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And me!!
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forum plunge chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Im on at great prices too, still cant believe it is 50s, but praying for a dry week-good ground please!!!!!
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Still not certain to get in .I think he could well be either last one in or first to miss out.
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One of my top 3
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I would be amazed if he doesn't get in, I also like Cause of Causes and I would say his chances are about 50:50 or 60:40 against. I'm sure the cut will come at 10st 1 or 10st 2
don't forget that there are 2 more declaration stages, tomorrow and Friday. I'm guessing we will know a lot more tomorrow lunchtime let's hope this thread is just one big love-in come 5.30 on Saturday! |
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He's in
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Annoying that he has made cut in National as he would have been banker bet in 3 mile handicap hurdle after his unlucky race at Cheltenham..
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Why so dismissive of his chances in the big one Sultan? And I think its a bit daft to say its 'annoying' he got into a race of this importance. He's got a great chance and connections must be delighted.
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I had serious bet at Cheltenham and thought he was unlucky. Better handicapped over hurdles and thought the 3 mile handicap hurdle at Aintree was well within his compass. Have had bit on for National because obviously well and has outside chance. Much prefer Saint Are for National .Connections obviously want crack at million pound race. Basically think he is a well handicapped hurdler and fairly handicapped chaser and think to win National bit more required.
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Needs it to dry out, this one. Great chance if it does.
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Why does the ground need to dry out for this horse?
He was beaten 14length by Thistlecrack on heavy back in January. Against any other horse that would sound poor, but would Many Clouds have got any closer under the same weight conditions? I doubt it....well not much closer. TRP has staying influences which indicate he should see the trip out, so strike will the iron is hot. I'm assuming the entries for the handicaps on Saturday were back ups in case he still needed a few to come out on Thursday? Obituaries of winning Grand National owners are published in the national press.....winning the Gaskells Handicap (Grade 3) doesn't carry the same kudos. |
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Exactly lufc. He will have countless 3m Handicap Hurdles to choose from next season... there is only one Grand National and everything is teed up for him to have his best possible chance this year.
I think he is versatile with regards to the ground... probably does prefer better ground if you had the choice, but its certainly not going to be a bog and anything like soft or a bit better will be fine for him imo. |
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He needs to jump.
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CCM
Turftrax have the meter stick reading as 5.8 yesterday. It was 5.7 last Thursday so marginally better ground now. However, the going has "changed" from good to soft, soft in places last week to soft, good to soft in places today!! Bizarrely, if you look at the Aintree Turftrax map the National course appears to be largely good to soft with some good ground and some soft ground. Make of that what you will |
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Yes, he needs to jump. And I'm sure he'll take to the Aintree fences alright...I even say he's likely to prefer them (so long as the jockey doesn't push him) as he can get into a better than at Cheltenham.
Cue Card didn't win the Gold Cup....he fell and he's a class horse Don Cossack didn't win the King George...he fell and he's a class horse All horses need to be able to jump clean. |
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Sewter, I looked at turftrax earlier, and couldnt make any sense of it! Hardly any yellow at all so hard to see how soft is really appearing in the description! No yellow whatsoever on the Mildmay course and as much good as good to soft. Its very hard to see there being much soft in the description if you look at that combined with the forecast.
I think Good to Soft (soft in places) is the most likely. |
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Agree dunlaying. Jumping my biggest worry with him.. he does tend to get low at a few.
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Pineau de re whacked a couple 2 years ago.
TRP ran just as good a race as Pineau did at Cheltenham the run before the National. |
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Not sure he ran just as good a race as Pineau mate. He only got beaten about a head and in another stride or two, would have won!
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imo TRP didnt get the best of rides at Cheltenham finishing well from off the pace
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Trevor Whelan rides him. I'm going for one of my biggest wins on this horse now.
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Tipped up by Ben Lightfoot.
If your not on yet take the 50s quickish. |
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hard to believe it got in by 1!!! thank the good lord for that, I can't get over how close it was, this race is changing every year, bottom weight is rated 6lb higher than last year. Even 5 years ago Romford would have been in the top half of the card and carrying over 11st
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Alas Brian Hughes now up top..
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Well it'd make a 'story' if it goes and wins, given Whelan's been jocked off.
Poor form from connections though. |
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connections not impressed with jockey at cheltenham
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That was Leighton Aspell.
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Gutted about Whelan losing the ride, trying to console myself with the fact that at least Hughes is a Malton based jockey.
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jesus if this isnt the story of the day now
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Back on board-WHELAN
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