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Report Reged • December 10, 2013 5:57 PM GMT
POS CHG  FORM    NAME                                  SELECTION                        RESULT         +/-       TOTAL
1▲       01010-2 Trusty                                Free Falling - 3.40 Font          Lost        -1.00      £13.00
2▲   +1  0100012 barstool                              Alpha Tauri - 1.00 Sthl          1st 8/1      8.00      £12.07
3▲   -1  31010-n SirRembrandt (2)                      Legacy Gold - 12.20 Uttox        1st 8/13      0.62       £7.06
4▲       00210-0 john.t                                Onenightinvienna - 3.20 Uttox    Lost        -1.00       £3.00
4▲       01001-0 NEW KID IN TOWN                        Grace Hull - 3.30 Sthl            Lost        -1.00       £3.00
6 +11  31100-3 JRAS (1)                              LRF: Osmosia - 3.40 Font          1st 4/1      4.00       £2.12
7 +12  n0000-0 pumphol. (1)                          LRF: Osmosia - 3.40 Font          1st 4/1      4.00       £2.00
7 +13  00202-0 youresomean (1)                        Agincourt Reef - 2.40 Font        1st 9/2      4.50       £2.00
9   -3  01101-0 uptheboro                              Clockmaker - 1.30 Sthl            Lost        -1.00       £1.67
10   -3  00110-1 khyber kim                            African Gold - 12.50 Uttox        Lost        -1.00       £1.42
11 +11  00000-0 atk1304 (1)                            LRF: Osmosia - 3.40 Font          1st 4/1      4.00       £0.50
12   -4  20103-0 razmos (1)                            Monte Cassino - 3.30 Sthl        Lost        -1.00       £0.00
13   -4  30012-2 Value Seeker (2)                      Spitfire - 1.00 Sthl              2nd        -1.00      -£0.50
14   -4  2321n03 SOULDANCER                            Hussar Ballad - 2.30 Sthl        Lost        -1.00      -£1.00
14   -4  0000103 The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil          Putin - 3.00 Sthl                Lost        -1.00      -£1.00
14   -4  10003-1 Polo Minx                              General Girling - 3.40 Font      3rd        -1.00      -£1.00
17   -4  31200-3 Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods (1)              Lily Waugh - 1.40 Font            3rd        -1.00      -£1.38
18   -4  210030n SkintofGreatYarmouth                  Bladoun - 1.50 Uttox              Lost        -1.00      -£1.50
19   -4  11223-2 Lucky Blue (1)                        Lily Waugh - 1.40 Font            3rd        -1.00      -£1.59
20   -4  1010202 sing when ur winning                  Bladoun - 1.50 Uttox              Lost        -1.00      -£2.02
21   -3  12211-3 SlippyBlue (1)                        Lily Waugh - 1.40 Font            3rd        -1.00      -£2.97
22   +6  00203-3 MOB (4)                                LRF: Osmosia - 3.40 Font          1st 4/1      4.00      -£3.00
23   +8  30000-3 Art Decko (3)                          LRF: Osmosia - 3.40 Font          1st 4/1      4.00      -£4.00
24   -3  30012-3 MALTWHIX (4)                          Ballinahow Star - 12.50 Uttox    3rd        -1.00      -£4.00
25   -3  0021000 DeSSieReborn                          Queen's Star - 1.40 Font          Lost        -1.00      -£4.50
26   -2  d1000-2 Grok                                  Touch Judge - 3.20 Uttox          Lost        -1.00      -£6.56
27   -2  2200102 themuppet                              Mixologist - 2.40 Font            2nd        -1.00      -£7.25
28   -2  20200-1 ThreeToFour                            Princess Caetani - 12.20 Uttox    3rd        -1.00      -£7.80
29   -2  00233-0 duffy                                  Malibu Sun - 3.10 Font            2nd        -1.00      -£8.00
30   -1  00020-0 elvissss                              Monte Cassino - 3.30 Sthl        Lost        -1.00      -£9.00
31   -1  0000033 ad hoc shouldve won a national (1)    Flementime - 12.20 Uttox          2nd        -1.00      -£9.00
32       0000000 madhatters                            Financial Climate - 2.10 Font    Lost        -1.00    -£10.00
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Report Reged • December 10, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
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A table that flatters to deceive, the majority of winners being stayaways on the LRF! Shocked

However, we do have a sooper top nap from barstool, Alpha Tauri  at 8/1. That's his fourth winner of the month and comes just a couple of days after his 6/1 strike. Fantabuloso! Cool Mind you, it only nudges the four-legged (or is it three?) napster up a place to second because he was already in a strong position. Well, he's in a much stronger one now, less than a squid behind our silent leader.

His move meant that an odds-on winner from SirRembrandt, so cruelly defamed yesterday, wasn't enough to stop him from slipping one.

The other notable score - the only other non-LRF - came from youresomean, with his second of the month, at 9/2, to catapult 13 places up to seventh. Grin But for the LRF he would have been even higher!

Still, a very good overall show for the thread. Best of luck Wednesday! Excited
Report barstool • December 10, 2013 6:50 PM GMT
Sacre Toi  2.50 Hexam


(Already had the 6/1 on 365. I will be amazed if it goes off that big).

Good luck.
Report TheNorfolkMafia • December 10, 2013 7:08 PM GMT
Discoverie - 2:20 Hexham
Report TheNorfolkMafia • December 10, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
A table that flatters to deceive, the majority of winners being stayaways on the LRF! Shocked

LRF - What a f*cking travesty it is!
Report SlippyBlue • December 10, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
13.20 - Hexham

Hellorboston

GL
Report MALTWHIX • December 10, 2013 9:17 PM GMT
Silsol -1240 Leicester
Report Art Decko • December 10, 2013 10:15 PM GMT
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A table that flatters to deceive, the majority of winners being stayaways on the LRF! Shocked

LRF - What a f*cking travesty it is!

Hey... I feel as guilty as the next man ...but them's the rules ...

Hoping to post a "real " winner later ...
Report SirRembrandt • December 10, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
Silsol - 12.40 Leics
Report uptheboro • December 10, 2013 11:15 PM GMT
Addictive Dream - 2.30 Lingfield

Cheers RegHappy
Report Art Decko • December 11, 2013 7:47 AM GMT
Lowther - 6.40 Kempton
Report khyber kim • December 11, 2013 7:59 AM GMT
Borough Belle 3.40 KP

ta
Report SOULDANCER • December 11, 2013 8:00 AM GMT
LRF.
   When did this rule start and why? I was on here about 3 years ago and can't remember it. Devalued the competition somewhat.
Report youresomean • December 11, 2013 9:33 AM GMT
The Last Night - 2.40 Leicester

thanks
Report Lucky Blue • December 11, 2013 10:15 AM GMT
BERNARDELLI   2.50 Hexham  thanks
Report john.t • December 11, 2013 10:21 AM GMT
bernardelli 2.50 hexham
Report SOULDANCER • December 11, 2013 10:52 AM GMT
Trooping The Colour - 6.40.Kemp.
Report Grok • December 11, 2013 11:01 AM GMT
Oil Burner -  1:50 Hexm
Report Trusty • December 11, 2013 11:16 AM GMT
Fitandproperjob - 2.40 - Leic

Thanks
Report petemac • December 11, 2013 11:28 AM GMT
Mafia , Deko and Souldancer yes I have been against this since it's arrival but we have got to respect the life of the settlers and if it makes their life easier unless we can come up with something else we have to just get on with it.
They ain't a lot wrong with the rule I just think 10 days in a single Month is a lot of "Paid Leave"
With me being a quiet chap I don't often mention it (sh"" scared of Reg)Blush
Report Sing when ur winning • December 11, 2013 11:48 AM GMT
Alpha and Omega - 9.10 Dun
Report atk1304 • December 11, 2013 11:59 AM GMT
Seek The Fair Land - 2.00 Lingfield
Report look - it's snowing • December 11, 2013 12:18 PM GMT
The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil         

Jazz Master - 6.40K

Cheers
Report ThreeToFour • December 11, 2013 12:25 PM GMT
Chankillo - 1.40 Leicester

Thanks!
Report SOULDANCER • December 11, 2013 12:26 PM GMT
petemac,
yes fair enough, we all know the rules. Just can't remember it being like this before. If it's easier for settlers  that's good, they work hard enough.
Report madhatters • December 11, 2013 12:35 PM GMT
Great Ocean Road 3.20 Hex
Report madhatters • December 11, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
Quite funny really
People entering comps & not being aware of the rules Sad
Report duffy • December 11, 2013 12:39 PM GMT
Alpha And Omega - 9.20 Dun
Cheers
Report JRAS • December 11, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
Back from being unable to post due to working 0530-2230 yesterday (thanks for the LRF, its a great rule, nice and simple and easy to understand)

Clubhouse - 3.30 Lingfield

Thanks
Report TheNorfolkMafia • December 11, 2013 1:07 PM GMT
JRAS • December 11, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
Back from being unable to post due to working 0530-2230 yesterday (thanks for the LRF, its a great rule, nice and simple and easy to understand)


It's a load of b*llocks!
Report Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods • December 11, 2013 1:31 PM GMT
Frizzo 310 Leic
Report themuppet • December 11, 2013 1:35 PM GMT
uncle dermott 3030 lingfield
cheers
Report pumphol. • December 11, 2013 2:47 PM GMT
Zalgarry - 3.10 Leic

Thanks
Report SOULDANCER • December 11, 2013 2:56 PM GMT
madhatters,
   I never said I was unaware of the rules...You're in a good mood.
Report JRAS • December 11, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
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JRAS • December 11, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
Back from being unable to post due to working 0530-2230 yesterday (thanks for the LRF, its a great rule, nice and simple and easy to understand)

It's a load of b*ll*cks

LaughLaughLaugh

Its still a simple solution to a situation that was getting more and more out of control, with ever more complex instructions. Some of the instructions had to be seen to be believed.
Its now simple, and above all much easier for the settlers who put a lot of time and effort in on our behalf.
Report petemac • December 11, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
ok JRAS but why 10 days?
take away our 4 rest days and it is nearly half the bloody month.
Report Reged • December 11, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
10 days effectively covers 2 weeks holiday, which is I guess the average
Report petemac • December 11, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
Show me someone who has 12 holidays a year  and I will show my ar"" in boots window.
Anyway Reg, I did not know you were in I better be off now.Wink
Report Reged • December 11, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
as usual pete ur missing el pointo
Report petemac • December 11, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
as usual Reg I usually do.
Report petemac • December 11, 2013 5:28 PM GMT
This discussion always arises when a good price LRF wins or LRF run up a sequence of wins.
But I don't think anyone could budge you with a crow bar on this ruling Reg so I bid you fare thee well.Sad
Report Reged • December 11, 2013 5:32 PM GMT
actually I've no problem with abandoning it - its not my rule, its a comp rule pete. It was originally the instructions rule which I am guessing has existed since the comp began. I am only wary of changing a not unreasonable rule and therefore the underlying nature of the comp itself and its traditions. The law of unintended consequences is always at the back if my mind.
Report petemac • December 11, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
I wasn't here long when the instructions ruling was in but I do remember that being farcical and a right pi** on for you settlers and I am not against the LRF ruling just the very generous 10 days on offer.
Report elvissss • December 11, 2013 6:09 PM GMT
Street Party - 8.20 Dundalk

Ty
Report FCH • December 11, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
posted in Div 2



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Discoverie - 2.20 Hexh
Report atk1304 • December 11, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
An interesting debate, as I was on the LRF yesterday and benefited from the 4-1.  I had a busy day and couldn’t post. That said, I sympathise with the comments and have given a bit of thought to this so I offer this as an addition to the discussion and I don’t have an axe to grind over it. I just enjoy the competition.

Considerations are that:
People Work
People are retired
People have holidays
Settlers have lives

It seems to me that 10 days LRF is generous in Div 3. However , in higher divisions, people have earned the right to be there  and they have life pressures which can sometimes make it hard to post.

The balance is for the settlers as the more complicated we make it, the harder it is for them. Without them we don’t have a competition and we are very grateful.
We could adopt the 5 consecutive days of LRF which are pre booked and allowed once or twice in a month if you are on holiday. Single days of non posting will result in a lost result (i.e -1 point).

Sometimes when you can’t post because of life pressures there has to be a penalty to be fair to all. The incentive has to be to post.
For Div 3, it’s easy to opt out for a month if you are on an extended holiday but higher divisions need some flexibility. It’s unlikely I will ever need this flexibility so offer this up for discussion.
Report madhatters • December 11, 2013 7:15 PM GMT
SOULDANCER 11 Dec 13 08:00 
LRF.
   When did this rule start and why?

Souly
I refer my learned jigging friend to its 8am post

I am always in a happy mood
Reading posts makes me so

I never mentioned names Grin
Report madhatters • December 11, 2013 7:19 PM GMT
Interesting ideas ATK

But where does it end ?
1 fitz all rule makes for continuity

The luckydipness of a decent Lrf winner brings it to the boil now & then
No one says a word when it hits a losing run
Report atk1304 • December 11, 2013 7:35 PM GMT
Many Thanks for comment Madhatters.

My suggestion would apply to all divisions to create some flexibility for higher divisions.

The overriding principle should be : The incentive has to be to post.

The settlers will decide if it is workable and I rest my case. No issues either way.

Here's to a winner tomorrow.
Report DeSSieReborn • December 11, 2013 8:02 PM GMT
teajaybe - 9.20 dund
Report SlippyBlue • December 11, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
14.00 Huntingdon - Module

Cheers.
Report Shanelee1966 • December 11, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
Didn`t see the debate. We`ve looked at this area many times and decided to simplify instructions. Obviously it causes a stir when the lrf wins at 4/1. The only solution I can come up with is capping the price at say 2/1. So if lrf wins at 8/11 that`s what you get, 6/4 13/8 and so on. If it`s higher than 2/1 then that`s all you get credited.
Report TheNorfolkMafia • December 12, 2013 12:14 AM GMT
I would like to see,

No post = 1 point deducted!
Report SOULDANCER • December 12, 2013 8:10 AM GMT
JRAS,
thanks for explaining why rule was brought in, that's all I wanted to know.

madhatters,
thanks for nothing.
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