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06 Oct 13 19:27
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You still get a point for a loser if your opponent is a loser too Happy

I shall reconsider for any future competition but for the rest of this one it stays as it is.

The only real change from last round is the final tie-breaker will now be based around the aggregate finishing positions of your three selections.

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By:
undecided
When: 06 Oct 13 19:29
Group stage match format:

Within each match, players will be required to pick one horse, win only, any price. You may not pick the same selection as your opponent.
Players can pick any time Monday to Saturday (the duration of the match).  Sundays will be for catching up on results and making draws.
There will be a cut-off for all selections on Saturday - the time of the first UK/Irish race. You will have the choice therefore, you can pick at leisure during the week, running the risk of showing your hand to your opponent, or of waiting to play on Saturday to prevent that. During the week, you may select right up to the scheduled race time (one minute before), so you may have the advantage of seeing the market moves. Obviously if you pick a loser early week then you give your opponent a long window to find that odds-on cert, but you may be able to exert extra pressure with a winner.

Once you post a selection, you can't change it, unless it's a duplicate or non-runner.
You are not allowed to leave reserves.


Scoring (Industry SP used for prices):

A match winner will get 2pts, but there will be the possibility of winning a bonus point for making a winning selection on or above the price of Evens, irrespective of winning or losing the match. If a match is drawn, both with the same priced winner, or both losers, then it's 1pt each.
There will also be a chance for one additional bonus point, awarded at the end of the group stage, to the player with the biggest priced winner. If there is a tie for biggest priced winner, the bonus point will not apply.

Possible match scenarios:
Player A picks a winner under evens and Player B picks a loser - Player A gets 2pts, Player B gets 0pts.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner under evens - Player A gets 3pts, Player B gets 0pts.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner evens or over but a lesser price than Player A - Player A gets 3pts, Player B gets 1pt.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner of identical price - Player A gets 2pts, Player B gets 2pts.
Player A picks a loser and Player B picks a loser, or both pick identical winners below Evens - Player A gets 1pt, Player B gets 1pt.


Non-runners:

If a player does not select or picks a duplicate or picks a non-runner (non-runners/duplicates evident before the Saturday cut-off can be replaced) then they will be assigned a selection - Last race fav. (If jt. favs then lowest number on the card). If both players in a match end up with non-runners then it will be 1pt each.
If a player just doesn't turn up for at least two of the three group matches then they are out irrespective of pts gained through assigned LRFs.


Tied on points:

Tie-breakers at the end of group stages as follows:

1. Any player that missed a selection (including picking a duplicate) will be penalised
2. Head to head record between tied players
3. Overall Profit/Loss figure
4. Higher aggregate finishing positions of all three selections


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If you know that you will be away and cannot post for any match, I will accept a post on your behalf as follows:

You must notify in advance of the match that you will not be posting.
You can either email me your selection or
email to someone else to post on your behalf or
nominate someone to select for you.

I will not accept posts on your behalf unless approved by me in advance of the match in question.
By:
undecided
When: 06 Oct 13 19:30
Group 1
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Moose v the dealer
raspberrybottom v dogdayafternoon
Moose v raspberrybottom
the dealer v dogdayafternoon
Moose v dogdayafternoon
the dealer v raspberrybottom


Group 2
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
salmon spray v madhatters
shanelee1966 v hi 5's
salmon spray v shanelee1966
madhatters v hi 5's
salmon spray v hi 5's
madhatters v shanelee1966


Group 3
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Andrew In Sweden v FCH
duffy v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v duffy
FCH v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v Lampus
FCH v duffy


Group 4
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
petemac v stewpot
CASanMartin v DeSSieReborn
petemac v CASanMartin
stewpot v DeSSieReborn
petemac v DeSSieReborn
stewpot v CASanMartin


Group 5
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
deadbrain59 v adamanty
pedro39 v Ricky Santini
deadbrain59 v pedro39
adamanty v Ricky Santini
deadbrain59 v Ricky Santini
adamanty v pedro39


Group 6
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
angeleyz v zipper
themuppet v feastforfamine
angeleyz v themuppet
zipper v feastforfamine
angeleyz v feastforfamine
zipper v themuppet


Group 7
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Ardross66 v unluckyStu
Tingle Creek v lagmorian
Ardross66 v Tingle Creek
unluckyStu v lagmorian
Ardross66 v lagmorian
unluckyStu v Tingle Creek


Group 8
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
razmos v china castle
undecided v pumphol
razmos v undecided
china castle v pumphol
razmos v pumphol
china castle v undecided
By:
undecided
When: 06 Oct 13 20:37
stewpot has arranged to email selections to DeSSie and myself in case he's not able to get online next three weeks.
By:
uptheboro
When: 07 Oct 13 10:01
Well done to all who made it through to this stage and thanks for running this comp UD, hope to do better next timeHappy
By:
razmos
When: 07 Oct 13 14:07
is anyone else sitting with a hovering finger over the return/post reply button ?? Grin
By:
china castle
When: 07 Oct 13 14:49
Not yet razmos Wink
By:
zipper
When: 07 Oct 13 15:15
Group 6 v Angeleyz 
Well Painted -3.20 Windsor
By:
madhatters
When: 07 Oct 13 16:17
First in Zip
WD Grin
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 07 Oct 13 16:48
Well done zippers.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 07 Oct 13 16:58
Inherited - 5.00 Wolves

Thanks ud,
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 07 Oct 13 16:59
pete - I`ve just realised your comment regarding a bye for hi5 & mad Angry
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 07 Oct 13 17:05
Got that one wrong. Good luck hi5
By:
zipper
When: 07 Oct 13 17:23
Cheers Mad  . first in thats how i got my name zipper i was always first in when i was a bit younger
anyhow  the nag , on my tissue about 11/4 ..100.30   poke  ok it won just  .. but 13/8  stops  Angeleyz  puting up odds on shots .. game on
By:
unluckyStu
When: 07 Oct 13 17:29
Group 7
Buaiteoir
By:
unluckyStu
When: 07 Oct 13 17:30
^^^

5.30 Wolver was trying to beat the off time UD just made it
By:
unluckyStu
When: 07 Oct 13 17:33
Pity I made it Laugh
By:
undecided
When: 07 Oct 13 19:43
zipper is off to a good start!

Group 1
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Moose v the dealer
raspberrybottom v dogdayafternoon
Moose v raspberrybottom
the dealer v dogdayafternoon
Moose v dogdayafternoon
the dealer v raspberrybottom


Group 2
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
salmon spray v madhatters
-01.00 -01.00 shanelee1966 Inherited 5.0 Wo 3 15/8 v hi 5's
salmon spray v shanelee1966
madhatters v hi 5's
salmon spray v hi 5's
madhatters v shanelee1966


Group 3
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Andrew In Sweden v FCH
duffy v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v duffy
FCH v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v Lampus
FCH v duffy


Group 4
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
petemac v stewpot
CASanMartin v DeSSieReborn
petemac v CASanMartin
stewpot v DeSSieReborn
petemac v DeSSieReborn
stewpot v CASanMartin


Group 5
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
deadbrain59 v adamanty
pedro39 v Ricky Santini
deadbrain59 v pedro39
adamanty v Ricky Santini
deadbrain59 v Ricky Santini
adamanty v pedro39


Group 6
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
angeleyz v 13/8 W 3.20 Wi Well Pain. zipper 01.63 01.63
themuppet v feastforfamine
angeleyz v themuppet
zipper v feastforfamine
angeleyz v feastforfamine
zipper v themuppet


Group 7
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Ardross66 v 10/1 5 5.30 Wo Buaiteoir unluckyStu -01.00 -01.00
Tingle Creek v lagmorian
Ardross66 v Tingle Creek
unluckyStu v lagmorian
Ardross66 v lagmorian
unluckyStu v Tingle Creek


Group 8
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
razmos v china castle
undecided v pumphol
razmos v undecided
china castle v pumphol
razmos v pumphol
china castle v undecided
By:
petemac
When: 07 Oct 13 19:56
Nice start Zipper.
By:
petemac
When: 07 Oct 13 21:10
Undecided I have had a re-think regarding my suggestion about the home and away ties over 6 matches instead of 3. On second thoughts it could make the competition a little boring and also remove that element of mind games that currently exists in the match play.
Great Draw in group 4 mate any mathematicians out there work out the odds on that?
With 5 Thieves in the draw I reckon over a 7,000/1 shot but I am no expert.
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 08 Oct 13 15:08
Grp 1 vs dogdayafternoon

Banreenareenkah - 3.10 Leic

Ta !
By:
salmon spray
When: 08 Oct 13 15:09
You can say that again.
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 08 Oct 13 15:13
Laugh
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 08 Oct 13 15:13
What do you reckon it means, salmon?
By:
madhatters
When: 08 Oct 13 15:37
Hamelin 3.40 Leic
Grp 2 vs SS

Get it out the way
By:
salmon spray
When: 08 Oct 13 15:47
Sad
Wd madhatters
















Cry
By:
madhatters
When: 08 Oct 13 15:53
Over to you Mr Fish
GL Grin
By:
salmon spray
When: 08 Oct 13 16:01
2-1 is MASSIVE 
By:
undecided
When: 08 Oct 13 16:21
raspberrybottom kicks off Group 1 action with a winner, and madhatters lays down the challenge to salmon spray in the form of a nice 2/1 opener.

Group 1
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Moose v the dealer
01.25 01.25 raspberrybottom Banreen. 3.10 Le W 5/4 v dogdayafternoon
Moose v raspberrybottom
the dealer v dogdayafternoon
Moose v dogdayafternoon
the dealer v raspberrybottom


Group 2
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
salmon spray v 2/1 W 3.40 Le Hamelin madhatters 02.00 02.00
-01.00 -01.00 shanelee1966 Inherited 5.0 Wo 3 15/8 v hi 5's
salmon spray v shanelee1966
madhatters v hi 5's
salmon spray v hi 5's
madhatters v shanelee1966
By:
the dealer
When: 08 Oct 13 16:48
group 1 v moose

Bloodsweatandtears 4.50 brighton
By:
petemac
When: 08 Oct 13 16:57
Salmon are you going for a 11/10 shot and a chance of a bonus point or a 9/4 loser and no points?
The question ain't as daft as it sounds in this comp on 1st Match.
Well done Madhatters and good luck Salmon.Plain
By:
zipper
When: 08 Oct 13 18:02
One for the Boys / Girls   8.10 Wolver
This is a very tight H/C  on paper...but they dont run on paper
Royal Alcor  with the champ up Richard  Hughes will make the market may start fav  but take a close look at Wyborne  ok its giving 4lbs  on my marks that more than fair .. it a win bet for me
Wyborne  to win  .. slaughter me after the race
... by the way this has nowt to do with this great comp
By:
madhatters
When: 08 Oct 13 18:26
Correct Zip - its not the Zipper tip line
Get the nurse to tuck you back in
You had your go - come back next week Grin

Cheerz Pmac
Had the same dai-llama in tha last round

WD Raspy on the rollacoaster
By:
salmon spray
When: 08 Oct 13 18:32
Hmmmm.
I was thinking about Royal Alcor.
By:
petemac
When: 08 Oct 13 18:35
He is trying to wind you up Madhatter, chillax he knows he is in troubleWink
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Oct 13 18:39
Group 4

Agerzam - 6.40 Wolver

Thanks
By:
salmon spray
When: 08 Oct 13 19:09
Group 2 vs madhatters

7.10 Wolves - Francistown
Thank you
By:
madhatters
When: 08 Oct 13 21:11
UL Salmon
Looked like it had never seen a racecourse before
& thats a Derby entrant Sad
By:
undecided
When: 08 Oct 13 21:28
First victory goes to madhatters, well done!

Group 1
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Moose v 11/4 2 4.50 Br Bloodsweat. the dealer -01.00 -01.00
01.25 01.25 raspberrybottom Banreen. 3.10 Le W 5/4 v dogdayafternoon
Moose v raspberrybottom
the dealer v dogdayafternoon
Moose v dogdayafternoon
the dealer v raspberrybottom


Group 2
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
0 -01.00 0 -01.00 salmon spray Francist. 7.10 Wo 4 2/1 v 2/1 W 3.40 Le Hamelin madhatters 02.00 3 02.00 3
-01.00 -01.00 shanelee1966 Inherited 5.0 Wo 3 15/8 v hi 5's
salmon spray v shanelee1966
madhatters v hi 5's
salmon spray v hi 5's
madhatters v shanelee1966


Group 3
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Andrew In Sweden v FCH
duffy v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v duffy
FCH v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v Lampus
FCH v duffy


Group 4
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
petemac v stewpot
CASanMartin v DeSSieReborn
petemac v CASanMartin
stewpot v DeSSieReborn
petemac v DeSSieReborn
stewpot v CASanMartin


Group 5
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
deadbrain59 v adamanty
pedro39 v Ricky Santini
deadbrain59 v pedro39
adamanty v Ricky Santini
deadbrain59 v Ricky Santini
adamanty v pedro39


Group 6
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
angeleyz v 13/8 W 3.20 Wi Well Pain. zipper 01.63 01.63
themuppet v feastforfamine
angeleyz v themuppet
zipper v feastforfamine
angeleyz v feastforfamine
zipper v themuppet


Group 7
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
Ardross66 v 10/1 5 5.30 Wo Buaiteoir unluckyStu -01.00 -01.00
Tingle Creek v lagmorian
Ardross66 v Tingle Creek
unluckyStu v lagmorian
Ardross66 v lagmorian
unluckyStu v Tingle Creek


Group 8
OvPt OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPt
razmos v china castle
undecided v 4/1 5 6.40 Wo Agerzam pumphol -01.00 -01.00
razmos v undecided
china castle v pumphol
razmos v pumphol
china castle v undecided
By:
deadbrain59
When: 09 Oct 13 06:16
group 5 highland acclaim 2.00 nott.
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