A few weeks ago I would have agreed, but when you compare Rebecca's version of Satisfaction with that of Aretha's the lack of expression and movement means she can't sell the song as well as Aretha does.
It was bizarre how Louis was congratulating her for her dancing last night when she didn't dance at all. Standing static when everyone around you are dancing their heads off may have worked for Terry Hall, but it doesn't work on XF.
A few weeks ago I would have agreed, but when you compare Rebecca's version of Satisfaction with that of Aretha's the lack of expression and movement means she can't sell the song as well as Aretha does.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eto2urJTKnohttp:
I saw The Specials quite a lot nearly 30 years ago. Must admit, Terry Hall was a surprisingly charismatic performer.
I remember a fight breaking out in the audience once. He stopped singing and started speaking to/at them, totally owned them and made them look like right d!ckheads. Think they slunk out tail between legs style.
I saw The Specials quite a lot nearly 30 years ago. Must admit, Terry Hall was a surprisingly charismatic performer.I remember a fight breaking out in the audience once. He stopped singing and started speaking to/at them, totally owned them and mad
bunny - no one is denying that she has more to learn when it comes to performance and I'm sure that will come with more confidence. But she's never going to be an Alexandra burke or Cher and do big dance routines or stare down the camera looking sincere, lip trembling as she belts out the big note. That's not her (thank God) As she says herself she's a restrained, understated singer and doesn't want to be anything else. Whether that is enough is debateable. I believe it is. She was top on my 'to win' stats last night and if she reprieves MYFML in the final with plenty of Cowell pimpage she can topple Matt.
I'm sure however she does there will be the usual clowns on here (not you btw :) ) moaning about the lack of dancing. No doubt they're the same people who obsessed about Vickers' 'Claw' and Lena's funny accent and naff dancing.
bunny - no one is denying that she has more to learn when it comes to performance and I'm sure that will come with more confidence.But she's never going to be an Alexandra burke or Cher and do big dance routines or stare down the camera looking sinc
..and yep she deserved to do better over here, but with our sniffy attitude towards Eurovision, she was always likely to struggle.
That's the one zoom :)..and yep she deserved to do better over here, but with our sniffy attitude towards Eurovision, she was always likely to struggle.
its interesting fll, i dont think rebecca needs to be able to dance, but i think her inanimacy (is that the right word) is actually a little off putting, it makes her look uncomfortable and therefore slightly unsettles the audience. i dont think she needs to do much at all, but i do think she needs to do more...
its interesting fll, i dont think rebecca needs to be able to dance, but i think her inanimacy (is that the right word) is actually a little off putting, it makes her look uncomfortable and therefore slightly unsettles the audience. i dont think she
she gives nothing, do not feel i know the girl at all, and she comes across as smug to me when she is singing and also when the judges giving their comments
she gives nothing, do not feel i know the girl at all, and she comes across as smug to me when she is singing and also when the judges giving their comments
Nick, I agree she'd be even better if she was more animated in her uptempo performances, but for me her voice is so good that many ofthose who criticise just sound petty to me. It's rather like watching Rooney score a hattrick and then complaining about his lack of defending...or maybe Fergie should stick him in goal next week to show his versatility.
The vocal on her 1st song was majestic. As it was on MYFML and Wicked Game. Everytime I watch those 2 performances in particular I'm just stunned at how good she is.
A repeat in the final and she'll trounce 1D and will give Matt a good run for his money.
Nick, I agree she'd be even better if she was more animated in her uptempo performances, but for me her voice is so good that many ofthose who criticise just sound petty to me.It's rather like watching Rooney score a hattrick and then complaining abo
hmm, ok mate, i like your confidence but i must be honest i dont share it. i think if she all of a sudden shimmied a bit, showed a bit of style in her movement it really could make all the difference. just my view...
it's different from rooney analogy because her not moving to me detracts ever so slightly from her overall attractiveness. rooney scores three and he has done his job
hmm, ok mate, i like your confidence but i must be honest i dont share it. i think if she all of a sudden shimmied a bit, showed a bit of style in her movement it really could make all the difference. just my view...it's different from rooney analogy
I'm not sure we're that far apart nick. We both agree she'd be even better if she was more confident and relaxed on stage and therefore able to show more personality. The argument is how much that detracts from her performance and in turn her chance of winning.
I'm not sure we're that far apart nick.We both agree she'd be even better if she was more confident and relaxed on stage and therefore able to show more personality.The argument is how much that detracts from her performance and in turn her chance of
I've always held the view that Rebecca's style is too subtle to win over the majority of the final vote. She still hasn't done anything on the show to make me change this opinion. The excessive ramping from the judging panel is drawing viewers' attention towards her but is also suggesting that she's not polled that great to date.
The 'not moving' thing basically means that her performances lack energy. It was a subtle variation on a dance floor classic which had quality but failed to ignite. There will be many people that thoroughly enjoyed it, I'm sure.
Discussions ought to be in context of the xf.I've always held the view that Rebecca's style is too subtle to win over the majority of the final vote. She still hasn't done anything on the show to make me change this opinion. The excessive ramping fro
maybe if the judges weren't trying to tell everyone how well she moved etc... then it wouldn't be focussed on. But listen to the comments after last night and you'd think she'd done a full on dance routine. She clearly has the best most original voice and i agree to be the type of singer she is she doesn't need to have full on dance routines etc.. but don't try and pretend she is when she clearly isn't.
maybe if the judges weren't trying to tell everyone how well she moved etc... then it wouldn't be focussed on. But listen to the comments after last night and you'd think she'd done a full on dance routine. She clearly has the best most original voic
Whilst 'The Singing candle's' a decent singer you'd think she must surely move a little bit! You've got to perform the song and specially for a girl it's very unusual to not see them dance/sway to the music. I honestly think she just can't dance so over the years when she's been out with her girlie mates for a night out whilst they dance she must just stand at the bar or something. About a dozen songs now and she's barely moved an inch. Very unusual you can't deny that.
Whilst 'The Singing candle's' a decent singer you'd think she must surely move a little bit! You've got to perform the song and specially for a girl it's very unusual to not see them dance/sway to the music. I honestly think she just can't dance so
the simple fact is that she will probably end up doing best out of all of them,her style looks made to do well in the states a much bigger pond than the uk.whether she wins this or not does not realy matter in the scheme of things.
the simple fact is that she will probably end up doing best out of all of them,her style looks made to do well in the states a much bigger pond than the uk.whether she wins this or not does not realy matter in the scheme of things.
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It's called 'performance' James from the North. Being able to 'sell' the song. Stiff as a poker and boring with the same old song week after week is why she's known to not move and apart from the very first week hasn't in about 10 attempts. When she actually said three weeks ago "I was out of my comfort zone having to walk to the front of the satge" Well!
Say it with me James ...........
hmmmmmmmmm!
"The Singing Candle" It's called 'performance' James from the North. Being able to 'sell' the song. Stiff as a poker and boring with the same old song week after week is why she's known to not move and apart from the very first week hasn't in abou
Interesting stuff, though i'm not convinced the tools people use to measure sentiment on twitter actually work. I prefer to do it manually.
Lou- how many times are you going to say the same thing? I might have to go on the beta forum and find the block function:)
Cheers A1.Interesting stuff, though i'm not convinced the tools people use to measure sentiment on twitter actually work.I prefer to do it manually.Lou- how many times are you going to say the same thing?I might have to go on the beta forum and find
Lou is officially the most boring person on the x factor forum.He must be bordering on skint and desparate for the cash but upset that Rebecca is improving so fast.
Lou is officially the most boring person on the x factor forum.He must be bordering on skint and desparate for the cash but upset that Rebeccais improving so fast.
Women who can take the p*ss out of themselves are few and far between. Another reason to like her. Can't imagine Cher doing something similar. Or Matt (I'm a serious artist) Cardle.
Women who can take the p*ss out of themselves are few and far between. Another reason to like her. Can't imagine Cher doing something similar. Or Matt (I'm a serious artist) Cardle.
Serously now all ribbing aside why do you think she doesn't move. It is very strange isn't it specially for a girl. I commented on another thread that say she went to a nightclub with her girlie mates I honestly think she must just stand to the side as I'm sure she just can't dance or else she would surely? Very unusual. What do you think George?
GeorgeSerously now all ribbing aside why do you think she doesn't move. It is very strange isn't it specially for a girl. I commented on another thread that say she went to a nightclub with her girlie mates I honestly think she must just stand to t
Lou, Matt himself said he doesn't like to move but nobody picked up on that. He was like a fish out of water in his vest witht he dancing girls. He likes to SIT () and play his guitar.
Rebecca is a good old fashioned torch/blues singer. Old fashioned enough to be modern. She don't need to move foro me just use her hands/arms/eyes more.
Be disaster if she is forced to jig around in finals week.
Lou, Matt himself said he doesn't like to move but nobody picked up on that. He was like a fish out of water in his vest witht he dancing girls. He likes to SIT () and play his guitar.Rebecca is a good old fashioned torch/blues singer. Old fashioned
But at least Matt has moved, moved around, played with the mic', did do a couple of songs interacting with the girls. All not a great deal but he has. Why do you think she doesn't move? Do you think my thoughts about her going out with her mates for a night and not dancing are possibly true? I just can't see how she would join in with the girls and have a dance.
With me once that second babycham kicks in I'm there on the floor!
GeorgeBut at least Matt has moved, moved around, played with the mic', did do a couple of songs interacting with the girls. All not a great deal but he has. Why do you think she doesn't move? Do you think my thoughts about her going out with her m
She's shy and self conscious and still lacking in confidence and that makes her diffident re her performance. I just wish I was her mentor/singing coach/motivator and she'd piss this.
her shyness etc also gain her votes from women so not all bad news.
She's shy and self conscious and still lacking in confidence and that makes her diffident re her performance. I just wish I was her mentor/singing coach/motivator and she'd piss this.her shyness etc also gain her votes from women so not all bad news
Do you think my thoughts about her going out with her mates for a night and not dancing are possibly true? I just can't see how she would join in with the girls and have a dance.?
GeorgeDo you think my thoughts about her going out with her mates for a night and not dancing are possibly true? I just can't see how she would join in with the girls and have a dance.?
Yes I agree Lou tho she may be life and soul after a couple of drinks. Even as a wall flower she would be the one hit on by the guys; though most would think she was out of their league..which she probably is.
I think a lot of people will vote for her because they they will applaud themselves for recognising how classy she is.
Yes I agree Lou tho she may be life and soul after a couple of drinks. Even as a wall flower she would be the one hit on by the guys; though most would think she was out of their league..which she probably is.I think a lot of people will vote for her
The video is hilarious - good on her for having a sense of humour. This won't do her chances of winning any harm at all...
Lou does make some very good points though. As Nick says, it's her awkwardness on stage as much as anything else that makes the audience feel uncomfortable.
PERFORMING a song is just an essential part of the business. You don't have to dance around like crazy, but you DO have to show emotion, passion and communicate with the audience. The list that the OP gave included examples of just how you can perform a song without moving much. Aretha is a class case in point.
It's not just the standing still - it's the expressionless look on Rebecca's face all of the time. Statuesque she may be - but she always reminds me of a rabbit in the headlights.
What surprises me most is that they've obviously not been able to bring out her confidence in 10 weeks of live shows. With all of the so called experts on hand, you'd have thought this was an area they really would have worked on.
The video is hilarious - good on her for having a sense of humour. This won't do her chances of winning any harm at all...Lou does make some very good points though. As Nick says, it's her awkwardness on stage as much as anything else that makes th