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1st Group Stage Draw here Friday 13th September, 7.30pm

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Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:08 PM BST
There will be no seeding, except that as la mallatiere is emailing selections to shanelee1966 who will post them here (la m is in a country that doesn't allow access), I will keep them apart.

shanelee1966 will go in Group 1, position 1 (1.1) and la mallatiere will go into Group 2 position 1 (2.1).

That leaves 62 players in the draw on Friday.
Report Shanelee1966 September 10, 2013 8:11 PM BST
ud - if at any time you feel la mallatiere would be best emailing direct to you just say. Obviously only for your comp.

I`m happy to go with whatever you suggest.
Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:17 PM BST
This is how the draw will work.

I need a volunteer who can be here on Friday at 7.30pm. This volunteer will post a list of the 62 players, jumbled up from the full list that I will post below. Excel can do a random sort, I can explain how if necessary, or you can just manually cut and paste to mix the order up.

I will post, at the exact same time, a list of group numbers and group positions, again jumbled up, except for the two above.

Working from the top, the first name on the player list will go to the first group/position slot as per my list.
Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:20 PM BST
shane, it's not necessary, I'm happy for you to do it.
Report Shanelee1966 September 10, 2013 8:21 PM BST
Ok ud, cheers.
Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:22 PM BST
undecided
bettysboy
dukeofpuke
twm.
salmon spray
unluckyStu
GEORGE.B
madhatters
sixtwosix
Ardross66
FCH
china castle
Stevie Gerrard
Andrew In Sweden
pedro39
pauli
hong kong fooey
Kentish Man
Ming_the_Merciless
feastforfamine
s.kenbo
Sing when ur winning
Cloughie1
dogdayafternoon
SkyAtlantic
pumphol.
john.t
shearer2therestcue
DeSSieReborn
deadbrain59
the dealer
MALTWHIX
Ricky Santini
zipper
dunter1
adamanty
raspberrybottom
Dan Chipowski
DubaiPrince
Aquarius
stewpot
lagmorian
DFCIRONMAN
Moose
CASanMartin
k sera sera
themuppet
alleged22
uptheboro
buffythebookieslayer
differentdrum
angeleyz
Tingle Creek
sonofshinner
razmos
hi 5's
SilverBuck1
duffy
petemac
Lampus
AyersRock
Mikael D'Haguenet
Report Shanelee1966 September 10, 2013 8:22 PM BST
If no one comes forward before 10pm tonight I`m more than happy to assist with the draw ud.
Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:22 PM BST
1.2
1.3
1.4
2.2
2.3
2.4
3.1
3.2
3.3
3.4
4.1
4.2
4.3
4.4
5.1
5.2
5.3
5.4
6.1
6.2
6.3
6.4
7.1
7.2
7.3
7.4
8.1
8.2
8.3
8.4
9.1
9.2
9.3
9.4
10.1
10.2
10.3
10.4
11.1
11.2
11.3
11.4
12.1
12.2
12.3
12.4
13.1
13.2
13.3
13.4
14.1
14.2
14.3
14.4
15.1
15.2
15.3
15.4
16.1
16.2
16.3
16.4
Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:27 PM BST
shane, thanks for the offer but as I've allocated you to a specific group maybe someone else should do it or you'll be picking all the outsiders for your group Laugh
Report undecided September 10, 2013 8:28 PM BST
oh forget that, I dunno what I'm saying, both lists are random of-course Blush
Report Shanelee1966 September 10, 2013 8:32 PM BST
Your the boss ud Laugh

Hope I avoid petemac Laugh
Report bettysboy September 11, 2013 5:36 PM BST
DRAW 7.30 friday evening - methinks I'd best not volunteer Silly
Report madhatters September 11, 2013 8:46 PM BST
If you need a randomiser UD stick me on list
HTH
Report undecided September 11, 2013 9:03 PM BST
ok madhatters, thanks, so just to confirm you'll do the player list and I will do the group list.
Please come on this thread a few minutes before 7.30 on Friday and we'll synchronise clocks Cool
Report madhatters September 11, 2013 9:33 PM BST
No probs UD
How do you want it presented ? Just names ? As per your 8.22 post ?
Or numbered ?

I'm guessing you are going to re-draw every round ?
Rather than groups 1-8 top half & 9-16 bottom half
Report madhatters September 11, 2013 9:44 PM BST
Maybe there should be a back up
Not many buses round here but you never know what the tractor drivers are like Laugh
Report madhatters September 11, 2013 9:51 PM BST
the Lazy cow
Jumped over
The dozy bull

Test
Report undecided September 11, 2013 10:37 PM BST
Sorry madhatters, yeah just the names.
I will do a fresh draw every stage.
You ok with it, will you use excel or just mix them up manually?
I'm sure shane can be on hand if needed.
Report madhatters September 12, 2013 11:58 AM BST
Decisions decisions UD Grin
Alfabetti ?
Date of joining ?
Will just chop them abt
Might want to check tho that not 6 of me in draw Laugh
Report Shanelee1966 September 12, 2013 12:02 PM BST
You`ll make an excellent right hand man mad.
Report undecided September 13, 2013 2:18 PM BST
DRAW tonight, 7.30pm.
Competition commences Monday
Happy
Report Lampus September 13, 2013 2:20 PM BST
Is it live on SKY
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 2:21 PM BST
Nowt rong with my right hand Shiny Blush

The tv cameras ain't turned up here yet UD
Report undecided September 13, 2013 2:41 PM BST
SKY couldn't afford it, TV Turkmenistan bid highest and are rowing their way across the Caspian as we speak.
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 3:30 PM BST
I've started cutting the names up

So far i got
Bettys Castle
Zippers Bottom
Hong Kong in Sweden
Up the Pumphole

I am doing this right ?
Grin
Report pauli September 13, 2013 3:37 PM BST
Hope they delay the 7-30 at Wolves for the main event of the evening.
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 4:16 PM BST
It should be the Toast of Dunstall Park Grin
Report undecided September 13, 2013 5:05 PM BST
I think the clash may be my fault, but you know by the time I explain, sepp blatter style, which balls will be drawn from which pot at what time and how we've got to keep petemac away from salmon for reasons of international security, then the race might be over.

You ok for 7.35pm mad? Grin
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 5:58 PM BST
I'll be back Grin
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:24 PM BST
Are you back?
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 7:24 PM BST
Signing in UD
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:26 PM BST
ok cheers, we'll go for 7.35 post time then.
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 7:29 PM BST
Ok
No great science behind it
But if anyone is interested (or falloutGrin)i will put up what i did
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:31 PM BST
Welcome if you are tuning in for the first stage draw.

This is how it will work:

madhatters is posting 62 names in random order(two players are seeded into groups 1 & 2, see above).
At the same time, 7.35, I will post group numbers/positions in random order.

First player on mad's list will go into the first group position on my list and so on.
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:35 PM BST
2.2
3.2
2.4
12.3
10.4
9.4
13.4
11.3
10.3
6.4
12.4
5.4
5.2
12.2
14.2
6.3
16.1
9.3
8.4
14.3
16.2
1.4
2.3
9.2
11.1
15.2
5.3
4.1
14.1
12.1
16.4
14.4
7.4
7.3
10.2
15.3
11.4
8.2
13.1
10.1
8.1
6.1
3.4
8.3
11.2
4.3
9.1
1.3
16.3
7.1
1.2
6.2
4.4
15.4
13.3
3.1
4.2
5.1
15.1
13.2
7.2
3.3
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 7:35 PM BST
adamanty
raspberrybottom
Dan Chipowski
DubaiPrince
Aquarius
stewpot
lagmorian
DFCIRONMAN
Moose
CASanMartin
k sera sera
themuppet
buffythebookieslayer
Tingle Creek
hi 5's
petemac
Mikael D'Haguenet
alleged22
uptheboro
differentdrum
angeleyz
sonofshinner
razmos
SilverBuck1
duffy
Lampus
AyersRock
bettysboy
dukeofpuke
salmon spray
unluckyStu
madhatters
sixtwosix
FCH
china castle
Andrew In Sweden
pedro39
undecided
twm.
GEORGE.B
Ardross66
Stevie Gerrard
pauli
hong kong fooey
Kentish Man
Ming_the_Merciless
feastforfamine
s.kenbo
Sing when ur winning
Cloughie1
dogdayafternoon
SkyAtlantic
pumphol.
john.t
shearer2therestcue
DeSSieReborn
deadbrain59
the dealer
MALTWHIX
Ricky Santini
zipper
dunter1
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:36 PM BST
Thankyou madhatters.

I'll have the groups layouts up in a few minutes.
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 7:38 PM BST
No probs UD
Glad to help
Good luck

Oooo the tension
Oooo the groups of death Laugh
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:39 PM BST
Group 1
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
shanelee1966 v dogdayafternoon
s.kenbo v sonofshinner
shanelee1966 v s.kenbo
dogdayafternoon v sonofshinner
shanelee1966 v sonofshinner
dogdayafternoon v s.kenbo


Group 2
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
la mallatiere v adamanty
razmos v Dan Chipowski
la mallatiere v razmos
adamanty v Dan Chipowski
la mallatiere v Dan Chipowski
adamanty v razmos


Group 3
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
DeSSieReborn v raspberrybottom
dunter1 v pauli
DeSSieReborn v dunter1
raspberrybottom v pauli
DeSSieReborn v pauli
raspberrybottom v dunter1


Group 4
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
bettysboy v deadbrain59
Ming_the_Merciless v pumphol.
bettysboy v Ming_the_Merciless
deadbrain59 v pumphol.
bettysboy v pumphol.
deadbrain59 v Ming_the_Merciless


Group 5
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
the dealer v buffythebookieslayer
AyersRock v themuppet
the dealer v AyersRock
buffythebookieslayer v themuppet
the dealer v themuppet
buffythebookieslayer v AyersRock


Group 6
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Stevie Gerrard v SkyAtlantic
petemac v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v petemac
SkyAtlantic v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v CASanMartin
SkyAtlantic v petemac


Group 7
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Cloughie1 v zipper
FCH v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v FCH
zipper v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v sixtwosix
zipper v FCH


Group 8
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Ardross66 v undecided
hong kong fooey v uptheboro
Ardross66 v hong kong fooey
undecided v uptheboro
Ardross66 v uptheboro
undecided v hong kong fooey


Group 9
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
feastforfamine v SilverBuck1
alleged22 v stewpot
feastforfamine v alleged22
SilverBuck1 v stewpot
feastforfamine v stewpot
SilverBuck1 v alleged22


Group 10
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
GEORGE.B v china castle
Moose v Aquarius
GEORGE.B v Moose
china castle v Aquarius
GEORGE.B v Aquarius
china castle v Moose


Group 11
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
duffy v Kentish Man
DFCIRONMAN v pedro39
duffy v DFCIRONMAN
Kentish Man v pedro39
duffy v pedro39
Kentish Man v DFCIRONMAN


Group 12
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
salmon spray v Tingle Creek
DubaiPrince v k sera sera
salmon spray v DubaiPrince
Tingle Creek v k sera sera
salmon spray v k sera sera
Tingle Creek v DubaiPrince


Group 13
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
twm. v Ricky Santini
shearer2therestcue v lagmorian
twm. v shearer2therestcue
Ricky Santini v lagmorian
twm. v lagmorian
Ricky Santini v shearer2therestcue


Group 14
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
dukeofpuke v hi 5's
differentdrum v madhatters
dukeofpuke v differentdrum
hi 5's v madhatters
dukeofpuke v madhatters
hi 5's v differentdrum


Group 15
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
MALTWHIX v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v john.t
MALTWHIX v Andrew In Sweden
Lampus v john.t
MALTWHIX v john.t
Lampus v Andrew In Sweden


Group 16
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Mikael D'Haguenet v angeleyz
Sing when ur winning v unluckyStu
Mikael D'Haguenet v Sing when ur winning
angeleyz v unluckyStu
Mikael D'Haguenet v unluckyStu
angeleyz v Sing when ur winning
Report pauli September 13, 2013 7:40 PM BST
I'm thinking of withdrawing already.
Report undecided September 13, 2013 7:44 PM BST
I'll be happy to answer any questions about the comp before we start on Monday.
Report madhatters September 13, 2013 7:44 PM BST
Quik stuff UD
Some tight looking groups there
10 & 4 look full of Prem stars
Report Lampus September 13, 2013 7:45 PM BST
Tingle Creek v Salmon Spray

Those were the days my freinds
Report pauli September 13, 2013 7:51 PM BST
Thanks ud and mads.  All set for Monday.  Good luck everyone.
Report undecided September 13, 2013 8:07 PM BST
Top two from each group go through at the end of this stage, then we hold another draw, 32 players into 8 groups.
Report undecided September 13, 2013 8:09 PM BST
I'll put up the first week thread on Sunday, obviously the top two matches in each group are the ones scheduled for that first week.
Report Stevie Gerrard September 13, 2013 9:29 PM BST
I see I'm up against a premiership player for my opening match so he's probably an odds on playerWink. So a 6/4 winner should do the job LaughDevil
Report Stevie Gerrard September 13, 2013 9:33 PM BST
Group 10 looks like the group of death with naps champ china castle and York big comp winner George b in it
Report CASanMartin September 13, 2013 9:40 PM BST
Yeh but Stevie I've got 3 away games!
Report Stevie Gerrard September 13, 2013 9:53 PM BST
It should be interesting tactically cas, I'm thinking I may play the waiting game unless I see a real standout good thing at odds against but we shall see. I reckon most of the matches will be won by those who play late.
Report duffy September 13, 2013 11:55 PM BST
Agree with that Stevie, reckon it won't be long before you have 64 people all posting on a Saturday, duplicates galoreWinkGrin
Report bettysboy September 14, 2013 9:58 AM BST
Yippee - 3 home games... home and hosed Wink
Report petemac September 14, 2013 11:16 AM BST
No Salmon , gutted.
Report Shanelee1966 September 14, 2013 11:29 AM BST
Think I`ll have another read through the rules before I kick-off Laugh
Report s.kenbo September 14, 2013 1:46 PM BST
Only just seen the draw.

I've just had another skim through the rules Shane, from what I can gather you have to try and find the shortest priced runner of the day before your opponent. Laugh
Report zipper September 14, 2013 1:47 PM BST
Undecided  ..? re the comp  . each group play the other guys in that group 3 times  can we  /i put up one nap  any day  and win or lose that stands  eg . i put up micky mouse  it wins at 15/2    thats my final score   its up to the other 3  to beat   15/2
Report bettysboy September 14, 2013 2:05 PM BST
zipper - its match play. You try to pick a bigger priced winner than your opponent in each of your 3 matches.
Report AyersRock September 14, 2013 10:27 PM BST
kicking off against someone called the muppet, i will be the muppet if i lose
Report undecided September 14, 2013 10:54 PM BST
zipper, as bettysboy says, you are playing one match per week next three weeks. Your main aim is to beat your opponent by whatever means you see best, for which you'd get 2pts. However there is a bonus pt for getting a winner above Evens, and 1 bonus pt for the best winner in the whole group stage.
Report duffy September 15, 2013 12:50 AM BST
undecided,
when you post your selection, do you need to state who your opponent is or which group you are in.?
Report unluckyStu September 15, 2013 12:37 PM BST
ConfusedCrazyTongue OutScaredSilly
Report salmon spray September 15, 2013 12:49 PM BST
I think those of us who more or less understand the rules have a big advantage here        Cool
Report Lampus September 15, 2013 1:09 PM BST
We plebs  hate rulesCry
Report undecided September 15, 2013 2:10 PM BST
Hi duffy, I'll be posting the group updates regularly, so the match details will be at the head of each thread and throughout, I don't think it will be necessary.
Report DeSSieReborn September 16, 2013 2:02 PM BST
salmon spray 15 Sep 13 12:49 
I think those of us who more or less understand the rules have a big advantage here

You might have if you werent in with Tingle Wink
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