides on Milansbar and Baie Des Iles have a very good chance of creating history in this average field
Was any reason given for The Dutchman going from on the bridle to totally going up and down on the spot at Haydock?
I do think the 2 women with rides on Milansbar and Baie Des Iles have a very good chance of creating history in this average field
said I was struggling to get a shortlist of any substance
I think I have a couple with chances but we are still over 3 weeks away and have little indication of the likely ground
I think I have a couple with chances but we are still over 3 weeks away and have little indication of the likely ground
Or 2002 sixtwosix !! I think The Dutchman was supposed to have bled.
I don't think it's a case of "loads of horses with no realistic chance of winning". The problem is with horses such as Go Conquer who Jonjo O'Neill doesn't seem too sure if it will stay. Well if he doesn't know who is supposed to and why waste peoples money finding out if it doesn't. Why didn't he try the horse over an appropriate distance before entering it. He's not the only one. That's the problem with the National nowadays these trainers and owners throw a load of darts at the board and hope one hits the bull !!
1 Minella Rocco - some good form, will stay but very dodgy jumper.
2 blaklion - didn't seem to quite stay last year, higher rating and carrying more weight won't help this time around.
3 anibale fly - career best performance last time, officially 9lb well in after that. Shapes as though will stay, bad fall 2 starts ago but jumped fine either side of that.
4 The last samuri - carrying more weight than when a gallant second two years ago, enjoys the fences but too high in the handicap.
5 valseur lido - well weighted on some old form, not sure he still retains ability and also a doubtful stayer.
Going to go through the whole card 5 at a time, as much as for my benefit as for anyone else but feel free to disagree. Struggling for a strong opinion this year.
2 blaklion - didn't seem to quite stay last year, higher rating and carrying more weight won't help this time around.
3 anibale fly - career best performance last time, officially 9lb well in after that. Shapes as though will stay, bad fall 2 starts ago but jumped fine either side of that.
4 The last samuri - carrying more weight than when a gallant second two years ago, enjoys the fences but too high in the handicap.
5 valseur lido - well weighted on some old form, not sure he still retains ability and also a doubtful stayer.
Going to go through the whole card 5 at a time, as much as for my benefit as for anyone else but feel free to disagree. Struggling for a strong opinion this year.
Can't see anything to disagree with your assessments so far. I did say "so far" lol
Bad rain here in the north west. Hope it's not a bog, being on Blaklion. My other main hope The Last Samuri. Think both could easily go very well indeed!
The ground is obviously a vital factor. My personal preference is to take proven stayers with light weights regardless but if its soft or worse then I just couldn't be considering those carrying 11 soneplus. I adored Many Clouds and consider him an exceptional national winner, bucking all the trends at the time. But despite him having soft ground form he walked home in 16th in 2016 carrying 11st 10.
I like Milansbar, Vintage Clouds and Gas line Boy as although they have soft and heavy form I think they could be competitive on better ground judging on their sires preferences. Raz de maree would also be there on the list but only on soft or worse.
I would prefer a bog because Raz de Maree would be a great bet, even if 13, very few others would be capable of finishing let alone winning
The weather doesn't look very inspiring for the next 16-18 days. Aintree week it's less that 10 degrees and overcast every day. There will be damp and juice in the ground each morning I'd say.
I'm warming to Seeyouatmidnight, Raz De Maree, I Just Know & Milansbar. Would like to see Vintage Clouds get in but I don't think there will be quite enough defectors. Irish National will tell us plenty on Monday.
I'm warming to Seeyouatmidnight, Raz De Maree, I Just Know & Milansbar. Would like to see Vintage Clouds get in but I don't think there will be quite enough defectors. Irish National will tell us plenty on Monday.
I think I Just Know may have been handicapped out of it, put up a stone from the Catterick win
I really can't see how Seeyouatmidnight can win after it's Newbury run, it surely needs massive improvement in too short a time. Also can you really imagine Milansbar as a National winner, it just hasn't got the form in major races. It would need a lot of non finishers to prevail I think.
Seeyouatmidnight did little last year nor on run recently.....another one to cross off.
Milansbar as a National winner, it just hasn't got the form in major races.
It did win the same race as One For Arthur .....and won it easier .
It did win the same race as One For Arthur .....and won it easier .
and would have won a Midlands National but for pilot error
Jumped superbly for Bryony at Warwick and she got the pace right too
Haven't heard whether she will be riding at Aintree
Haven't heard whether she will be riding at Aintree
Nothing it beat in the Warwick race would ever threaten to win a GN and most probably none of them would even get in the race, plus it's been well beaten twice since.
Mind it can only finish as Baie De Iles is going to win
True , but all these staying chasers have pulled ups and also rans in their list.
Milansbar a big horse who will carry no weight and likes to be handy , should go well for a long way at least.
Milansbar a big horse who will carry no weight and likes to be handy , should go well for a long way at least.
It didn't win the same race as One for Arthur the previous year because it was well beaten by One for Arthur. You can't compare the two, one was an up-and-coming young horse and the other is a veteran who has never reached the same heights.
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