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By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 14:58
Competition Format:

64 players entered

1st Group Stage (3 weeks), 64 players divided into 16 groups of 4, each player plays each other once (3 matches each), top 2 from each group qualify to stage 2.

2nd Stage (3 weeks), 32 qualified from 1st Stage are divided into 8 groups of 4, top two qualify from each group.

3rd Stage (3 weeks), 16 qualified from 2nd Stage are divided into 4 groups of 4, only the winner goes through.

Final Group Stage (3 weeks) - the last 4 standing, 3 final matches each to determine the champion.

Draws will take place on the Sunday before each new group stage.


Group stage match format:

Within each match, players will be required to pick one horse, win only, any price. You may not pick the same selection as your opponent.
Players can pick any time Monday to Saturday (the duration of the match).  Sundays will be for catching up on results and making draws.
There will be a cut-off for all selections on Saturday - the time of the first UK/Irish race. You will have the choice therefore, you can pick at leisure during the week, running the risk of showing your hand to your opponent, or of waiting to play on Saturday to prevent that. During the week, you may select right up to the scheduled race time (one minute before), so you may have the advantage of seeing the market moves. Obviously if you pick a loser early week then you give your opponent a long window to find that odds-on cert, but you may be able to exert extra pressure with a winner.

Once you post a selection, you can't change it, unless it's a duplicate or non-runner.
You are not allowed to leave reserves.


Scoring (Industry SP used for prices):

A match winner will get 2pts, but there will be the possibility of winning a bonus point for making a winning selection on or above the price of Evens, irrespective of winning or losing the match. If a match is drawn, both with the same priced winner, or both losers, then it's 1pt each.
There will also be a chance for one additional bonus point, awarded at the end of the group stage, to the player with the biggest priced winner. If there is a tie for biggest priced winner, the bonus point will not apply.

Possible match scenarios:
Player A picks a winner under evens and Player B picks a loser - Player A gets 2pts, Player B gets 0pts.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner under evens - Player A gets 3pts, Player B gets 0pts.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner evens or over but a lesser price than Player A - Player A gets 3pts, Player B gets 1pt.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner of identical price - Player A gets 2pts, Player B gets 2pts.
Player A picks a loser and Player B picks a loser, or both pick identical winners below Evens - Player A gets 1pt, Player B gets 1pt.


Non-runners:

If a player does not select or picks a duplicate or picks a non-runner (non-runners/duplicates evident before the Saturday cut-off can be replaced) then they will be assigned a selection - Last race fav. (If jt. favs then lowest number on the card). If both players in a match end up with non-runners then it will be 1pt each.
If a player just doesn't turn up for at least two of the three group matches then they are out irrespective of pts gained through assigned LRFs.


Tied on points:

Tie-breakers at the end of group stages as follows:

1. Any player that missed a selection (including picking a duplicate) will be penalised
2. Head to head record between tied players
3. Overall Profit/Loss figure
4. Higher aggregate finishing positions of all three selections


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If you know that you will be away and cannot post for any match, I will accept a post on your behalf as follows:

You must notify in advance of the match that you will not be posting.
You can either email me your selection or
email to someone else to post on your behalf or
nominate someone to select for you.

I will not accept posts on your behalf unless approved by me in advance of the match in question.
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:04
raspberrybottom is safely in the last 16.
Little separates the others, will be a good fight in the final round
A slight advantage for Moose, 1pt more gained so far, and a win over the dealer may help if it's a tie-break

Group 1
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
2 00.91 Moose War Command 3.10 Ne W 10/11 v 11/4 2 4.50 Br Bloodsweat. the dealer -01.00 0
3 01.25 raspberrybottom Banreen. 3.10 Le W 5/4 v 11/8 4 4.30 Ca Time For Sp. dogdayafternoon -01.00 0
2 -00.09 0 -01.00 Moose Balder Suc. 5.0 Ch F5 7/4 v 3/2 W 3.0 Do Old Kilcash raspberrybottom 01.50 3 02.75 6
1 -02.00 1 -01.00 the dealer Café Society 4.05 Li 2 7/4 v 6/5 2 4.20 Co Brendan Br. dogdayafternoon -01.00 1 -02.00 1
Moose v dogdayafternoon
the dealer v raspberrybottom
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:07
Barring any no-shows, madhatters is through to the last 16 and salmon spray is out
hi 5's has it all to do to catch shanelee1966 for that 2nd spot, judging on past performance he won't be holding back

Group 2
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
0 -01.00 salmon spray Francist. 7.10 Wo 4 2/1 v 2/1 W 3.40 Le Hamelin madhatters 02.00 3
1 -01.00 shanelee1966 Inherited 5.0 Wo 3 15/8 v 5/2 7 3.40 Ay Our Diane hi 5's -01.00 1
0 -02.00 0 -01.00 salmon spray Musicora 7.20 Ke 2 3/1 v 5/2 W 8.10 Ke Mystical Sap shanelee1966 02.50 3 01.50 4
5 02.91 2 00.91 madhatters Sword Of.. 4.10 Br W 10/11 v 3/1 8 2.10 Br Bloodsweat. hi 5's -01.00 0 -02.00 1
salmon spray v hi 5's
madhatters v shanelee1966
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:10
Andrew In Sweden is through to the last 16, although FCH could still draw level on points, Andrew has the H2H win over FCH.
duffy cannot make it I'm afraid as Lampus holds the H2H advantage
Lampus needs 2pts in the final match to be certain of qualification
FCH must win and may well need the group bonus, currently 11/4, hoping Lampus doesn't get the 2pts

Group 3
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
2 00.91 Andrew In Sweden War Command 3.10 Ne W 10/11 v 5/4 2 6.50 Du High Net W. FCH -01.00 0
0 -01.00 duffy Great White 2.35 Ne 8 2/1 v 5/2 W 4.15 Ch Balder Succes Lampus 02.50 3
5 03.66 3 02.75 Andrew In Sweden Farhh 4.05 As W 11/4 v 5/4 2 2.45 Ke Ueuetotl duffy -01.00 0 -02.00 0
1 -02.00 1 -01.00 FCH Rebel Fitz 2.40 Ch 2 4/7 v 1/7 2 5.50 Wo Wilhana Lampus -01.00 1 01.50 4
Andrew In Sweden v Lampus
FCH v duffy
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:13
Looks like everyone's reluctant to give their team mate a beating, but I'll sort you out in the end! Wink
Top on best placings at the moment is CASanMartin

Group 4
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
1 -01.00 petemac Double Ross 4.15 Ch 3 5/2 v 11/4 2 5.10 Yo Flow stewpot -01.00 1
1 -01.00 CASanMartin Rathealy 8.40 Wo 2 9/2 v 10/1 9 2.0 Yo Iftaar DeSSieReborn -01.00 1
2 -02.00 1 -01.00 petemac Golden Call 3.55 We 6 8/1 v 2/1 4 6.25 Wo Gilmer CASanMartin -01.00 1 -02.00 2
2 -02.00 1 -01.00 stewpot Jack's Rev. 4.45 As 15 8/1 v 11/2 3 5.45 Du Majestic Tim. DeSSieReborn -01.00 1 -02.00 2
petemac v DeSSieReborn
stewpot v CASanMartin
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:15
Ricky Santini and adamanty are favourites but it's still open to the others this final round
2/1 is the current group bonus target

Group 5
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
0 -01.00 deadbrain59 Highland Ac. 2.0 No 3 4/5 v 2/1 W 3.40 Yo City Zen adamanty 02.00 3
0 00.50 pedro39 New Years E. 5.0 Wo W 1/2 v 5/4 W 1.40 Ay El Beau Ricky Santini 01.25 3
1 -02.00 1 -01.00 deadbrain59 Cirrus Des A 4.05 As 2 3/2 v 10/11 2 5.20 Hu Purple Bay pedro39 -01.00 1 -00.50 1
4 01.00 1 -01.00 adamanty First Lieu. 4.15 Pu 3 4/5 v 11/8 2 3.05 Wi Musaddas Ricky Santini -01.00 1 00.25 4
deadbrain59 v Ricky Santini
adamanty v pedro39
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:16
All still in with a chance to make the top two
themuppet holds the top winner point at the moment, angeleyz will surely aim for that 15/8 target being most in need of the points
Very interesting last week coming up

Group 6
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
0 -01.00 angeleyz Baccarat 3.30 Yo 14 9/2 v 13/8 W 3.20 Wi Well Pain. zipper 01.63 3
3 01.88 themuppet Dawn Comm. 3.50 Ex W 15/8 v 5/1 3 4.30 He Flying Doc. feastforfamine -01.00 0
1 -02.00 1 -01.00 angeleyz Deficit 5.20 Mu 2 7/2 v 9/4 2 5.30 Sa Chocala themuppet -01.00 1 00.88 4
3 00.63 0 -01.00 zipper Shamaal Nib. 4.0 Sa 3 9/4 v 1/1 W 1.35 Ke Plan Again feastforfamine 01.00 3 00.00 3
angeleyz v feastforfamine
zipper v themuppet
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:17
All still in with a shout, lagmorian will need the group bonus though and one of unluckyStu & Tingle Creek not to get a point

Group 7
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
1 -01.00 Ardross66 Our Diane 3.40 Ay 7 5/2 v 10/1 5 5.30 Wo Buaiteoir unluckyStu -01.00 1
3 01.25 Tingle Creek Ocean Waves 5.30 Ca W 5/4 v 11/10 W 3.20 Ca Drop Out J lagmorian 01.10 1
2 -02.00 1 -01.00 Ardross66 Estimate 1.45 As 7 2/1 v 7/4 F5 5.0 Ch Balder Suc. Tingle Creek -01.00 1 00.25 4
4 02.50 3 03.50 unluckyStu Ronaldinho 4.30 Sa W 7/2 v 5/1 8 5.20 Re Santo Prince lagmorian -01.00 0 00.10 1
Ardross66 v lagmorian
unluckyStu v Tingle Creek
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:20
A winner for Group 8 at last, and a nice one too, china castle supplies it and is in pole position
No-ones out of this yet though by any means.

Group 8
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
1 -01.00 razmos Minella Sc. 6.10 Ch 6 9/2 v 7/2 2 8.20 Wo More Aspen china castle -01.00 1
1 -01.00 undecided Berkeley Bar. 3.35 Ch 2 1/1 v 4/1 5 6.40 Wo Agerzam pumphol -01.00 1
2 -02.00 1 -01.00 razmos Estimate 1.45 As 7 2/1 v 3/2 2 5.50 Ke Hiking undecided -01.00 1 -02.00 2
4 03.50 3 04.50 china castle Dancing Cos. 8.50 Wo W 9/2 v 11/10 2 3.05 Ca Mohawk Ridge pumphol -01.00 0 -02.00 1
razmos v pumphol
china castle v undecided
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 15:23
I should add that some of the comments assume players turn up for the final week, because as you can see in the tie-break rules, if a player misses a selection, they are penalised in the event of a tie-break before any h2h or P/L is taken into account.

Best of luck Happy
By:
zipper
When: 20 Oct 13 16:50
Undecided   As always a very crisp and clear write up
looking at the groups .. there are 3  groups  who  will be very hard to split
next round it could all change  .. well played all of you  .. and good luck next week
By:
petemac
When: 20 Oct 13 16:55
Nice winner from my comp fav China Castle
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 20 Oct 13 17:36
There's an added dimension in this round in that only winners go forward
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 17:47
next stage Andrew, when we are down to the last 16, it's the four group winners only to go to the final.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 20 Oct 13 17:47
Next round Andrew
By:
china castle
When: 20 Oct 13 18:10
Great work as always UD Cool

Does h2h still apply when 3 finish level on points Confused
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 20 Oct 13 18:12
Sorry guys, that what I meant
By:
undecided
When: 20 Oct 13 20:32
china, if the three involved all had one win against each other, if you know what I mean, then we'd go to p/l.
By:
salmon spray
When: 21 Oct 13 16:21
Wish I'd got into Grp 4.
Would have won that in a canter    Sad
By:
unluckyStu
When: 21 Oct 13 17:28
Group 7

On Stage - 5.30 Windsor

Thanks UD
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 21 Oct 13 18:14
Wish I'd got into Grp 4.
Would have won that in a canter

Norfolk'n'chanceLaugh
We are all waiting for the 100/1 quotes from the odds compiler
By:
undecided
When: 21 Oct 13 21:22
Group 7
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
1 -01.00 Ardross66 Our Diane 3.40 Ay 7 5/2 v 10/1 5 5.30 Wo Buaiteoir unluckyStu -01.00 1
3 01.25 Tingle Creek Ocean Waves 5.30 Ca W 5/4 v 11/10 W 3.20 Ca Drop Out J lagmorian 01.10 1
2 -02.00 1 -01.00 Ardross66 Estimate 1.45 As 7 2/1 v 7/4 F5 5.0 Ch Balder Suc. Tingle Creek -01.00 1 00.25 4
4 3 03.50 unluckyStu Ronaldinho 4.30 Sa W 7/2 v 5/1 8 5.20 Re Santo Prince lagmorian -01.00 0 00.10 1
Ardross66 v lagmorian
01.50 -01.00 unluckyStu On Stage 5.30 Wi 5 7/1 v Tingle Creek
By:
lagmorian
When: 22 Oct 13 13:01
right so i need tingle to back a winner then beat ard with one bigger than 4/1, easy Crazy
By:
Tingle Creek
When: 22 Oct 13 13:49
Good luck with that lagmorian,i hope its not my side of things that messes things up for your plan. Wink
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 22 Oct 13 13:51
You owe it to him tingle after nicking his 11/10 winner LaughCool
By:
zipper
When: 22 Oct 13 13:58
Hi Undecided  ...
Group 6  zip v themuppet
El Libertador  - 2.00 Lingfield about a 13/2 shot   if it wins   that will shake this group up  If it dont i may be out . Wink
By:
zipper
When: 22 Oct 13 14:07
close but no Cigar .. oh well good luck lads
hey when you get beat with a rank outsider   25/1  .. pay with a smile Love
By:
madhatters
When: 22 Oct 13 15:40
Stomachion 4.20 Yar
Grp 2 vs Shane
By:
zipper
When: 22 Oct 13 16:09
Undecided  i will price up group 6 when i know  Muppet ..Angel  .. Feast .. picks
but has the table stands  its   4/7 on the muppet   5/4 zip ( take on board  a 5/1 2nd )
Feast  9/1   Angel   11/1 that a very fair book   .. its a slight over round  .. but you can be on
By:
themuppet
When: 22 Oct 13 16:15
group 6
stomachion 4.20 yarmouth
cheers
By:
the dealer
When: 22 Oct 13 16:29
group 1 v rasberrybottom

Rock Up 4.30 Lingfield
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 22 Oct 13 16:34
Grp 1 vs the dealer

Chrissycross - 5.00 Lingfield

Thanks.
By:
zipper
When: 22 Oct 13 16:48
Group 6  ...Stomachion wins for themuppet   10/11 on fav  he now leads the table 
so we bet 4/9 the muppet ...100/30 bar   ..who will be second .. muppet  very well played
got a feeling you aint no muppet Love
By:
undecided
When: 22 Oct 13 16:49
Group 6
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
0 -01.00 angeleyz Baccarat 3.30 Yo 14 9/2 v 13/8 W 3.20 Wi Well Pain. zipper 01.63 3
3 01.88 themuppet Dawn Comm. 3.50 Ex W 15/8 v 5/1 3 4.30 He Flying Doc. feastforfamine -01.00 0
1 -02.00 1 -01.00 angeleyz Deficit 5.20 Mu 2 7/2 v 9/4 2 5.30 Sa Chocala themuppet -01.00 1
0 -01.00 zipper Shamaal Nib. 4.0 Sa 3 9/4 v 1/1 W 1.35 Ke Plan Again feastforfamine 01.00 3 00.00 3
angeleyz v feastforfamine
3 -00.38 0 -01.00 zipper El Libert. 2.0 Li 2 7/1 v 10/11 W 4.20 Ya Stomachion themuppet 00.91 2 01.78 6
By:
undecided
When: 22 Oct 13 16:54
Congratulations themuppet you are through.
zipper - bold selection only just failed, because of head to head records, your only hope is for all 3 of you to finish on 3pts and then it would go down to P/L (assuming everyone posts).
By:
undecided
When: 22 Oct 13 16:58
madhatters well done, see you next round, and will you be available to help with the draw again on Sunday?

Group 2
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
0 -01.00 salmon spray Francist. 7.10 Wo 4 2/1 v 2/1 W 3.40 Le Hamelin madhatters 02.00 3
1 -01.00 shanelee1966 Inherited 5.0 Wo 3 15/8 v 5/2 7 3.40 Ay Our Diane hi 5's -01.00 1
0 -02.00 0 -01.00 salmon spray Musicora 7.20 Ke 2 3/1 v 5/2 W 8.10 Ke Mystical Sap shanelee1966 02.50 3 01.50 4
5 2 00.91 madhatters Sword Of.. 4.10 Br W 10/11 v 3/1 8 2.10 Br Bloodsweat. hi 5's -01.00 0 -02.00 1
salmon spray v hi 5's
03.82 00.91 madhatters Stomachion 4.20 Ya W 10/11 v shanelee1966
By:
undecided
When: 22 Oct 13 17:27
It's down to a straight battle now between Moose and dogdayafternoon for the remaining qualification spot.
the dealer, thanks for taking part.

Group 1
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
2 00.91 Moose War Command 3.10 Ne W 10/11 v 11/4 2 4.50 Br Bloodsweat. the dealer -01.00 0
3 01.25 raspberrybottom Banreen. 3.10 Le W 5/4 v 11/8 4 4.30 Ca Time For Sp. dogdayafternoon -01.00 0
2 -00.09 0 -01.00 Moose Balder Suc. 5.0 Ch F5 7/4 v 3/2 W 3.0 Do Old Kilcash raspberrybottom 01.50 3
1 -01.00 the dealer Café Society 4.05 Li 2 7/4 v 6/5 2 4.20 Co Brendan Br. dogdayafternoon -01.00 1 -02.00 1
Moose v dogdayafternoon
2 -03.00 1 -01.00 the dealer Rock Up 4.30 Li 4 4/1 v 7/2 7 5.0 Li Chrissycro. raspberrybottom -01.00 1 01.75 7
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Oct 13 17:40
Good call mad.
By:
lagmorian
When: 22 Oct 13 19:05
Agree dessie and i hope there is no brown envelopes being promised in pm's
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