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five leaves left
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..not gone on to make the final?
Things are looking very good for the 'no-hoper' Mary.
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Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 12:16 PM BST
Was my thread cj and I had it removed
Report cjhornet October 28, 2010 12:19 PM BST
ah well good call GB Grin
why did you get it removed?
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 12:20 PM BST
Lou had posted on it
Report cjhornet October 28, 2010 12:28 PM BST
Grin
Report A1 Bionic October 28, 2010 12:37 PM BST
Laugh
Report Angela Rebecchi October 28, 2010 1:46 PM BST
Certainly good news for her backers. Eoghan was 11s mid way through the finals, IF she makes it there, she'll probably be even higher as the market goes toe to toe with Cardle (1.33) and Ferguson (5).
Report Angela Rebecchi October 28, 2010 1:46 PM BST
Cardle will have topped Week 3.
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 1:58 PM BST
Eggy was also about 3.5 after 7 weeks Angie
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 2:03 PM BST
Angie or anyone else, do you fancy Cher to beat her?
If you do maybe we could come to some sort of arrangement in the head to head market
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:27 PM BST
Figgy

Diana sang awfully every week.  Even with her good looks and youngters vote she finished .................... 4th!  Eggnog was just as bad get over it.
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 2:30 PM BST
Utter b0llox Lou.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:32 PM BST
No it's not.  She was shyte and the country voted so.  Same with Eggnog.  Completely out of Alexandra's class.  FACT

"Next"
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 2:32 PM BST
Are you Lily Allen?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:33 PM BST
Have I struck a nerve Fig?
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 2:39 PM BST
Yep, I realise I was wrong about her all along.
She was out of tune throughout her time the XF and she's just been very lucky to get a no.1 album and single and to star, to much acclaim,  in the westend.

Are you off to see Danyl at butlins again this year?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:43 PM BST
Figgy

Tut tut tut.

I have no interest in Danyl or what he's up to whatsoever for a start.  Also I do belive Claire Sweeney played the same part in the west end didn't she?  Big star!! 

A number 12 single these days is about 2000 sales isn't it.  Did you see her a couple of weeks ago on the X Factor.  Dreadful again surely?

You obviously done your dough on her and can't get over it.  It must be a bad feeling I'd imagine but heh ho.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:44 PM BST
Should read a number 1 single ...typo.
Report A1 Bionic October 28, 2010 2:46 PM BST
Songs from the Tainted Cherry Tree has so far sold over 120,000 copies in the United Kingdom attaining a Gold certification.[8] Vickers' second single, "The Boy Who Murdered Love" was released on 19 July 2010 peaked at number thirty-six on the UK Singles Chart.


120,000 is not to shabby imo
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 2:48 PM BST
She was shyte and the country voted so.

she came 4th therefore she was shyte?  is that what you're saying.

so danyl was shyte also?  the country voted so.

what about people who didn't even make it to 4th?  jamie afro extra shyte?  the country voted so after all.
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 2:49 PM BST
lou gets very aggressive when his opinion is brought into question doesn't he?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:50 PM BST
The Cavalry's here!!

Het em' up, move em' out!
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 2:52 PM BST
and then hides behind his "everyone is against me" when someone highlights some of his nonsense.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:52 PM BST
ALEXANDRA BURKE:

Upon its release, Overcome debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart, selling 132,065 copies in its first week, the fourth largest first week sales for a female singer in 2009.[12] The album became a commercial success in Europe being certified multi-platinum in the United Kingdom and Ireland, selling 700,000 copies.[13] As well as meeting with positive reviews, Overcome earned a nomination for Best Album at the Urban Music Awards.[14]

Alexandra sold more than that in 1 week!! and went on to sell over 700,000.  A touch more I think you'd agree?
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 2:53 PM BST
Diana won me a fair amount that year.
Backed her @ 14 and layed off around 3.5 -4 iirc , after the star story and shifted most of my green to the competent but rather dull Alexandra.
So I'm not hurting at all.

For me Diana is the most talented performer they've ever had on the show and her success since would back that up.

The fact that she didn't win a highly manipulated popularity contest is neither here nor there.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:54 PM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hVEdE0O5tA
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 2:57 PM BST
fll - i'd like to highlight at this point that you're trying to start a debate on modern music with someone who hadn't heard the song "one" by U2 until this series of x factor.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 2:57 PM BST
Five

You say 'For me she's the most talented' etc etc etc.  That's fine.

For me she's not though ...... That's fine though as well I think you'll find.  In fact I THINK she was awful.  I think you'll find that's fine to say too.

Thought you might have bough high and sold low as everyone does that on Betfair.  We all win so you wouldn't want to be the only loser would you?
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 2:57 PM BST
Thought you might have bough high and sold low as everyone does that on Betfair.  We all win so you wouldn't want to be the only loser would you?

spectacular irony!!!!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:01 PM BST
Hey, Mr. Churchill comes over here

To say we're doing splendidly.

But it's very cold out here in the snow

Marching to and from the enemy.

Oh I say it's tough, I have had enough,

Can you Stop The Cavalry?
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 3:01 PM BST
You can't expect the frontman of a succesful band to have heard One by U2 Papa Laugh
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:02 PM BST
I have had to fight almost every night,

Down throughout these centuries.

That is when I say, oh yes yet again,

Can you Stop The Cavalry?
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 3:03 PM BST
lou are you from liverpool by any chance?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:09 PM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7RPjQxjmA&feature=related

Move em' out!
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 3:12 PM BST
We all like who we like, Lou, but to say Diana never sang in tune is utter b0llox.
That was my initial point which I believe is hard to argue with, even for you.
Report alfie46 October 28, 2010 3:17 PM BST
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B Joined: 06 Aug 02
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The Cavalry's here!!

Het em' up, move em' out!     

lou your being well militant todayHappy
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:18 PM BST
Five

Of course we can all like who we like but that means I can too surely?

I thought Diana was truly awful as was Eggnog.  How they got that far is beyond me but people vote who they want for I suppose.  I just think she got by on her looks and sweet little girl thing alone.  Every single week she sang parts of the song flat.  The judges just don't mention it.  Look at last wek pretty much every act is 'that was brilliant' from every judge.

Sorry to disagree but I'm entitled to my opinion too you know.
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 3:19 PM BST
some craic
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:19 PM BST
At ease Alfie at ease! (wink)
Report alfie46 October 28, 2010 3:20 PM BST
yes SIR[;)]
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:21 PM BST
steady boys steady!
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 3:27 PM BST
She was shyte and the country voted so.

still waiting for the justification behind this rather warped logic.  when did the country decide she was shyte?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 3:31 PM BST
It's great when you can ignore some of the a$$holes on here.  You just don't bother answering them as you've given up with them for being rude and nasty to you in the first place.  So you just ignore them and hope that next year they won't do the same then I'll answer every single question .... within reason of course!
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 3:33 PM BST
I doubt he will Gym.
He's gone into persecution mode now so we won't get much sense for awhile.
Love you really Lou Love
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 3:37 PM BST
must be great to spout nonsense, and then when challenged hide behind "i'm not talking to you".

in real life it only works at nursery or in an OAP home.
Report Angela Rebecchi October 28, 2010 4:39 PM BST
five leaves left Joined: 24 Dec 05
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Angie or anyone else, do you fancy Cher to beat her?
If you do maybe we could come to some sort of arrangement in the head to head market


Not for me bud. Think Mary is good for a 4th/5th spot, possibly 3rd, which is higher than I see Cher finishing. GL bud.

Had the Diana argument myself with others. I personally didn't like her, but I got very aggravated when told she wasn't popular. 2 million facebook fans, youtube hits in the millions, and a number 1 albulm and singles suggests she was and is very popular.
Report Angela Rebecchi October 28, 2010 4:45 PM BST
FWIW I think Diana has been the best contestant they've had on there with regards to credibility and sales, I just think her mainstream audience weren't as sad as us and were out on Saturday nights (the 18-30 yr old females), but have all willingly bought her albulm and singles. Not many X Factor singers who didn't even make the final have been able to live up to their pathetic last televised words of 'this is just the start for me' Laugh. Without sounding like Cowell, I remarked at the time that she was a ready made genuine star and money making machine.
Report jack12321 October 28, 2010 4:45 PM BST
A few quid up at evens fll if you're interested on Mary v Cher Happy
Report five leaves left October 28, 2010 4:48 PM BST
Taken. Cheers Jack. GL.


Angie talking sense shocker!
Report Angela Rebecchi October 28, 2010 4:49 PM BST
Must be the knock on the head when I bumped into the door frame this morning! Laugh
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 4:51 PM BST
fwiw regarding vickers, for me she's been a massive disappointment since leaving the show.  i hadn't heard of ellie goulding back in 2008, but that's the sort of artist i'd have hoped vickers would be come.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 4:54 PM BST
FWIW I think Vickers is shyte and proved it again the other night on X Factor.  She's even lost her looks so she has nothing at all going for her now.  Pontins here she comes!
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 4:56 PM BST
if she's lucky she might get a gig at a local dublin GAA club eh lou?
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 5:08 PM BST
Diana REALLY irritated me (don't know if it was the strange hand movements or the nasally voice that did it for me), but I don't doubt she was popular.

The problem is with marmite acts like this is that they're not mainstream enough to win.  Even Rhydian polarised opinion, so failed to garner enough support in the final.

Both Cher and Aiden could fall into this category this year - good enough singers in their own right (if you like that kind of thing), but far too quirky or niche to gain the broad appeal that's needed to win the X Factor.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 5:15 PM BST
Dizzy

You can't say that!  What disagree with one or two on here that liked her?  Do you realise what you're doing? OMG


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7RPjQxjmA
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 5:16 PM BST
couldn't agree more dizzy, spot on.
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 5:17 PM BST
I like to live dangerously, Lou Grin
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 5:20 PM BST
I think they'll let it go this once maybe by any more of that nonsense and you'll have Jona Lewie and the boys round!!



Bang, that's another bomb on another town
While Luzar and Jim have tea
If I get home, live to tell the tale
I'll run for all presidencies
If I get elected I'll stop, I will stop the Cavalry
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 5:24 PM BST
lou - everyone's allowed to dislike an act, it's just personal taste.

however saying things like it's out of tune, when you actually mean "the tone of her voice and style of singing isn't really to my taste" tends not to pass without comment.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 5:27 PM BST
Vickers sang flat in parts every single week. FACT  If people can't hear it that's their problem.  "the tone of her voice and style of singing isn't really to my taste" either but I HONESTLY thought she was rubbish.
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 5:29 PM BST
There's a bit in her new song that sounds like my dog when she's having a bad dream... Just bizarre.
Report GymTanLaundry October 28, 2010 5:33 PM BST
okay, let's run with this.

if she (or any other singer for that matter) did sing out of tune, what's wrong with liking the performance as a whole?  liking it more than a bland but note-perfect performance from a non-entity of a personality belting out a diva derge?

shaun ryder is not a good singer, but you listen to "24 hour party people" - it's awesome!  (in fact watch the film too - BRILLIANT!)
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 5:37 PM BST
Have to agree with the GTL - in fact many of the greatest performers are what would normally be classed as bad singers...  You only have to look at Morrissey, Liam Gallagher, Shaun Ryder - a lot of the Manchester scene fall into that category.  An acquired taste, for sure.

I wouldn't necessarily mention Diana in the same breath as those esteemed artists though!!!
Report seanvice October 28, 2010 9:31 PM BST
hifted most of my green to the competent but rather dull Alexandra

Least dull contestant in the past 3 years of X Factor imo. Other than that fig you are spot ons as per Love
Report Helmuthian Folds October 28, 2010 9:56 PM BST
Even Rhydian polarised opinion, so failed to garner enough support in the final.

Not true really, Rhyddian won in every district of the UK apart from Scotland where leon got over 90% of the vote. 

Rhyddian was just unlucky to face a Scot in the final.
Report Helmuthian Folds October 28, 2010 9:59 PM BST
I see Lou making a c0ck of himself again but...

For my money Alexandra was always a superior singer to Vickers.  Vickers had a gimmick and a distinctive tome but it was false and forced and became annoying rather than endearing although I thought her singing Call Me was one of the best X Factor performances ever.
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:30 PM BST
Mark E Smith is a brilliant sing-ahhhh
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:34 PM BST
I see that wankgner Helmithian is talking boll0xs again.  Loses every year and wonders why no one listens to him!
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:35 PM BST
How come he keeps coming back Lou? Laugh
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:37 PM BST
You've been on the advocaat again n'est pa?
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 10:39 PM BST
But Lou - the big difference between Alexandra and Diana was that the latter DID polarise opinion.  You either loved or hated her, whereas I think Alexandra was far more mainstream and acceptable to the masses.

That's why I think the likes of Aiden and Cher will ultimate struggle to drum up sufficient support to win overall.
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:40 PM BST
Fooking hate that Burqha me
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:42 PM BST
Vacuous koont Laugh
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwq8KJqjjfY
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:42 PM BST
She's been to Haiti.

Thank gawd for that
Report Helmuthian Folds October 28, 2010 10:43 PM BST
Calling people names Lou, becoming what you criticise people for so not just clueless and friendless but also now hypocritical!

very very sad.

No pretend hospital appointment today lou?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:43 PM BST
Dizzy

As you can see one or two here didn't like her, done their dough then conveniently say they backed her after all!  They were slating her all the way through it believe me with me sticking up for her of course.  Millions loved her of course and err ................. she won!

See what you mean about Aiden and Cher yes.
Report Helmuthian Folds October 28, 2010 10:46 PM BST
All the rational regulars on here know I backed Alexandra and didnt like Vickers as I fargued like feck with them throughout most of that series.

But dont let facts get in the way of your arguments Lou as you never do![;)]
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:46 PM BST
Bang, that's another bomb on another town
While Luzar and Jim have tea
If I get home, live to tell the tale
I'll run for all presidencies
If I get elected I'll stop, I will stop the Cavalry
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:47 PM BST
Still hate you for that HF Laugh
Report Helmuthian Folds October 28, 2010 10:48 PM BST
Calling you rational or backing Alexandra GB?
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:49 PM BST
No, I just hated all Alex backers really

Including myself for the benefit of Lou
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 10:51 PM BST
Although I've only posted this year, I've been following the forum for the past three seasons, so I know the truth! [;)]
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:51 PM BST
Watching any interview with the woman tells you all you need to know. She's a Cowell programmed android
Report Helmuthian Folds October 28, 2010 10:51 PM BST
I really thought she was great from the moment she did Candyman.

She was great doing the upbeat pop songs (toxic) but obviously Cowell made sure she sand mainly ballads!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:52 PM BST
Dizzy

Thank you very much.  Honesty will prevail you see. Nice one mate.
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:53 PM BST
Even I will admit Candyman was good.

I wanted to put an ice pick through her cranium by Beyonce thogh
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:53 PM BST
though*
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 10:53 PM BST
I know not everyone here on the forum liked her, but I thought Alexandra was a really solid performer throughout, very likeable and a worthy winner.  It's the Cowell machine that's ruined her.  They were determined to make her distinctive and different from Leona and they've basically stuffed any chance she had of a singing career with some truly dreadful material.

It's hard to recognise the same person now!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:54 PM BST
They don't like it up em' Sir"

6 or 7 against 1 and they STILL can't beat me.  I'm still here, on the clear favourite as clearly stated from day 1 (unlike 99% on here who tell you the winning horse after it's crossed the line) and they also know for a FACT (IF THEY'VE GOT ANY GRAIN OF HONESTY IN THEM) that I did the same last year with Joe and the year before with Alexandra.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:55 PM BST
Dizzy

Yes I think she was terriffic from week 1 however I haven't listened to anything she's done since to be honest.  Who cares.
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 10:55 PM BST
Spoken like a true specials punter! Grin
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 10:57 PM BST
Dizzy

This is just about my only 'chat' on here all year.  I have an odd football bet but that's about it.  I enjoy the X Factor having been introduced to it by my wife who was my gf at the time in the year Leona won.  I backed her at the start too.
Report GeorgeBrush October 28, 2010 10:57 PM BST
Fair enough Dizzy. The Cowell implant hadn't taken full effect back then
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 11:01 PM BST
It's great isn't it?!  You get to 'sacrifice' your Saturday nights watching this pantomime in the thinly veiled pretence that it's for the sake of your other half, while all the time you get to punt more than on the horses and footie combined!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 11:03 PM BST
Don't really touch the horses but yes I take your point.  We watch it together on Sunday morning usually and together on a Sunday evening when we can.  Great viewing sitting there with your fingers crossed that your act will go through1
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 11:05 PM BST
It certainly adds a lot to the interest.  Whether or not I had a good weekend used to depend on the results by 5.00pm on a Saturday... Now I have to wait until around 9.00pm on a Sunday night to know whether it's going to be euphoria or depression!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 11:06 PM BST
ha ha like it.  It's just a Sunday night will he get through/won't he get through for me.  So far so good.
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 11:08 PM BST
Yep, ahead so far, but we're due a shock in the next couple of weeks so let's hope pride doesn't come before a fall!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 11:10 PM BST
True.

It is a bit of a lottery to a certain extent but surely Matt will at least make the final 3 won't he?
Report Dizzy42 October 28, 2010 11:14 PM BST
I would think so Lou - can't see him being out of the frame, even if his price is way too short when we're only three weeks in...
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 28, 2010 11:15 PM BST
Yes a very short price after only 3 weeks as there's a long way to go.  Sounds corny but one week at a time is all we can hope for.
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