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25 Feb 14
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Slight delay while I find out how to settle the joint LRF.
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methinks it should be a loser as racecard order should dictate - but not certain
Ditto BB but waiting to see what someone else does
Shane's settled it as a loser so that's good enough for me.
I'd propose a rule change for LRFs: winners settled as DH, this allows those who cannot post to profit and also rewards those who choose the LRF as an easy selection - but reduces the frustration for those who can and do post?
Or possibly all LRFs settled at a fixed price regardless of SP?
Or possibly all LRFs settled at a fixed price regardless of SP?
| POS | CHG | FORM | NAME | SELECTION | RESULT | +/- | TOTAL | ||
| 1▲ | 03011d1 | Reged | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £22.00 | |||
| 2▲ | 3300011 | top2rated | Resonare - 3.30 Ling | Lost | -1.00 | £18.75 | |||
| 3▲ | 0003010 | Grok (1) | Tommy O'dwyer - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £18.17 | |||
| 4▲ | 0120103 | bettysboy | Cosway Spirit - 3.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | £15.00 | |||
| 5▲ | 00103d1 | Aquarius | Divine Intavention - 3.50 Catterick | 1st 12/5 | 2.40 | £12.76 | |||
| 6 | 30210d2 | john.t | Tommy O'dwyer - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £6.50 | |||
| 7 | +2 | 10001d2 | sonofshinner (7) | LRF: Landmarque - 5.20 Catterick | 1st 3/1JF | 3.00 | £5.64 | ||
| 8 | -1 | 11303d0 | Poppydog. (1) | Fitandproperjob - 4:40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | £3.21 | ||
| 9 | -1 | 1211210 | majorupshotbagley | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £2.00 | ||
| 10 | 02131d1 | The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil | Blazing Whale - 4.10 Leicester | 3rd 7/1 | -1.00 | £1.25 | |||
| 11 | +8 | 1230000 | Steamship | Lord Landen - 4.40 Leicester | 1st 13/2 | 6.50 | -£2.59 | ||
| 12 | -1 | 11310d0 | uptheboro | Qoubilai - 4.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£3.60 | ||
| 13 | +3 | 11122d0 | Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods (2) | LRF: Landmarque - 5.20 Catterick | 1st 3/1JF | 3.00 | -£3.68 | ||
| 14 | 12113d2 | dukeofpuke | Cloudante - 4.50 Catterick | 1st 1/7F | 0.14 | -£4.91 | |||
| 15 | -3 | 1121011 | Shanelee1966 | Welsh Bard - 4.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.35 | ||
| 16 | -3 | 0300100 | little.bobby (6) | Turf Trivia - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.48 | ||
| 17 | -2 | 32033d1 | NEW KID IN TOWN | Me and Ben - 2.40 Leicester | 2nd 6/1 | -1.00 | -£6.50 | ||
| 18 | +2 | 12013d2 | WeeJimmyMcTavish | Cloudante - 4.50 Catterick | 1st 1/7F | 0.14 | -£9.34 | ||
| 19 | -2 | 11110d0 | FCH | Shannon Spirit - 2.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£9.36 | ||
| 20 | -2 | 3000nd2 | bridgelad (3) | Full Ov Beans - 4.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£9.50 | ||
| 21 | 30101d0 | dogdayafternoon | Full Ov Beans - 4.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£10.86 | |||
| 22 | 3000131 | youresomean | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£13.89 | |||
| 23 | +5 | 32202d0 | alist5 (3) | LRF: Landmarque - 5.20 Catterick | 1st 3/1JF | 3.00 | -£14.00 | ||
| 24 | -1 | 0300122 | Ardross66 (1) | Bertie Blu Boy - 3.30 Lingfield | 3rd 2/1F | -1.00 | -£14.86 | ||
| 25 | -1 | 03000d2 | twm. (2) | Resonare - 3.30 Ling | Lost | -1.00 | -£15.95 | ||
| 26▼ | -1 | 0020030 | Nijinsky | Ventura Reef - 5.00 Lingfield | Lost | -1.00 | -£17.00 | ||
| 27▼ | -1 | 1020002 | josh monk (4) | Miss Milbourne - 3.40 Leicester | 2nd 9/4 | -1.00 | -£17.15 | ||
| 28▼ | -1 | 0130020 | barstool | Carmela Marie - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£17.83 | ||
| 29▼ | 00300d0 | hi5's (3) | Foie Gras - 3.30 Lingfield | Lost | -1.00 | -£21.00 | |||
| ▼ | 0003120 | zipper (1) | Retired |
Corrected version...
| POS | CHG | FORM | NAME | SELECTION | RESULT | +/- | TOTAL | ||
| 1▲ | 03011d1 | Reged | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £22.00 | |||
| 2▲ | 3300011 | top2rated | Resonare - 3.30 Ling | Lost | -1.00 | £18.75 | |||
| 3▲ | 0003010 | Grok (1) | Tommy O'dwyer - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £18.17 | |||
| 4▲ | 0120103 | bettysboy | Cosway Spirit - 3.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | £15.00 | |||
| 5▲ | 00103d1 | Aquarius | Divine Intavention - 3.50 Catterick | 1st 12/5 | 2.40 | £12.76 | |||
| 6 | 30210d2 | john.t | Tommy O'dwyer - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £6.50 | |||
| 7 | 11303d0 | Poppydog. (1) | Fitandproperjob - 4:40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | £3.21 | |||
| 8 | 1211210 | majorupshotbagley | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £2.00 | |||
| 9 | 10001d2 | sonofshinner (7) | LRF: Landmarque - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £1.64 | |||
| 10 | 02131d1 | The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil | Blazing Whale - 4.10 Leicester | 3rd 7/1 | -1.00 | £1.25 | |||
| 11 | +8 | 1230000 | Steamship | Lord Landen - 4.40 Leicester | 1st 13/2 | 6.50 | -£2.59 | ||
| 12 | -1 | 11310d0 | uptheboro | Qoubilai - 4.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£3.60 | ||
| 13 | +1 | 12113d2 | dukeofpuke | Cloudante - 4.50 Catterick | 1st 1/7F | 0.14 | -£4.91 | ||
| 14 | -2 | 1121011 | Shanelee1966 | Welsh Bard - 4.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.35 | ||
| 15 | -2 | 0300100 | little.bobby (6) | Turf Trivia - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.48 | ||
| 16 | -1 | 32033d1 | NEW KID IN TOWN | Me and Ben - 2.40 Leicester | 2nd 6/1 | -1.00 | -£6.50 | ||
| 17 | -1 | 11122d0 | Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods (2) | LRF: Landmarque - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£7.68 | ||
| 18 | +2 | 12013d2 | WeeJimmyMcTavish | Cloudante - 4.50 Catterick | 1st 1/7F | 0.14 | -£9.34 | ||
| 19 | -2 | 11110d0 | FCH | Shannon Spirit - 2.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£9.36 | ||
| 20 | -2 | 3000nd2 | bridgelad (3) | Full Ov Beans - 4.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£9.50 | ||
| 21 | 30101d0 | dogdayafternoon | Full Ov Beans - 4.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£10.86 | |||
| 22 | 3000131 | youresomean | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£13.89 | |||
| 23 | 0300122 | Ardross66 (1) | Bertie Blu Boy - 3.30 Lingfield | 3rd 2/1F | -1.00 | -£14.86 | |||
| 24 | 03000d2 | twm. (2) | Resonare - 3.30 Ling | Lost | -1.00 | -£15.95 | |||
| 25 | 0020030 | Nijinsky | Ventura Reef - 5.00 Lingfield | Lost | -1.00 | -£17.00 | |||
| 26▼ | 1020002 | josh monk (4) | Miss Milbourne - 3.40 Leicester | 2nd 9/4 | -1.00 | -£17.15 | |||
| 27▼ | 0130020 | barstool | Carmela Marie - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£17.83 | |||
| 28▼ | 32202d0 | alist5 (3) | LRF: Landmarque - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£18.00 | |||
| 29▼ | 00300d0 | hi5's (3) | Foie Gras - 3.30 Lingfield | Lost | -1.00 | -£21.00 | |||
| ▼ | 0003120 | zipper (1) | Retired |
See what you mean BB - deadheat seems fair. Wonder what the others reckon?
Steamship sailed up 8 places with a 13/2 winning nap,
Aquarius gained a foothold on the podium with a 12/5 success and
dukeofpuke and WeeJimmyMcTavish weighed-in with odds-on winners.
The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil and NEW KID IN TOWN hit the bar with decent-priced efforts.
Well done all winners and Good Luck for tomorrow everybody.
Aquarius gained a foothold on the podium with a 12/5 success and
dukeofpuke and WeeJimmyMcTavish weighed-in with odds-on winners.
The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil and NEW KID IN TOWN hit the bar with decent-priced efforts.
Well done all winners and Good Luck for tomorrow everybody.
Seriously, why have LRFs at all? This coimp is supposed to be a test of individual napping skill ... how are LRFs part of that. I'd do away with LRFFs and optional Sundays and just allow 14, maybe 12, penalty-free days a month.
and, while I'm still in full rant, how about also just counting invalid entries etc as non-posts ie as if you hadn't posted at all?
Yep - allow for two weeks holiday, so no selection settled as NR and get rid of LRFFFFFFFS. Named instructions to be allowed.
Evening all. Thought I'd better amend this slightly to avoid later queries....
| POS | CHG | FORM | NAME | SELECTION | RESULT | +/- | TOTAL | ||
| 1▲ | 03011d1 | Reged | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £22.00 | |||
| 2▲ | 3300011 | top2rated | Resonare - 3.30 Ling | Lost | -1.00 | £18.75 | |||
| 3▲ | 0003010 | Grok (1) | Tommy O'dwyer - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £18.17 | |||
| 4▲ | 0120103 | bettysboy | Cosway Spirit - 3.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | £15.00 | |||
| 5▲ | 00103d1 | Aquarius | Divine Intavention - 3.50 Catterick | 1st 12/5 | 2.40 | £12.76 | |||
| 6 | 30210d2 | john.t | Tommy O'dwyer - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £6.50 | |||
| 7 | 11303d0 | Poppydog. (1) | Fitandproperjob - 4:40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | £3.21 | |||
| 8 | 1211210 | majorupshotbagley | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £2.00 | |||
| 9 | 10001d2 | sonofshinner (7) | LRF: - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | £1.64 | |||
| 10 | 02131d1 | The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil | Blazing Whale - 4.10 Leicester | 3rd 7/1 | -1.00 | £1.25 | |||
| 11 | +8 | 1230000 | Steamship | Lord Landen - 4.40 Leicester | 1st 13/2 | 6.50 | -£2.59 | ||
| 12 | -1 | 11310d0 | uptheboro | Qoubilai - 4.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£3.60 | ||
| 13 | +1 | 12113d2 | dukeofpuke | Cloudante - 4.50 Catterick | 1st 1/7F | 0.14 | -£4.91 | ||
| 14 | -2 | 1121011 | Shanelee1966 | Welsh Bard - 4.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.35 | ||
| 15 | -2 | 0300100 | little.bobby (6) | Turf Trivia - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.48 | ||
| 16 | -1 | 32033d1 | NEW KID IN TOWN | Me and Ben - 2.40 Leicester | 2nd 6/1 | -1.00 | -£6.50 | ||
| 17 | -1 | 11122d0 | Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods (2) | LRF: - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£7.68 | ||
| 18 | +2 | 12013d2 | WeeJimmyMcTavish | Cloudante - 4.50 Catterick | 1st 1/7F | 0.14 | -£9.34 | ||
| 19 | -2 | 11110d0 | FCH | Shannon Spirit - 2.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£9.36 | ||
| 20 | -2 | 3000nd2 | bridgelad (3) | Full Ov Beans - 4.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£9.50 | ||
| 21 | 30101d0 | dogdayafternoon | Full Ov Beans - 4.40 Leicester | Lost | -1.00 | -£10.86 | |||
| 22 | 3000131 | youresomean | Lucky Sunny - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£13.89 | |||
| 23 | 0300122 | Ardross66 (1) | Bertie Blu Boy - 3.30 Lingfield | 3rd 2/1F | -1.00 | -£14.86 | |||
| 24 | 03000d2 | twm. (2) | Resonare - 3.30 Ling | Lost | -1.00 | -£15.95 | |||
| 25 | 0020030 | Nijinsky | Ventura Reef - 5.00 Lingfield | Lost | -1.00 | -£17.00 | |||
| 26▼ | 1020002 | josh monk (4) | Miss Milbourne - 3.40 Leicester | 2nd 9/4 | -1.00 | -£17.15 | |||
| 27▼ | 0130020 | barstool | Carmela Marie - 3.50 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£17.83 | |||
| 28▼ | 32202d0 | alist5 (3) | LRF: - 5.20 Catterick | Lost | -1.00 | -£18.00 | |||
| 29▼ | 00300d0 | hi5's (3) | Foie Gras - 3.30 Lingfield | Lost | -1.00 | -£21.00 | |||
| ▼ | 0003120 | zipper (1) | Retired |
The only problem I see with a non selection being classed as a non runner is in the premier and possibly Div`s 1 & 2 at the end of the month in the relegation battles. Some will take the opportunity to settle for a n/r and hope the others lose. It more or less happens now with really short priced selections ie 1/8 1/10 and so on.
I`m all for either settling last race fav as max 6/4 2/1 or d/h on the isp.
You could do away with it altogether and not allow any, but that`s unfair for those on holiday or any other reason you couldn`t post.
I`m all for either settling last race fav as max 6/4 2/1 or d/h on the isp.
You could do away with it altogether and not allow any, but that`s unfair for those on holiday or any other reason you couldn`t post.
Some will take the opportunity to settle for a n/r and hope the others lose - how is it different from now?
that`s unfair for those on holiday or any other reason you couldn`t post. - surely not as unfair as those on holiday benefiting from something they didnt pick. Those on holiday would at least not be penalised for not posting. I think them's the breaks - you go on holiday, you're probably not going to win/be promoted that month, but not too likely to be relegated if you have scored some winners.
that`s unfair for those on holiday or any other reason you couldn`t post. - surely not as unfair as those on holiday benefiting from something they didnt pick. Those on holiday would at least not be penalised for not posting. I think them's the breaks - you go on holiday, you're probably not going to win/be promoted that month, but not too likely to be relegated if you have scored some winners.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
So how do we all feel about doing away with instructions (LRF) then, say 10 non posts settled as n/r then -£1 thereafter.
Many would ask others to post for them when on holiday.
So how do we all feel about doing away with instructions (LRF) then, say 10 non posts settled as n/r then -£1 thereafter.
Many would ask others to post for them when on holiday.
okay, maybe I see the prob with the first ... could insist on people posting the last three or four days or lose a point?
Put it this way Reg. Let`s say Mr X is one place above the relegation zone in the premier and he decides not to post on Feb 25th 26th & 27th when he normally posts every day with out fail and is happy with three n/r`s and gets away with it.
I wouldn`t be very happy. I know, I know, tactics are used anyway and not just selecting a 1/20 shot, Mr Y who is just above Mr Z will select the same horse and so on.
I wouldn`t be very happy. I know, I know, tactics are used anyway and not just selecting a 1/20 shot, Mr Y who is just above Mr Z will select the same horse and so on.
And of course, they could all sit on their hands - I don't think there is a perfect solution, but clearly a number of people don't like the current format
they could all sit on their hands
Again tactics and would be within the rules.
As I`ve always said, there is no easy solution.
Again tactics and would be within the rules.
As I`ve always said, there is no easy solution.
It is Reg. If three napsters are on lrf and it comes in at 4/1 others are bound to feel aggrieved, even though the last four lrf`s have lost.
mind if i but in and put up a selection for tomorrow.
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on behalf of alist5...
cut down number of allowed lrfs to say 3
allows for emergencies, no pc etc
maybe max sp to 2/1
keep sundays optional
if on holiday there is acces now world wide
if you cant be bothered so be it.....
cut down number of allowed lrfs to say 3
allows for emergencies, no pc etc
maybe max sp to 2/1
keep sundays optional
if on holiday there is acces now world wide
if you cant be bothered so be it.....
Good morning KC
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Alframsey - 4.10 Lingfield
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The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil
Wedgewood Estates - 5.50K
WeeJimmyMcTavish
Fairytale Theatre - 2.20W
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WeeJimmyMcTavish
Fairytale Theatre - 2.20W
Cheers
Feb 26, 2014 -- 8:12AM, giltedge wrote:
on behalf of alist5...cut down number of allowed lrfs to say 3allows for emergencies, no pc etcmaybe max sp to 2/1keep sundays optionalif on holiday there is acces now world wideif you cant be bothered so be it.....
if on holiday there is acces now world wide
if you cant be bothered so be it.....
thats not true for betfair as you cant access it from france or spain which are 2 popular holiday destinations
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Thanks KC,
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