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Weak as piss, hit it once in run in - disgrace.
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I don't think he expected Neptune to be on his outside, bad judgement
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Talking out your arse
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Soon as he goes clear surely must be head down and drive it to the line, not a hands and heels job.
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He forgot it was the GN,so use to been on the NT's around Newton abbot and the likes
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He got his horse round the toughest course with 39 other runners - its clearly a disgrace that he got his horse home safe and sound
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oh dear,What a stupid statement that is,
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What part?
Anyone who can steer a horse round the national course, putting the horse in the right position, avoiding dozens of fallers and finding a stride over ever fence is not a disgraceful ride, but maybe you're a better jockey than him? |
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That should be the last ride of his career. I've seen 5 year olds riding ponies on Blackpool beach with more strength than him. An embarrassing day for racing.
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wellchief,he stayed wide all the way around to avoid any fallers,doesnt take a genius to plan that,
if you think he cost sunnyhillboy the race in the end then you should follow a different sport tbh |
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*if you think he hasnt
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Different point of view is that if he didn't keep him wide to avoid fallers he could have easily been brought down earlier in the race? Doesn't take a genius to think that.
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D.JACOB WAS GREAT , BUT R.M WILL TAKE HIS RIDE IN THE FINISH TO THE GRAVE.
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wellchief - you're missing the obvious point of the thread, which is about the finish. Yes, of course he did well to steer him round safely, mainly by keeping out wide and out of the way.
But after taken the last in front just re-watch the run in. Neptune is whipped several times and really driven home for the line. In contrast, Sunnyhillboy was whipped, I think, just twice, barely driven out whatsoever and subsequently done by a nose. |
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I backed it, so declare an interest, but he clearly made a mess of the finish. Having seen off Seabass, he obviously thought he had the race won and just gave it a couple of flicks down the shoulder. On the replay you can actually see his head whip round as the winner gets to his mounts quarters and at that point he goes for the stick again, but it's three strides from the line and he doesn't pick up as Jacobs drives the winner through the line. He'll be kicking himself for a very long time over that finish, no doubt. The winner went round the inside whereas he went round the outside true, but no complaints there, you can't win it from the deck and he gave the horse every chance in all bar the last 100yds.
Terrible race for the yard, I'm not sure that even winning it would've made up for their loss though. |
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I thought he must have dropped the whip to be honest as Jacob was far more animated. Perhaps he thought hands and heels was the way (or was avoiding a ban lol).
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Whatever anyone thinks of the ride overall I don't think anyone can argue with these facts:
- If Jacob doesn't break the rules he finishes 2nd. Watch the finish again, he strikes Neptune at least 10 times (may be more when the camera isn't on him) after the last. - If Mclernon had done likewise he would have won. He hit Sunnyhillboy once on the run-in & the horse responded. Even one more strike would probably have won it. It illustrates perfectly just how terrible the whip rule is in it's current form because it actively penalises jockey's who adhere to it & actively rewards those who break it. They need to either get rid of the rule or disqualify jockeys who breach it. Anything else is unworkable & ludicrous. |
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Sorry to say yes he cost me 1200 quid ive re-watched the race he didnt try hard enough ok he took the horse wide and stayed out of trouble,but he ran at least 1/2 a furlong further than any of the others and he should have used his whip and ok got a ban is it not a million pound race ??
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I think it's fair to say that he was on the best horse in the race.
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Best handicapped maybe.
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thanks richie for leting neptune win happy days i owe you.seven hundred pounds richer and paul nicholls trainers title again happy days.
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6 grand off a 5er acca if sunny had won, im stuck for words
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Still a better ride than the muppet on Planet of Sound.
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done me out of 3 grand,i watched in my local so i never had a good view of race.
reading this is making me feel even worse |
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I think there is a few of points missed here:
1. First class ride by Maclernon to the elbow. 2. Jacobs hitis his horse 13 times from the last, Maclernon just twice. 3. Maclernon at least oncem and arguably twicem looks left to view the race on the big screen. 4. I don't think he realised Neptune was so close because he reacted 3 strides from the line but used his whip too late. Just poor judgement in my opinionm and I didn't back it. Should have just got his head down and hit the horse another 4 times, simple asm would surely have won. Tim |
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And I have a crap keyboard !!
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Has Jacob had a ban? Not according to the BHA website, which suggests he didn't break the rules. Nor is there a report of a stewards enquiry.
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stront
i backed sunnyhill,and i have no problem with jacob at all. i have just watched the race again,i dont want to knock mclernon,but he should have done what mcguire did last year |
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Was there a Stewards and did he get a ban? I'm asking genuinely because I'd like to know. If he's hit the horse 9+ times there would have been.
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The problem is that the whip rule in it's current form makes a jockey's job impossible. And means almost everyone will be dissatisfied.
Jacob broke the rules. So you can call that cheating. But he also out-rode Mclernon. Mclernon adhered to the rules. And rode what most decent judges would consider a horrible finish that cost the better horse at the weights the win he deservered. You can't apportion blame well there. For a start, none of us know whether Jacob knew he was breaking the rules & couldn't care less. Equally none of us know whether Mclernon mindfully stuck to the rules or was just too knackered to ride a decent finish. Either way it's an ineffably crap situation brought on by a rule that was badly engineered from the start & only ever designed to appease people who were never going to be appeased anyway. You think an animal-lover will say "oh OK then" if you say you're only going to flog a horse twice instead of three or more times after the last fence? Ban the whip or don't. But this rule is a joke & the longer it exists the worse it is for everyone. |
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I realise I'm in a tiny minority but I go back to more or less the 2nd round of new whip rules (everything but the x strikes in the final furlong) and I'd add that prize money should be forfeited by all connections for a whip offence. This should be appealable in case of strikes required for safety. The basic problem would be gone in 3 days.
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stront,as far as im aware there was no inquiry held and havent heard anything of jacob been banned,slightly baffling considering he hit his mount 13 times after the last
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That's odd OTS.
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When you factor in the horrible publicity for the sport and the race if the winning jockey was penalised for whip abuse for a second successive year it's not that odd. Horse racing closes ranks often.
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Yeah, but surely the media will point that out. Selectively applying the rules is not an option in the highest profile race of the year.
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It's timing though isn't it.
Applying the rules today would have been big news. Tomorrow less so. Discussing this stuff in a week will be TML at best & anything beyond that won't register with the British Public one iota. Jacob should certainly have received a whip ban there & then today & the fact he didn't is utterly unsurprising. |
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Fair points Wado.
But racing doesn't exist in a vacuum and the sooner it realises the better. |
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Just watched it again and i think he is knackered and its that simple
He should of hit the horse a couple of more times but when you watch from the camera above he couldn't even push the horse forward |
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I have been working today and have just got back and watched my sky plussed grand national. I had good money on sunnyhillboy and i am quite furious at the finish mclernon rode on the horse.
daryl jacob used the whip 13 times from the last on the winner mclernon used the whip 3 times from the laston the runner up(only once from the elbow) This is hard to take when the winning margin was centimetres. Some people on here are saying daryl jacob has broken the rules and mclernon stuck to the rules and been punished by finishing runner up. I cannot accept this arguement. He didnt come anywhere near the limit for strikes of the whip after the last. And whether he saw neptunes collonge coming or not why would you not ride for all your worth from the elbow in the national. Maguire won by further than he had to last year because he left nothing to chance after the last as have many recent winning jockeys in the national. I understand all jockeys are of different styles and ability levels however mclernon did not ride to a competent level after the last fence for a jockey riding at that level imo. If anyone honestly disputes that just please watch the replay. It is shocking how animated the other 3 jockeys are in comparison to mclernon in the finish. Had he rode to nearly a competent level he would have been a grand national winning jockey and id be a few grand up. rant over |
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I am a regular at Aintree and to me it looks as if Mc Lennon was watching himself on the big screen and didn't notice the grey coming up on his right. Once he seen it, it was to late. The question is why didn't he ride his horse to the line? Because he though he had it won and didn't see they grey until the last minute. Too late. But the media won't pick this up because it is bad publicity. What a tit. Anybody who knows Aintree will tell you he was watching the large TV instead of riding out his horse.
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