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Denman The Destroyer
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Interesting....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1328560/X-Factor-2010-Matt-Cardles-posh-past-painted-decorator.html

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layprofessional
When: 11 Nov 10 09:24
oh dear matts price in freefall soon lolllllllllllllllllllllll;pretending to be struggling decorator;went to private school and parents in big house
By:
layprofessional
When: 11 Nov 10 09:25
just keep being normal rebecca and ur crowned already yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
By:
layprofessional
When: 11 Nov 10 09:34
matt backers crying over article as we speak lolllllllllllllll;big drift coming lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 10:43
Surely he's not a posh boy with a sense of entiltement.

Who'd have thunked it.
By:
melv
When: 11 Nov 10 10:48
Absolutely no-one has backed Matt because he is a working class hero.

There is not one post on you tube that says I love Matt becaseu he is a painter and decorator.

If his background means he is more likely to keep his nerve then its excellent news.
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 10:50
Posh southern boy doing it for his ego v Working class northern girl doing it for her kids.

hmmmm , as Lou would say.
By:
squares
When: 11 Nov 10 10:54
haven't we had shoe-shop boy doing it for his Mum v posh rugby-playing theatrical type before ??

Can even remember seeing the sad little flat and the country farmhouse/small holding from the VTs.
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 10:57
Before my time I suspect squares.

Gates v Young?
By:
squares
When: 11 Nov 10 10:58
Leon

Rhydian
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:00
Oh right, so that's one where the theory held.

Young v Gates the possible exception to the rule.
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LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 11:05
Does it really matter that he wasn't permanently a painter?  He's said he's done all sorts of jobs so what's new.  What's wrong also that someone's family might be middle class, nice house.  We're trying to find the best singer here not holding auditions for 'Oliver'!
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 11 Nov 10 11:12
We're trying to find the best singer here

that might be what influences your vote lou, but it's not necessarily what influences the masses to vote.
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 11:19
Rhydian won everywhere bar Scotland, doesn't seem to matter how many times one repeats that point imo!
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:22
Was that ever been official or just something the Sun made up for a cheap headline?
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:22
-been*
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 11:25
Official, as there was an investigation into the voting.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 11:26
Seems strange that because Scotland were obviously very pro Leon he beat the rest of the country's vote that was surely pro Rhydian.  What about the Welsh?  Not saying it isn't true just strange how he won it.  On that basis Mary walks over then doesn't she as the whole of Ireland are backing her in the same way Scotland were Leon.  Yet Mary is deemed now as just someone making up the numbers really and will perhaps only last another two or three weeks?
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:29
Do you have a link?

..and are you saying England as a whole voted for Rydian or all the various regions voted his was too?

They're 2 very different things.
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LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 11:33
Figgy

If you mean me .......... If Leon had such a biased vote from Scotland (let's call it 90% for arguememnts sake) then the size of the rest of the UK you would have thought would cancel that out.  As I pointed out on that basis a (90%) pro Mary vote from the Irish means she wins doesn't it?
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:36
Yep, she looks a cert Lou ;)

My point is that being from Scotland, Wales, or the North of England is a positive in these shows.
Being a cockernee or a soft southerner is a negative.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 11:39
I'm of Scottish blood but a southern softee born in good ol' London Town me ol' **** sparru

Where does that leave me.  Is it just me and Melv.  Has it really come to that!
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:42
I'm a soft southerner who loves Rebecca.
Where does that leave me.

How individuals vote is irrelevant though. The question is whether as a whole there is a bias in favour of those from the North and Scotland and against London and the South.

I'd have thought the answer was yes, for most people who bet on these shows.
The only argument would be over the extent of the bias.
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 11 Nov 10 11:43
On that basis Mary walks over then doesn't she as the whole of Ireland are backing her

not actually true
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LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 11:46
Figgy

Interesting.  What makes you think there are more people betting on this sort of show that are from the north rather than the south?
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 11:52
LOL I'm not saying that Lou.

I'm saying most people who bet on these shows would include regional bias in their calculations.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 11:53
Sorry.  Honest mistake.
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 11:57
OT there's a live chat with Stacey S in 3 minutes, before she heads out, fwiw!
By:
squares
When: 11 Nov 10 11:58
Cider, do you have any links regarding that regional vote as it does not seem to be part of the official investigation?
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 12:00
I've been looking, squares. No luck as yet.
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 12:02
'Oh my God!!'

Got a feeling we're going to be sick of that phrase.
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 12:11
If she takes to the trials looking like a Joe style walkover tbh...
Not worried about missing Zac.
By:
NXRBL
When: 11 Nov 10 12:13
Lou, just a point of info...
There WAS a bit of a kerfuffle about Mary at the start of the show.
Louis had a bit of a crusade to secure an Irish vote.
Then Tesco jumped on the wagon.
Then Paddy Power and Laddies had a bit of spin off her by offering MaBy specials...
But to be honest after a week or two that support weaned and she's certainly not being backed by everyone in Ireland.
Nobody would wish her anything but success.
If it were a one or two week series, she may have hosed up!!! Sadly it's not.
There were about 750k Irish viewers watched XF on TV3 last weekend.
Factor from that what percentage actually voted. The impact of a positive Irish vote for Mary V the field will be fairly inconsequential.
It would simply be a strong regional vote.
I think I've said it before, she may jump a notch or two higher than expected, as a bounce will be a big factor for her support. But I can't see her as a realistic challenger
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 12:15
Where is this chat cider?
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 12:16
Why aren't they still voting her so much though as id say the Scots in getting Leon to the final and subsequently winning it?  I wouldn't mind but she is a good singer.  Why stop voting?
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 11 Nov 10 12:16
as DID say the Scots ...............
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 12:17
.
http://celebrity.itv.com/2010/chat
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 12:17
I put in a question but blocked I think!
By:
five leaves left
When: 11 Nov 10 12:20
Cheers.

She's a good cook! They always stay til the end :)
By:
Cider
When: 11 Nov 10 12:24
Ah she's already over there. Seems really up for the challenges, which would have been my only concern. Another itv favourite?
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