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By:
strontium
When: 15 Apr 12 00:31
Not sure where 13 comes from - I just watched the BBC footage and I count 7 though there are a few seconds where NC is off camera.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Apr 12 00:52
I also thought that McLernon had perhaps glanced to the big screen and saw himself pulling away with Neptunes and Seabass looking laboured behind, and he knew Sunnyhillboy would be the strongest finisher in the race,. Somewhere in his head he thought it was all over and nothing would catch him. The biggest moment of his life/career gone forever. A bit like the jockey on Zenyatta!
By:
wellchief
When: 15 Apr 12 01:27
Was the ride on Tatanen a disgrace? Andrew Thornton placed his mount in such a position that he was behind a wall of horses and if one fell in front of him he'd be screwed. Am I moaning about that? No. If Sunnyhillboy had stayed on the inside and been brought down by State of Play would you be bashing McLernon as a disgrace?

The National is such a lottery its a bonus just to get round, so anyone calling a ride in the National where the jockey got round and lost out in a finish by a head as a disgrace is laughable.

Yes, Jacob was stronger in the finish, but if AP was on board Sunnyhillboy would be near fav and not a 16/1 shot. The main thing is Sunnyhillboy will be back to fight another day next year;others weren't so lucky
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Apr 12 01:32
Wellchief

All those riders you have mentioned would have used there whip to keep their horses going from the elbow, especially when you have already stayed on past everything to take the lead.
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 15 Apr 12 01:38
posing and showboating and thinking two or three hits is enough, we see it day in day out on the Flat. Shane Kelly has perfected the technique, Joe Fanning is the master of tickle it twice and hands and heels. They are actually trained by Richard Perham in the apprentice school to use the stick only as a last resort....it's costing punters thousands every day. It's a total rarity if a jockey uses up his 7 hits these days on the Flat.
By:
hawkwing02
When: 15 Apr 12 07:41
Thought it was a weak finish seemed to panic and could not get himself balanced hence sunnyhill lugging to the left although it could have been down to tiredness
By:
sintonian
When: 15 Apr 12 09:52
think you need to see the head on view. looked like SHB got slightly unbalanced for a stride or two when he was close to the rail. Anyone confirm that?
By:
seanog36
When: 15 Apr 12 12:38
Richie had an excellent race, just had a very poor last 100 yards. Dont know whether horse emptied or whether he thought he had won it. He has riden this horse when third in irish national.
I had a considerable each way bet on this horse too, however it was also my opinion that the price was higher due to Richie being the jockey, and that is a factor that should be taken into account when deciding whether a horse is value or not.
By:
GoldCupWinner
When: 15 Apr 12 13:01
The horse lugged to the rail after the 2nd whip in the home straight. I can only think that as the reason he stopped using it. I was a backer as well :-(
By:
wellchief
When: 15 Apr 12 13:07
Can't really disagree with any of the seanog
By:
kingrat
When: 15 Apr 12 13:17
mclernon got what he drserved,he knowns in his hearts of hearts he shoud have won.the fact is everyone who backed the horse knew mclernon was a serious negative,he blew it!
By:
Fantastic Light
When: 15 Apr 12 13:42
He's gave it a great ride, delivered him to jump the last in front and then simply lost it by thinking he had it in the bag.
I'm gutted as backed him to win £3.5k and it's fair to say any other top jockey, especially McCoy would have driven that horse out to the line with several more cracks of the persuader and won by five lengths or more! It's easy to say now but if Synchronised RIP hadn't run which was a questionable decision for a sketchy jumper, then JP would still have his Gold Cup winner for next season and the winner of the Grand National and we would'nt all be on here cursing our extremely bad luck. such fine lines!
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Apr 12 14:47
I probably would not have backed Sunnyhillboy at 13/2 which is price he might have been with AP on him.

McLernon did all the hard work by plotting the horse safely into contention and produced him perfectly but perhaps the moment got the better of him, he must have got stage fright with everything that was happening, the crowd and the ultimate panic of almost being there!
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Apr 12 14:49
Has he given any kind of interview since then?

Back at Market Rasen today.
By:
Fantastic Light
When: 15 Apr 12 15:01
I'd already backed him at 70/1 on here about two months before the race. Must admit at the time I thought McCoy would be on him as I didn't think there was any chance of Synchronised making the line up. It would be really interesting to see what McLernon has to say about it. Wonder if he'll hold his hands up admit it blew it in the last 150 yards.
By:
swordsone
When: 15 Apr 12 15:11
well chief wat a first class plonker you are i backed the winer richie blew it big time. i was talkin to mates the night before the race every pundit said syc wouldn't jump round.sunny hill wud hav won if weights went up and tony on board wat wer they thinking he shud hav been kept 4 punchestown
By:
Fantastic Light
When: 15 Apr 12 15:22
Have to agree swordsone, it was an awful decision. Synchronised would of been a near certainty at Punchestown.
By:
lucky22
When: 15 Apr 12 15:28
Produced the horse perfectly until the moment where he needed to drive him through the post. Unbelievable. Like others backed him at 75s...can't help but feel sorry for ourselves..and to be there watching as well.. A few whips towards the line would have changed the title of this thread to "What a Fantastic Ride from Richie McLernon".
By:
RedAdair
When: 15 Apr 12 15:57
You are spot on with your comments there, lucky22.
By:
sintonian
When: 15 Apr 12 17:10
Have any of you seen the head on view ?
By:
sintonian
When: 15 Apr 12 17:11
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well chief wat a first class plonker you are i backed the winer richie blew it big time. i was talkin to mates the night before the race every pundit said syc wouldn't jump round.sunny hill wud hav won if weights went up and tony on board wat wer they thinking he shud hav been kept 4 punchestown

aftertiming,cretin,methinks.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Apr 12 18:43
did Sunny hit 1.01 ??
By:
The Insurance Man
When: 15 Apr 12 19:19
1.03 was the lowest price matched
By:
The Insurance Man
When: 15 Apr 12 19:19
1.03 was the lowest price matched
By:
OnTheSnaff
When: 15 Apr 12 20:56
i dont think he will ever live that ride down to be honest,a case of "what if" for as long as he lives
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Apr 12 21:07
The fact that he has not spoke publicly about almost winning the GN speaks volumes. His brain must have seized up to not smack SHB home.
By:
strontium
When: 15 Apr 12 21:16
It wouldn't be the first time in sport that pressure caused someone to crack or do something strange.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Apr 12 21:55
thanks tim


Had 50 on him and layed at evens on my phone, at home i always put up a 1.05 lay. Plain


RE the ride, isnt that just him ???

Personally i dont think he did much wrong, to deliver a horse who is not the cleanest jumper  clear a few yards is worth some credit. just got out speeded, on another day he would had won......
By:
kingrat
When: 15 Apr 12 22:08
jockeymanship is not just about getting a horse in a position to win,how to ride a finish is paramount.mclernon is incompetant and fcked it up.he shound stick to mickey mouse meetings and mucking out horse **** for o neil.
By:
bigben the horseman
When: 15 Apr 12 22:09
seanog 36.

how can u factor into your 16/1 on sunnyhillboy that mclernon will not use his whip on the run in? its impossible to do that! we're not exepecting a tony mccoy ride just a competent ride with a jockey using his whip on the run in!
By:
bigben the horseman
When: 15 Apr 12 22:09
seanog 36.

how can u factor into your 16/1 on sunnyhillboy that mclernon will not use his whip on the run in? its impossible to do that! we're not exepecting a tony mccoy ride just a competent ride with a jockey using his whip on the run in!
By:
bigben the horseman
When: 15 Apr 12 22:09
seanog 36.

how can u factor into your 16/1 on sunnyhillboy that mclernon will not use his whip on the run in? its impossible to do that! we're not exepecting a tony mccoy ride just a competent ride with a jockey using his whip on the run in!
By:
bigben the horseman
When: 15 Apr 12 22:10
sorry for the treble post my bad
By:
bigben the horseman
When: 15 Apr 12 22:10
sorry for the treble post my bad
By:
bigben the horseman
When: 15 Apr 12 22:11
im having a mare lol
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Apr 12 22:57
what are you going call her ??
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Apr 12 23:25
I wish bigben the horseman had been riding SHB.

He would have cracked it once and then repeated it twice, swapped hands and repeated a further 3 times!Happy
By:
Colldogg
When: 16 Apr 12 00:33
bigben, you factor in the jockey skill and strength in your bet when taking the price. As others have said, Sunnyhillboy would have gone off favorite had AP been on board. I did back Sunnyhillboy straight after the Kim Muir thinking that AP would be on board and that Synchronised. But laid him earlier this week because I was uneasy about the constant drifting and paranoid that the horse was not 100%.

As others have said Mclernon rode a great race to get Sunnyhillboy in contention and give him a chance of winning, he just rode a weak finish. Mclernon is imo a weak jockey compared to a lot of the other jockeys out there and him on board SHB instead of AP was always going to be a negative. If I was a Sunnyhillboy backer too then I'd be annoyed too because even being on Neptune Collonges, Sunnyhillboy should have won...

It annoys me that their are other jockeys out there such as Will Kennedy who don't get used often, but would never have lost a race in the same position. I guess people are loyal and loyalty counts for a lot more in racing than actual talent.
By:
RedAdair
When: 16 Apr 12 12:21
To be fair to Richie, it was a great ride until the finish.

I'm not of the opinion that AP would have won the race had he been on SHB

Of course if AP had been involved in the exact same finish then yes he'd have won it, easy peasy.

But AP might not have got round, as he would have ridden a different race to Richie and may have been brought down or made a costly error.

That might sound strange logic, but I know exactly what I mean Confused

I was on Sunnyhillboy to win, so yes, it cost me, but I'm over it now.

I'm more concerned with all the fallers and the two fatalities.

The supposed safety measures don't seem to be making it any safer for the horses.
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 16 Apr 12 12:28
i backed sunnyhillboy and whilst like the rest of us am gutted at getting done on the line i thought  R M  gave him a great ride unfortunately jacob was stronger in the finish but he jumped fantastically all the way round the only place he lost ground was at the canal turn 2nd time round i just wish after he hit him about 150 yards out causing sunnyhillboy to drift to the rail which he nearly collided with he could have pulled his whip through and give him a couple more but thats racing and gambling and after all we all could have typed in 1.5 or whatever lays in running in the eventuallity of getting beat close home unfortunately i didnt and i had 100 at 22's last year i had 200 oscar time at 25 looking forward to next year
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