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What a shocking ride from Richie McLernon
What a shocking ride from Richie McLernon
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to answer red adair the two fatalities were very unfortunate acc to pete brought down and synch breaking a leg while running loose the pace of the race has increased due to the classier type of horse now entering the horses going quicker resulting in more falls with making the fences more inviting to jump what they should do is add 2 inches to all the plain fences making the horses jump more carefully and therefore slowing the pace of the race i own 2 horses and love them to bits but they are bred to race and the national is the greatest race of all they cannot do any more than they have done to make it safer
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I get what you're saying boy wonder, and I know what happened to Pete and Synch could have happened in any race, but to see so many fallers in one race is sickening.
It looked, as it does most years, like a battlefield. At least, unlike a battlefield, the vets are on hand quickly to treat the horses, or end their suffering. |
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i thought there might be a small mention about it in yesterdays post--not a thing -obviously everything else overshadowed it
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for the record i am far more concerned with the death of synchronized and pete that mclernons lack of strength. id have 24 runners max and no dropside fences as they are simply unfair on the horses. they cant mind read a drop on landing side. id say this would half the casualties.
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He hit Sunnyhill Boy twice on the run in, who then became unbalanced.He put his whip down got the horse balanced, that cost him the race...but what else could he do? Maybe if he hadn't whipped him in the first place? Anyway, their split-second decisions, give the guy a break.
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Today's RP had a small article about McLernon's ride in the National. He said he believes he did nothing wrong ! He said he put the whip down as the horse had become unbalanced and he reckons he was not responding to it (after hitting him a whole 2 times!). He also said he did know the other horse was there but thought the horse was responding better to hands and heels!!
I guess he wasn't going to say he f****d up but no matter what way you look at it he was totally outridden in the finish....he wasn't exactly balanced himself and looked as if he couldn't pull the whip through to the other hand?? As a jockey how many real chances do you get to win a national....McLernon threw his chance away |
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When the BBC showed the camera angle from inside the course, it looked to me like he thought he had it won and realised too late that NC was coming again. He fecked up plain and simple, I'm only a casual punter so I'm not qualified to analyse him as a jockey, I agree with Markphisto he threw his chance away and I'm sure he feels worse than anyone who lost money on the race.
I think any jockey from now on will ride out for all they are worth from the elbow in future, even if 10 lengths clear. |
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Souldancer, thats what I thought happened aswell. It looks like the horse got momentarily unbalanced on the run-in, which is why we need to see the head on view. If this is what happened, then the jockey did the right thing. You cant whip a horse when it is finding it's balance.
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Sintonian, you're right. SHB was 'momentarily' unbalanced. But when he put the whip down SHB had shifted over to the rail and had that to run against. There was still time to use the whip again if he chose to do so. One extra strike even could have been enough to win. The fact that he didn't is something he will no doubt regret, probably for the rest of his career
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Depends what his outlook on life is. It probably wont be in his top 10 death bed regrets. Its only a horse race when all is said and done.
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He rode a brilliant race for 4m 3f and 110yds.
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Maybe its just another horse race to you Angel but doubt AP McCoy would have agreed with you before he won it. National Hunt jockeys see it as the ultimate test and is the one they all want to win. To them its like winning Olympic Gold, did you see the emotion shown by Daryl Jacob. Then there's also their percentage of the £500K winners prize to consider too
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McCoy would not have won on sunny - he would not have let it jump the fences like richie -
Hed have been pushing it for the last 2 miles - if it was still standing . Lets remember the horses THE GREAT AP has fycked up on -- denman , best mate , and very nearly on master minded . So why would he have won on the less classy SHB ??? Richie rode a cracking race up until the last 75yds , and he knows it . |
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i thought richie gave SHB a perfect ride,but that is another reason why losing the way he did is so hard to take.
zealot. SHB would have been there at the business end regardless of what jockey was on him. |
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agree,sunnyhillboy does nothing once he hits the front just idles thats why he looked out on his feet not a case of hitting the horse,no amount of whip would make it go any faster,just look at its previous races,its been odds on numerous times while being beaten,i had money on it and dont blame the jockey just one of those things,there is a lot of idiots on here who say hit the horse to get it going but that just wasnt the case with shb it just idles when it hits the front.
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just watched the replay,he was pushing all the way horse was just not giving everything,you could see neptune stuck his head out sunny didnt,jockey not to blame
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When has it been odds on and been beaten? Also "forged clear" on his previous start at Cheltenham. I think the jockey is being a bit hard done by because the horse did become unbalanced but he could have driven the horse stronger. He only became really animated very close to the line when it was too late.
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Absolute bolliks - so why did he try to ride it when he seen the grey coming on his outside with 5 to go ???? I like the lad , but hand on heart , he wishes he could ride that last 50 yards again . Are you saying he'd ride it EXACTLY the same again ????? I HOPE NOT !!!111 |
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Watch the race again. RM hits Sunnyhillboy which sends him careering into the rail: clearly the horse was knackered and putting the stick down was the right thing to do.
Stop press: Crisp might have beaten Red Rum if Pitman hadn't used the stick. And probably Seabass would have done even better had Katie Walsh not unbalanced him by using the whip. Would Sunnyhillboy have won had McLernon done a better job of holding him together but I'm not sure how you'd prove it, but certainly the "belt the horse's arse off" pocket talkers are wrong. |
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Ha Ha, never heard so much s h i t in all my life!
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@Fantastic Light -- you are right, of course. JP must have bribed the BBC to edit the race footage to make it look like a tired Sunnyhillboy veered left into the rails when McLernon hit him.
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all this and the horse was injured and still not back at the stables, some of you have been very harsh and yes i backed SHB
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all this and the horse was injured and still not back at the stables, some of you have been very harsh and yes i backed SHB
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look he should have hit him more,regardless off the horse being dead on his feet,idiling or anything else.
nobody would be complaining then,even if neptune still won |
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FWIW Richie can take heart that his ride from the last was nothing like as bad as Liam Cooper's on Clan Royal in 2004, for the same connections, where "sat nav" failed.
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i backed that as well
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Worse pocket talking thread and animal cruelty thread I have ever seen
 Mind you I backed Neptune Collonges. Mclernon is best 10st jockey riding IMHO |
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Sunnyhillboy is set to return to training at Jonjo O'Neill's stables in the next month following his recovery from a serious leg injury.
The nine-year-old damaged his tendon when he was caught on the line by Neptune Collonges in the John Smith's Grand National at Aintree in April. The horse was operated on by vets in Liverpool and has been recuperating at his owner JP McManus's Martinstown Stud in County Limerick. "Everything is grand with him. He's still at Martinstown but hopefully he's due back in the next month or so. All the reports are good," O'Neill told At The Races. "It was nasty enough. When the infection gets in under the tendon sheath it can be very dangerous, but he was in the right place at Aintree. "They did a great job and we've got to be thankful to them." |
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So the horse was injured during the race...
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How come none of us knew about the injury?
Communication Breakdown....... |
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 Must say very funny some of the comments.Having had much to say on Mclernon myself after that cruel finish,came to the conclusion that I got everything right but broke one golden rule. Never back duff jockeys,irrespective of the horses chances. If you look at Mclernons profile on the racing post under big race wins,its totally blank. So we can moan all we like,but we all backed a decent animal that should have won but the jockey wasn't up to it. Jacob is different class and made the difference,thats why he rides for nicholls |
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how fickle some people are, everyone complements Katie Walsh on a great ride to finish 3rd and the poor divil gets slated for getting mugged. For a small horse like sunnyhillboy to even get around aintree is an achievement.
b1ggots |
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Yeh we are aren't we?.
But at least instead of calling him every name under the sun I just gave an honest factual assessment of his abilities. Useless c**t. |
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If this thread was about a poor jockey i'd agree. So this thread is about a poor jockey getting mugged on the line of a national. If everyone agrees he's poor it certainly wasn't a bad ride on ability. Its just after the fact maulla.
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Big race wins 0
As said my error. |