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thanks relieved to have put some points on the board
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Well done Ming & Trev.
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3.10 Curragh - Make A Challenge
10 pts. |
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Cleeve Hill Mob wildcards
dunter1 Ben Macdui - 4.10 York 10pts win carrot St Mark's Basilica - 2.35 Curragh 10pts win |
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Moose, carrot1960 did post for you so will just take the first one ok?
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As for dunter, we may give it one more try to get his attention or try and get someone else in straight away, I don't mind which.
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Moose, carrot1960 did post for you so will just take the first one ok?
Fair enough UD. That's why I ask selections are posted on team thread too as it is easy to miss in the main thread, If you read this Carrot please post in here too ![]() |
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Bravo Monte!
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Thanks Ming.
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Monte the main man again
![]() 1 to run Castletownshend EW 5.15 Curragh Looking like a podium finish, but can carrot cake us to the top ![]() |
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Nice one Monte never in doubt
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Well done lads. I need to up my game
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4.35 Maulesden May 5pts e/w
For Cleeve Hill Mob |
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Big day tomorrow boys. 7 selections needed. Hope you are all sharpening that pin!
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Fox Chairman - 3.15 Windsor
10pts win for the Mob |
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Actually make that 6 selections. Carrot had a 10/1 2nd today, but didn't post it on here, Carrot if you read this please come and join us
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Cleeve Hill Mob
Zahraaty - 10pts win |
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Dusty Dream - 3.50 Newmarket - EWay
should enjoy the ground and pick of her form is rock solid |
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f' me - it's Windsor lol
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trev
dunter Monte still to post. If anyone has a wildcard suggestion then shout up as dunter seems to have gone awol. |
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Morning lads.
Still sharpening my pin here. Tough day in my opinion. |
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Century Dream - 3.35 Goodwood
10 pts win. |
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Moose, I have tried to get a hold of dunter, he comes on for my big race comp and there is no race this weekend, perhaps give it one more try towards next weekend and then recruit if still no show?
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Red Kelly 5:05 Nav 10pts win
CMB Thanks ud |
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Yes UD i agree.
wildcard for Dunter Cleeve Hill Mob Alemaratalyoum - 2.25 Goodwood 5pts EW |
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Good luck Mob
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Well played Monte (again!) and Stats. Unlucky Ming, hope you backed it 1st 4
Moose must do better! |
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Well done lads - methinks we need to plunder shorties at every opportunty to set up the win
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Faisal - 7.15 Wolverhampton 10pt win for the Mob
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Good luck captain.
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For those that didn't notice carrot picked up some points
![]() Swiss Army Officer 5-30 Roscommon 5 pts ew Glad myself to actually pick a winner at last, even at the paltry odds Faisal looks a decent horse, not sure what he's beating, but he's got an engineWas hoping it would get us into 2nd place, but nevermind |
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Good work cap'n!!!!
Al Salt - 4.15 Ascot - win for ... the MOB! ![]() Haggas 3yo - history tells us 3yo's do very well in this race getting their allowance (every Autumn is the same imho) and I liked him even before that stat. The other 3yo's are opposable. He's a massive 2/1 shot - woot woot! |
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I am putting this up on all team threads to hopefully get your agreement to a scoring change, mid-competition, something I don't like doing but I think in this case it warrants it.
The scoring method I use gives back 10pts stake to winners, and doesn't take it off losers, so it makes no difference to winning Win or EW selections. Where the selection is placed, I have been only giving back the 5pts place part of the stake, so the 5pts win stake is deducted but really shouldn't be. So for example Current scoring 1/4 winner gets 12.50 (2.50 profit plus 10pts stake back) 6/1 placed at quarter odds gets 12.50 (7.50 profit plus 5pts stake back) Proposed scoring 1/4 winner gets 12.50 (2.50 profit plus 10pts stake back) 6/1 placed at quarter odds gets 17.50 (7.50 profit plus 10pts stake back) There has been a question on why I give the stake back. I wanted to keep the week's scoring baseline at zero rather than work with minuses for losses. So a team with 8 non-selections or losing selections stays on zero rather than -80, it's just tidier in my opinion and makes no material difference to scoring other than the place anomaly. |
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Personally I don't agree with it - at all. The rules are set - the teams have started on a set of rules that have run for numerous comps.
Stand firm UD and GL. What you can do in future is have win, eway (settle as now) and have place only full stake returned. But do that in the next comp after this one has ruled its course. You also will see people backing 1/4 shots eway!!! - did u think of that? and I would do this! |
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Ming, thank you for your thoughts, I would normally not change mid-flow but this is just wrong, think about it, a losing selection gets nothing deducted, whereas a placed selection gets 5pts taken off in effect.
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and this is not about 1/4 shots win or ew, that may have sparked this discussion but it's about fairness for ew backers not penalising odd-on.
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Hi UD,
It took me a while to understand your logic. ![]() Currently an eway bet is split - so in essence if you:- a/ lose then the result is 0 (nothing deducted) b/ a place gets 5pts (half the stake at whatever odds) & the win selection part of this bet has lost and is 0 c/ wins - etc..... you propose that the loss on the win part of a bet (b) is paid out (worth 5). . This is illogical - players would back eway on the 1/4 shots MORE often. Your 'new way' rewards eway backers and will punish win backers. Unless you refund 5 to the win backer... if it gets placed... lar de dar - logic starts to get really warped from there..... Good luck UD and my utmost respect to you as always.. |
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Not easy is it Ming, I see your point that a 1/4 place would get 10pts plus the pennies profit, the likes of Norfolk would have a fit.
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15.30 Navan
Lipizzaner - 10pts win |
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Well it seems a few people are upset
![]() UD ultimately it is your competition and you set the rules. Whatever you choose is fine by me Back to the important stuff... THE MUFF FUFFLER STATSMAN dunter1 Monte Christo trevor007 to pick today. I am guessing we will need a wildcard for dunter, any suggestions welcome. Good luck to all and a free Wham bar to anyone who dares to Nap in the 2.35 Kempton ![]() ![]() CHM cut off time for selections 1pm please |