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Matt
The default winner, as he has been from his bootcamp performance.
A good looking guy who has a pretty decent if uninspiring (for me) voice, who on the whole comes over well on the show if you buy into his mock sincerity. Which most appear to do so.
His so called 'outburst' at Wagner last night was a fuss about nothing and will have done him no harm whatsoever.
He'd need to reproduce one of his foul mouthed newspaper rants on one of the live shows to do himself any real damage and I suspect he's way too cute to do that.
A worthy favoruite but beatable.
1D
Another OK performance this week to add to their previous OK performances.
Will OK before enough to win with the help of Cowell? Maybe, as we saw last year with Joe ;), but I still believe they'll come up well short and could find themselves in a 'shock' B2 in the next couple of weeks.
When I look on twitter every week I struggle to find any support beyond text speaking teenage girls.
They're just not broadening their support and I believe they'll come up well short against an on form Rebecca and Matt.
I can see why the market fears them given they have Cowell in their corner, but I'm far from certain that he actually wants them to win above others
Way too short for me.
Rebecca
The best voice in one of these shows ever (for melv ;) )
Not this week though. She started badly and it went downhill from there. I thought she was going to stop at one point, so fairplay to her for getting to the end and despite Cowell's praise, for realising and admitting that she was rubbish.
Just a one off? As a backer and a fan I hope so, but the worry has to be that she won't regain her confidence that she'd been gaining over the previous weeks.
The odds are she'll nail at least one of her songs this week and Cowell will heap praise on her and congratulate her on an excellent comeback.
He clearly still wants her to win, as we saw with him picking her out again last night, despite her below par performance and he'll favour her in the final over 1D imo. Assuming she regains her form of course.
I can see why the market has lost a little confidence in her, but for me it's been overdone and one week I reckon one of these flip flops will stick.
Cher
Where was her massive fanbase this week? Out tarmacing pensioners drives no doubt. (one for the daily mail readers)
More seriously though, she doesn't have a massive fanbase. Just a small and very vocal one, who as the numbers dwindled, was always going to be swamped by the mainstream viewers and voters. Just as Aidens fanbase was and I suspect 1D's will be too.
Rapping just isn't voter friendly on a show like this and her sneering, rather cocky looking face means she was always going to struggle to endear herself to the audience.
My niece described her as looking like one of the girls at school who would bully you and reading general internet opinion she's not alone in that thought.
As I've said before, she's not just marmite, she's that swedish rotting herring.
Virtually no hope and should probably be the outsider of the field.
Wagner
Very little chance. Little is better than none though.
The little hope is a RATM type mass campaign which could give Cowell the ultimate poke in the eye by having someone who can't sing or dance winning his flagship show.
What a glorious dream that is. You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, etc....
I know others disagree but for me the maths are possible. 500,000 people multi voting for him in the final would see him winning easily. iirc there were nearly 1M who signed up for the RATM campaign and in terms of motivation a Christmas no.1 was nothing compared with this massively greater prize.
Mary
Not a huge amount to say. A very decent singer who I'm sure appeals more to this audience than some of those shorter in the market.
Cowell obviously knows that as since week 1 he's been loath to give her too much praise.
I'm sure her song and performance was right up his alley this week, but his comments were very muted.
It suggests to me that she's still polling well and he's afraid she'll take the 3rd spot in the final above his peado project.
No real chance of winning but could be a surpise (to some) finalist.
Katie
If Vickers was marmite and Cher is swedish rotting fish, then Katie is horse meat.
The French may well like their horse meat and having watched a few overly dramatic French films they clearly like their drama queens, but neither are very British.
Corned beef and Stoicism is much more our thing.
On a personal note, along with Rebecca, she's the one who I look forward to most each week.
She's always very watchable, but rarely very likeable.
Surely only a loon or a Frenchman could believe she has a cat in hells chance of winning.
A toss up between her and Cher who should be the bigger price. Given she's been bottom only the 4 times, I'd probably favour her.
So it's still a 2 horse race for me. Matt and Rebecca, with Rebecca storming to victory and replacing Cheryl as our new national sweetheart.
All honest and dishonest views welcomed.
The default winner, as he has been from his bootcamp performance.
A good looking guy who has a pretty decent if uninspiring (for me) voice, who on the whole comes over well on the show if you buy into his mock sincerity. Which most appear to do so.
His so called 'outburst' at Wagner last night was a fuss about nothing and will have done him no harm whatsoever.
He'd need to reproduce one of his foul mouthed newspaper rants on one of the live shows to do himself any real damage and I suspect he's way too cute to do that.
A worthy favoruite but beatable.
1D
Another OK performance this week to add to their previous OK performances.
Will OK before enough to win with the help of Cowell? Maybe, as we saw last year with Joe ;), but I still believe they'll come up well short and could find themselves in a 'shock' B2 in the next couple of weeks.
When I look on twitter every week I struggle to find any support beyond text speaking teenage girls.
They're just not broadening their support and I believe they'll come up well short against an on form Rebecca and Matt.
I can see why the market fears them given they have Cowell in their corner, but I'm far from certain that he actually wants them to win above others
Way too short for me.
Rebecca
The best voice in one of these shows ever (for melv ;) )
Not this week though. She started badly and it went downhill from there. I thought she was going to stop at one point, so fairplay to her for getting to the end and despite Cowell's praise, for realising and admitting that she was rubbish.
Just a one off? As a backer and a fan I hope so, but the worry has to be that she won't regain her confidence that she'd been gaining over the previous weeks.
The odds are she'll nail at least one of her songs this week and Cowell will heap praise on her and congratulate her on an excellent comeback.
He clearly still wants her to win, as we saw with him picking her out again last night, despite her below par performance and he'll favour her in the final over 1D imo. Assuming she regains her form of course.
I can see why the market has lost a little confidence in her, but for me it's been overdone and one week I reckon one of these flip flops will stick.
Cher
Where was her massive fanbase this week? Out tarmacing pensioners drives no doubt. (one for the daily mail readers)
More seriously though, she doesn't have a massive fanbase. Just a small and very vocal one, who as the numbers dwindled, was always going to be swamped by the mainstream viewers and voters. Just as Aidens fanbase was and I suspect 1D's will be too.
Rapping just isn't voter friendly on a show like this and her sneering, rather cocky looking face means she was always going to struggle to endear herself to the audience.
My niece described her as looking like one of the girls at school who would bully you and reading general internet opinion she's not alone in that thought.
As I've said before, she's not just marmite, she's that swedish rotting herring.
Virtually no hope and should probably be the outsider of the field.
Wagner
Very little chance. Little is better than none though.
The little hope is a RATM type mass campaign which could give Cowell the ultimate poke in the eye by having someone who can't sing or dance winning his flagship show.
What a glorious dream that is. You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, etc....
I know others disagree but for me the maths are possible. 500,000 people multi voting for him in the final would see him winning easily. iirc there were nearly 1M who signed up for the RATM campaign and in terms of motivation a Christmas no.1 was nothing compared with this massively greater prize.
Mary
Not a huge amount to say. A very decent singer who I'm sure appeals more to this audience than some of those shorter in the market.
Cowell obviously knows that as since week 1 he's been loath to give her too much praise.
I'm sure her song and performance was right up his alley this week, but his comments were very muted.
It suggests to me that she's still polling well and he's afraid she'll take the 3rd spot in the final above his peado project.
No real chance of winning but could be a surpise (to some) finalist.
Katie
If Vickers was marmite and Cher is swedish rotting fish, then Katie is horse meat.
The French may well like their horse meat and having watched a few overly dramatic French films they clearly like their drama queens, but neither are very British.
Corned beef and Stoicism is much more our thing.
On a personal note, along with Rebecca, she's the one who I look forward to most each week.
She's always very watchable, but rarely very likeable.
Surely only a loon or a Frenchman could believe she has a cat in hells chance of winning.
A toss up between her and Cher who should be the bigger price. Given she's been bottom only the 4 times, I'd probably favour her.
So it's still a 2 horse race for me. Matt and Rebecca, with Rebecca storming to victory and replacing Cheryl as our new national sweetheart.
All honest and dishonest views welcomed.
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I dont think reading DS makes you an insider Kitten. [;)]
Lou, I didn't ask you why you've fallen out with these guys. Perhaps their behaviour was bad, I don't know, but does it not concern you that something about your behaviour brings the worst out in otherwise very tolerant and pleasant people?
Cider
I'm sure he doesn't start threads in caps saying he's an 'insider'. All I'm saying is unless you tell me who how am I supposed to know? That's a fair question surely?
I'm sure he doesn't start threads in caps saying he's an 'insider'. All I'm saying is unless you tell me who how am I supposed to know? That's a fair question surely?
nick
It's a shame yes but supposing one of your mates was badmouthing you and you found out for arguememnts sake. Wouldn't you think 'well ok then i won't have nothing to do with you anymore' I then leave it at that. I wish them good luck with their bets and can't see what they're now saying as they come up as blocked. Like I said it is a shame but why should I put up with that just because they're jealous I pick a lot of X Factor winners and they don't like me pulling them up when they spout nonsense on here.
It's a shame yes but supposing one of your mates was badmouthing you and you found out for arguememnts sake. Wouldn't you think 'well ok then i won't have nothing to do with you anymore' I then leave it at that. I wish them good luck with their bets and can't see what they're now saying as they come up as blocked. Like I said it is a shame but why should I put up with that just because they're jealous I pick a lot of X Factor winners and they don't like me pulling them up when they spout nonsense on here.
they are all saying how much they respect your ability at picking winners, and they are all saying how jealous they are. but on the negative side they are also saying they don't like it when you pull them up for spouting nonsense on here...
nick
If they're honestly saying that then fair enough that's decent of them. But if they want to spout nonsense I'll keep pulling them up. Real madrid not as big a team as Orient FC someone put. Now I know it was tongue in cheek but come on!
If they're honestly saying that then fair enough that's decent of them. But if they want to spout nonsense I'll keep pulling them up. Real madrid not as big a team as Orient FC someone put. Now I know it was tongue in cheek but come on!
Let's not tell Lou who the 'insider' is [;)]
I can see it's starting to wind him up a bit
(no offence Lou)
I can see it's starting to wind him up a bit
(no offence Lou)
George
To be fair I hardly need him do I!
Obviously I'd like to know of course but let's leave it at that then if Cider won't say then it just backs up my "Well how am I supposed to know?" statement. I'll not mention it again unless somebody else does how's that. I can't be fairer than that.
To be fair I hardly need him do I!
Obviously I'd like to know of course but let's leave it at that then if Cider won't say then it just backs up my "Well how am I supposed to know?" statement. I'll not mention it again unless somebody else does how's that. I can't be fairer than that.
I think Lou has just proved he's only interested in the sound of his own voice if, over the years, he hasn't read what other people have had to say carefully enough to work out who our top insider is.
like the man who cant pronounce his f's and his th's - he can't say fairer than that.....
I can post it because Lou has me blocked ;)
It's ......
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It's ......
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nick
Good old gag which I almost posted myself when I said it. I know it's not 'lay' which means we're down to a hundred or so i guess.
Good old gag which I almost posted myself when I said it. I know it's not 'lay' which means we're down to a hundred or so i guess.
Blimey not him! Even I can work that out!
5 leaves I agree with most of your views.I think Rebecca will win.Yesterday is an easy song and I think
the trouble with Cher and rebecca back stage made rebecca have a nervous week as her focus was lost slightly
although strangly her yesterday was all her own and not a copy like the rest of them.
Rebecca in frees songs towards the end of the show will leave her miles clear in the lead and agree with you she
will replace Cheryl as the nations darling.
the trouble with Cher and rebecca back stage made rebecca have a nervous week as her focus was lost slightly
although strangly her yesterday was all her own and not a copy like the rest of them.
Rebecca in frees songs towards the end of the show will leave her miles clear in the lead and agree with you she
will replace Cheryl as the nations darling.
dont buy into theis rebecca confidence thing.Rebecca will only get stronger.
not 100 per cent sure about pm bets, but reckon both last two posts are lay prof. greetings sire, the lengths some people will go to to protect their investments.....
sick of tellinG you all about rebecca;CHOSEN ONE
yes mate but do you have to tell me through three accounts and three different names. little excessive isnt it?
i agree some are so blind and or have to much money to throw away
I'm late catching up with this thread - but I agree with FLL and most of the initial posts. It's been looking like a two horse race for some time now, although I do think Cowell will at least ensure that his 1D makes it a three. I'm with Jack in that the teenie vote IS still very important, but you need to appeal to a broad church to win the X Factor.
Rhydian didn't win because he didn't appeal to the young audience - whereas Leon had the support of young girls, mums and grans alike. Likewise Leona, Alexandra, Joe - they appealed to both demographics. Cher will fall foul because she only appeals to one audience too - and us oldies just don't get it!
That's why it could be Matt OR Rebecca at this stage - they are bland enough to generate support across the generation gap. It might be questionable whether 1D will appeal beyond the 8-13 age group, although like JLS they'll probably attract enough of the mum support to get close to the final.
Rhydian didn't win because he didn't appeal to the young audience - whereas Leon had the support of young girls, mums and grans alike. Likewise Leona, Alexandra, Joe - they appealed to both demographics. Cher will fall foul because she only appeals to one audience too - and us oldies just don't get it!
That's why it could be Matt OR Rebecca at this stage - they are bland enough to generate support across the generation gap. It might be questionable whether 1D will appeal beyond the 8-13 age group, although like JLS they'll probably attract enough of the mum support to get close to the final.
Agree with your thoughts on, fll.
Mary and Rebecca are surely the two that Cowell doesn't want to see win as they both reinforce the 'cliched reality show winner' assumptions whilst not having the actual star quality to be particularly useful to him.
i.e Mary as a fairly poor SuBo/McManus style underdog and Rebecca as a very poor Lewis/Burke 'doesn't matter that she's boring she's a real singer' equivalent.
Katie also has a nice 'real' voice but is at least interesting (albeit in a relentless carcrash kind of way) and Cher is a work in progress but clearly special... so it's not surprising that they've been afforded rings of protection for now at least.
Think you've naile it on One Direction.
Mary and Rebecca are surely the two that Cowell doesn't want to see win as they both reinforce the 'cliched reality show winner' assumptions whilst not having the actual star quality to be particularly useful to him.
i.e Mary as a fairly poor SuBo/McManus style underdog and Rebecca as a very poor Lewis/Burke 'doesn't matter that she's boring she's a real singer' equivalent.
Katie also has a nice 'real' voice but is at least interesting (albeit in a relentless carcrash kind of way) and Cher is a work in progress but clearly special... so it's not surprising that they've been afforded rings of protection for now at least.
Think you've naile it on One Direction.
Glee cast for XF semis? Good for tween/teen vote?
The cast of Glee will reportedly perform on next week's X Factor semi-final.
It was previously reported that Simon Cowell was organising the appearance, which will apparently see them perform a medley of tracks from the hit show.
A post on the official Twitter page for Alex and Lucy's In:Demand radio show read: "OMGlee!! The Glee cast are set to perform on X Factor. "
It then added a link to Examiner, which appears to be the original source.
It was announced last week that the show's cast will embark on a European tour next year, which includes five confirmed dates in the UK and Ireland.
The X Factor semi-final will take place over the weekend of December 4 and 5.
The cast of Glee will reportedly perform on next week's X Factor semi-final.
It was previously reported that Simon Cowell was organising the appearance, which will apparently see them perform a medley of tracks from the hit show.
A post on the official Twitter page for Alex and Lucy's In:Demand radio show read: "OMGlee!! The Glee cast are set to perform on X Factor. "
It then added a link to Examiner, which appears to be the original source.
It was announced last week that the show's cast will embark on a European tour next year, which includes five confirmed dates in the UK and Ireland.
The X Factor semi-final will take place over the weekend of December 4 and 5.
Does sound like SC's secret recipe to get 1D there at all costs, yep
Whether it works, gawd knows. The voting audience will have a massive demographic spread by then, and that surely increases Mary's chances of making up the numbers in the final
Whether it works, gawd knows. The voting audience will have a massive demographic spread by then, and that surely increases Mary's chances of making up the numbers in the final
Even if there's a double elimination this weekend, that will still leave four in for the final, no?!
That would make it interesting - throws a bit of a potential spanner in the works.
That would make it interesting - throws a bit of a potential spanner in the works.
they've still not confirmed the numbers for the final weekend. Thread with ITV statement ttt'd.
If it is a 4 way final it means all judgs may have an act each making it interesting with Louis having Mary/Wagner toss up.
true although 4 is the big favourite
really interesting re glee, sounds like cowell is pulling out all the stops to get the teens in - should be enough to get them to the final, which will prob justify a recording contract in cowell's eyes.
really interesting re glee, sounds like cowell is pulling out all the stops to get the teens in - should be enough to get them to the final, which will prob justify a recording contract in cowell's eyes.
They've purposely left Rebecca's good stuff to the end of the comp. You think she won't/can't do up-tempo numbers? Rest assured she'll be dropping the big stuff either this week or next week, from then on in the competition will be over.
That dirge last week was surely not part of the plan though?
I agree however, it can only get (a lot) better
I agree however, it can only get (a lot) better
Even if 'they' were wanting to handicap her by nailing her to the spot until the end of the series it's hard to imagine she'd go along with it if she was actually a real all round performer?
She's just a voice, which in turn puts pressure on the voice, hence inconsistent results.
She's just a voice, which in turn puts pressure on the voice, hence inconsistent results.
No last week was poor. hindsight says that song requires a flat voice not a wobbly one like Rebecca's, Cowell was visually disappointed....he'll be taking care of things from now on.
I think it was telling that they didn't pan her, because they could have if they had wanted to. Reminded me a little of when Jordin Sparks had a real nightmare with the Bon Jovi theme and they just brushed it off as being not her thing, ignore it, etc.
Last week was definitely NOT the plan. In Beatles week the Liverpudlian Lass was supposed to shine. Oops!
The fact that they've never commented on Rebecca being a one trick pony, not doing up-tempo numbers, or even attempting to move at all, proves to me that they are giving her as easy a passage to the final as possible.
Unfortunately for them, last week it didn't pay off!
Good on Rebecca for admitting it though - that in itself will win her support.
The fact that they've never commented on Rebecca being a one trick pony, not doing up-tempo numbers, or even attempting to move at all, proves to me that they are giving her as easy a passage to the final as possible.
Unfortunately for them, last week it didn't pay off!
Good on Rebecca for admitting it though - that in itself will win her support.
I don't agree that Cowell doesn't want Rebecca to win, jm. He loves her, but I do agree she wins or loses on her vocal.
She isn't suddenly going to knock everyone dead with a massive dance routine.
She isn't suddenly going to knock everyone dead with a massive dance routine.
..and yep I agree squares. Cowell even picked her out as one of the top 3 performers on the sunday show.
Didn't SCowell start niggling about Stacey not moving towards the end of last year?
it's in her favour to keep the goods towards the end , she'll understand that...what can the others do to wow us? It's like Carrie Underwood on AI sang country all the way through then done heart alone there was only one winner after that.
Unless I'm very much mistaken Cowell didn't want Stacey to win sq ;-)
It's ridiculous though
Aiden, Mary, you do the same thing every week, do something a bit different!
Rebecca, 1d I love the way you do the same thing every week
Aiden, Mary, you do the same thing every week, do something a bit different!
Rebecca, 1d I love the way you do the same thing every week
Thinking Rebecca is keeping something back, is delusional.
exactly GB, made an issue of it with Stacey but hasn't mentioned it with Rebecca - YET
think he is most unlikely to as well. wouldnt it be something though if they had held something back and she wowed us with uptempo. think everyone would be delighted, well, bar lou.
She could clearly belt out a disco anthem, with 1st class production values and backing vocals
Rock a little more difficult to envisage
Rock a little more difficult to envisage
simon done it before on AI, peaking to early is never good. She will be doing up-tempo in the next 2 weeks. If it doesn't come off then fair enough that'll be it money gone, but if it does then that'll be it, winner. at 4/1 i'm more than happy to take that risk.
Also difficult to envisage Matt in a worse position than now after two 'rock' themed songs?
A good chance that he will remind everyone why he is the likely winner this week.
Matt is the competitor with something in reserve, he is clearly at home with the guitar which has only been wheeled out once.
1D will do what 1D do of course, stand on boxes, get 'help' on large parts of their track and the screamers will make them seem popular.
A good chance that he will remind everyone why he is the likely winner this week.
Matt is the competitor with something in reserve, he is clearly at home with the guitar which has only been wheeled out once.
1D will do what 1D do of course, stand on boxes, get 'help' on large parts of their track and the screamers will make them seem popular.
It's the XF equivalent of backing BB runners on the basis of crowd noise
A while since these things were decided by the clapometer
A while since these things were decided by the clapometer
Fig my views on Cher and Rebecca are pretty much the reverse of yours so we're not going to agree there at all.
I thought your comment on One Direction was on the money. i.e. Being rightly feared as Cowell was behind them but your not being at all sure he actually wanted them to win.
When I hear him voicing his enthusiasm for them breaking the mould of the expected winners of the comp, that enthusiasm seems real but is it actually directed at them or are they just the 'backup mouldbreakers'?
You rightly point out their appeal beyond the teen market is limited, but also their potential appeal beyond the country is also open to question. Sure he can squeeze some 1D hits out of the fickle teen audience for a while but their main use to him might be to safely guide home a potentially far bigger international fish before (unwittingly!) falling on their swords at a late hurdle. Maybe a rotting fish
I thought your comment on One Direction was on the money. i.e. Being rightly feared as Cowell was behind them but your not being at all sure he actually wanted them to win.
When I hear him voicing his enthusiasm for them breaking the mould of the expected winners of the comp, that enthusiasm seems real but is it actually directed at them or are they just the 'backup mouldbreakers'?
You rightly point out their appeal beyond the teen market is limited, but also their potential appeal beyond the country is also open to question. Sure he can squeeze some 1D hits out of the fickle teen audience for a while but their main use to him might be to safely guide home a potentially far bigger international fish before (unwittingly!) falling on their swords at a late hurdle. Maybe a rotting fish
The journey theory is way overdone on these things, some front runners win and some come from behind.
At some point one would have to consider backing Rebecca I suppos but I'd rather wait and see how this week pans out.
At the end of the day this is an entertainment show, even if as some think, Cowell wants to nobble Matt, he is unlikely to try it in rock week were Matt could comfortably produce some smashing performances
At some point one would have to consider backing Rebecca I suppos but I'd rather wait and see how this week pans out.
At the end of the day this is an entertainment show, even if as some think, Cowell wants to nobble Matt, he is unlikely to try it in rock week were Matt could comfortably produce some smashing performances
Yes, in terms of any of these contestants still having something up their sleeve in reserve I agree that's Matt.
The rest of them look pretty much exposed now... Matt's the one who could turn in a show-stopper again.
The rest of them look pretty much exposed now... Matt's the one who could turn in a show-stopper again.
yeah agreed, one would have to think that if matt is going to lose it will be in a tight final two, having traded at around 1.4
i think the 3s ain't bad value coming into rock week
i think the 3s ain't bad value coming into rock week
think that's spot on
I agree that to say Rebecca is holding something back is just clutching at straws. Every week she surely goes out there and try's her best with the songs she's given/chose as anyone would in her shoes. She's had 7 attempts now and that is her best! She was awful last week we all know that and it is strange how the judges didn't tell her so woth Cowell even praising her .... that's ridiculous. they don't mention she's doing the same thing every week either wheras Mary got picked up on her third attempt! Bar the first week she's sang 6 ballads and not moved an inch barely. Exclaiming last week "I was out of my comfort zone having to walk to the front of the stage"!!
I'm sure she'll do better this week but she's drifted from about 2-1 last week to 4-1 now which obviously isn't a good sign. I'm really not convinced she'll make the final 3 even. She's due to sing first which she hasn't yet and had the pimp slot two weeks ago delivering another 'quite good' performance. Surely quite good isn't the winner of the X Factor.
I'm sure she'll do better this week but she's drifted from about 2-1 last week to 4-1 now which obviously isn't a good sign. I'm really not convinced she'll make the final 3 even. She's due to sing first which she hasn't yet and had the pimp slot two weeks ago delivering another 'quite good' performance. Surely quite good isn't the winner of the X Factor.
In Rebecca's defence its very lazy to say that she does the same thing every week, 'Feeling Good' is a million miles away from 'Yesterday' and 'Why don't You Do Right?' is a completely different genre from 'Wicked Game'. Mary's first three songs, were very similar.
I suspect the laziness stems from her stage presentation.
High maintenance dress,expensive lipstick,hair up,no props,standing still etc
Leona tried bare feet,Alexandra was probably the most versatile and even Stacey was press ganged into a "sexy" routine.
High maintenance dress,expensive lipstick,hair up,no props,standing still etc
Leona tried bare feet,Alexandra was probably the most versatile and even Stacey was press ganged into a "sexy" routine.
lou wuite godd isnt enough u say;joe mceldereey;leon jackson;shayne ward all bad AND ALL WON LOL
bunny
She has been very samey though surely? I just honestly (only my opinion before everyone jumps at me) don't think she's good enough full stop.
She has been very samey though surely? I just honestly (only my opinion before everyone jumps at me) don't think she's good enough full stop.
lou you are missing the point with rebecca;she has been from start a slow burner and will start to boil from now with the help of the cowell machine
agreed lou its all about opinions but its well known that cowell thinks that she is apart from maybe 1d[for a couple of months]will make the most money for him and thats what its all about most of the time
Lou she has been more samey than Matt, less samey than Mary imo.
bunny
Yes take your point although at least Mary expresse her self a bit.
Yes take your point although at least Mary expresse her self a bit.
at least Mary expresse her self a bit
wtf does this mean?
wtf does this mean?
it means that Lou is just a big hypocrite, he says everyone just puts Matt down all the time and doesn't listen to his points and then does exactly the same with Rebecca.
Just a prize turd.... imo of course.
Just a prize turd.... imo of course.
Good old Matt:
Matt Cardle backtracks on Wagner: "I said things that I shouldn't have"
The X Factor
2010 war between contestants Matt Cardle and Wagner seems to have called down this week, with Matt yesterday backtracking on his previous comments about the Brazilian. TellyMix has reported numerous times over the past few weeks on the war of word between the rowing contestants.
Last night however it seems that Matt wanted to call a truce with Karate champion. Matt confessed: “I’ve been a little bit outspoken about certain issues and certain people in the competition and I think that it’s time to shut the hell up about it because it’s no-ones fault and I understand that.
“I’m not being a bitch, I’m not moaning, it’s just it’s hard when my guys are going.”
Matt explained: “I lost Aiden, then I lost Paije, so I got a little bit angry and said things that I shouldn’t have said. Maybe that I didn’t necessarily mean as well.”
Matt Cardle backtracks on Wagner: "I said things that I shouldn't have"
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2010 war between contestants Matt Cardle and Wagner seems to have called down this week, with Matt yesterday backtracking on his previous comments about the Brazilian. TellyMix has reported numerous times over the past few weeks on the war of word between the rowing contestants.
Last night however it seems that Matt wanted to call a truce with Karate champion. Matt confessed: “I’ve been a little bit outspoken about certain issues and certain people in the competition and I think that it’s time to shut the hell up about it because it’s no-ones fault and I understand that.
“I’m not being a bitch, I’m not moaning, it’s just it’s hard when my guys are going.”
Matt explained: “I lost Aiden, then I lost Paije, so I got a little bit angry and said things that I shouldn’t have said. Maybe that I didn’t necessarily mean as well.”
quite good isn't the winner of the X Factor
It was last year. The winner doesn't have to be a top class singer/performer. The contestants should also be looked at in the context of the opposition they face as well as how good they are. For me, Rebecca has given some of the best performances of the series and is potentially much better than the opposition. However, last week's performance was well below what I would have expected from her and a bit of a worry tbh. I fear another performance like that this week will kill her chances of winning altogether.
As for the argument that Rebecca is very samey. The same could be said for most contestants can't it? Last week was the first time Matt has deviated from the girly songs he normally sings. Wagner and Mary are pretty samey every week. Admitedly, it would be good to hear Rebecca do an uptempo number which apparently she'll be doing this coming week.
It was last year. The winner doesn't have to be a top class singer/performer. The contestants should also be looked at in the context of the opposition they face as well as how good they are. For me, Rebecca has given some of the best performances of the series and is potentially much better than the opposition. However, last week's performance was well below what I would have expected from her and a bit of a worry tbh. I fear another performance like that this week will kill her chances of winning altogether.
As for the argument that Rebecca is very samey. The same could be said for most contestants can't it? Last week was the first time Matt has deviated from the girly songs he normally sings. Wagner and Mary are pretty samey every week. Admitedly, it would be good to hear Rebecca do an uptempo number which apparently she'll be doing this coming week.
at the Matt piece sqThe Cowell smooth-over and get rid agenda is surely in full effect this week.
Odds on apology from Biffa? 1.4
Matt saying all the right things this week:-
Matt Cardle has criticised his own performance on last week's Beatles-themed X Factor.
Cardle's rendition of 'Come Together' won praise from Cheryl Cole, who said that she enjoyed seeing the "cheeky chappy" side of his personality.
However, the ex-painter and decorator confessed in his latest video blog that he wasn't pleased with the end result last Saturday.
"Last week was fun - really, really fun - but I overcooked the vocal in a big way," he said. "I forgot about the extra 10% you give it when you are actually doing it live with the adrenaline of being on stage.
"I pushed it a bit more and it all went a bit Noddy Holder. If I could erase it off YouTube and iTunes, I would."
Matt Cardle has criticised his own performance on last week's Beatles-themed X Factor.
Cardle's rendition of 'Come Together' won praise from Cheryl Cole, who said that she enjoyed seeing the "cheeky chappy" side of his personality.
However, the ex-painter and decorator confessed in his latest video blog that he wasn't pleased with the end result last Saturday.
"Last week was fun - really, really fun - but I overcooked the vocal in a big way," he said. "I forgot about the extra 10% you give it when you are actually doing it live with the adrenaline of being on stage.
"I pushed it a bit more and it all went a bit Noddy Holder. If I could erase it off YouTube and iTunes, I would."
think he needs to learn that this thing is his to lose eh squares?
Chaps - not sure if this has already been posted elesewhere - but direct from popbitch, which has been reasonably reliable with this sort of info before (certainly more than The Sun!)
Those leaks from the X Factor camp about how Wagner's in the top three? Our ITV insidersays "no way". He's only been a few votesoff the bottom two almost every week.The Widdy vote over on Strictly is starting tocollapse too as the joke's starting to pall.So why are the vote Widdy-Wag stories everywhere? Surely not to manufacture a little controversy and make sure they get your money,sorry, votes, eh? Unless a vast number ofnon-viewers are mobilised in an anti-realityshow protest, Matt/One Direction and Matt/Scottare still the likely XF and Strictly champs.
Those leaks from the X Factor camp about how Wagner's in the top three? Our ITV insidersays "no way". He's only been a few votesoff the bottom two almost every week.The Widdy vote over on Strictly is starting tocollapse too as the joke's starting to pall.So why are the vote Widdy-Wag stories everywhere? Surely not to manufacture a little controversy and make sure they get your money,sorry, votes, eh? Unless a vast number ofnon-viewers are mobilised in an anti-realityshow protest, Matt/One Direction and Matt/Scottare still the likely XF and Strictly champs.
popbitch have a good record iirc
Lay Waggy into the ground
Lay Waggy into the ground
gb you're going to back him for tenth elimination arent you
Nope, because I agree with fig that the campaign has cranked up massively this week
next week....
next week....
Yeah, tbh. Mary vulnerable with a duff slot I think
Cher for me.
I see no reason for any significant bounce. She's just not likeable.
I see no reason for any significant bounce. She's just not likeable.
I think the chav army will have one last blast ;-)
Plus I think she'll get pimped a bit
Plus I think she'll get pimped a bit
Having said that an early for Wag looks inevitable to me, so maybe giving Mary a late by default..
She's certainly due one
As ever, wait for the RO
She's certainly due one
As ever, wait for the RO
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