could cardle have peaked too soon ??

bardo

I've backed him.  Wouldn't quite say he was 'head and shoulders above the others' but don't see why he can't keep it up.  He's obviously a good singer so why should that change.  Suddenly sings awfully one week?  I don't think so.

Don't think a favourite has ever lead from start to finish before but it will have to happen one day so who knows?

Shayne

I wasn't around in 'Shayne's' year.  I started off when Leona won it.

And without wanting to sound pedantic, Aiden was nearly half a point shorter than him two weeks ago for several days.

baz

But pretty much Matt's been the favourite from the start I think we can all agree.  Yes though technically Aiden was favourite for a very short while.

Yeah agree.

Shayne peaked in week 2 when he did Daniel Bedingfield btw.

He was the chosen winner (sung last in final etc) but was nearly pipped when Simon stupidly mentioned Andy's dead mum.  Sloppy mistake which he will have learnt from.

Oh I see.  Matt the one to beat?

Although Matt is the favourite with the public at the moment that doesn't mean he's Cowell's chosen one.

Cowell's main aim is to have an entertaining and credible TV program, that's where his money comes from, therefore he wants all acts to be as good as possible (with one or two acts there for comedy value). Secondary considerations are to future record sales and, especially with this series, hopefully American appeal. Matt wouldn't get anywhere in the US but Rebecca could.

to answer the heading ...NO !

in my opinion his performances so far have been understated in comparison to his outstanding version of 'The first time ever I saw your face' he did at boot camp, I would love to see him do Losing My Religion one week as he'd nail that song.

My only concern is he is not showing much personality and people may find it hard to warm to him in terms of winning the show

Henry

I could say Matt would do well in America and Rebeccca wouldn't so that cancels that out doesn't it?

Not really Lou as only one of you has a Scooby what they are on about! [;)]

Hel

I don't know I'm sure Henry aint that bad.  My credentials are that I clearly picked the winner here two years ago with only one choice right at the start and did exactly the same last year too.  My guy's not doing too bad me thinks this year either.  You've no doubt got the winner Hel whoever wins as have most on here!

Lou you and Angela made a good call of being original Matt backers.

But, although he is musically talented, I have seen many New York buskers just as talented.

Henry

But you haven't seen young 18 year old lads who can sing as wonderfully as One D?

There is no chosen one yet imo.

The first six weeks of this show are devoted to publicity and viewing figures without any consideration to who wins.

After about 6 weeks SC picks one to win and makes sure it happens.

Of course there are favoured acts even at this early stage, but there isn't a chosen one - yet

I'm in love with One D. I think they've brought on a bit of latency in me. Who'd have thought at my age? (Don't tell the wife [;)] )

Henry

Good luck to you.  I really can't see it myself that they're certs even to make the final 3. All will be revealed.

Lou,

Its quite obvious who I have backed I just dont harp on about it on every thread 24/7.

Hel

It's not obvious.  I have no idea who you've backed. Can you say please so I know?

Hel

Hope you don't mind me posting by the way.  I forgot to run it by you first.

I have backed Rebecca lou which if you had any awareness you would know.

Of course I don't mind you posting but it would be appreciated if you could actually add something new instead of the same old, same old.

I also have a large green on Mary but I don't really want to talk about that.

Hel

I don't give a shyt if you like it or not.  I don't work during the day so have a lot of spare time.  Through sheer boredom I like to come on here and have a read of what people have to say and add my two penneth worth.  If you don't like it you know what you can do.

Wanna join the rest of the sheep?

lou, why are you throwing your toys out the pram?

My criticism of you is actually quite constructive if you actually read it.

Through sheer boredom I like to come on here and have a read of what people have to say

You read but you don't see!

Anyway if you want to ignore me you can do, cant see it changing my life too much! [;)]

Hel

Yer think I will.  You've been having digs at me and I really don't need it.  I've got other important things going on right now that could do without people like you having a go.  I won't answer you anymore.

Good luck with your bets

So it's not just people who are rude who join the illustrious list but people who just criticise you now.  Interesting.

guys can we get back to the original debate about matt cardle. cheers !

He may have not peaked to soon but his price has.

He deserves to be favourite but not as short as he is imo.

As long as it's ok to post yes.  Can you run it by 'the sheep' as I'd like to reply but I'm not sure if I'm allowed?  Oh pleeeeeese so yes 'sheep'!

Just cut and paste your previous posts it will save time Louy!

You always take it too far Lou, You get as much "abuse" as any one on here, no need to get shirty with people.

You seem to have a special talent for rubbing people up the wrong way, maybe its you and not them , justa thought

A1

They don't like the fact that I tell em' they're talking nonsense at certain times.  They also don't like it that I keep picking 1 selection at the very start and going on to win.  This year I've told em' all Matt's my choice right at the very start and they don't like it.  They so want to trip me up that's why they have a go.  Look to see if you can find a post with me digging at Helmuthian for arguememnts sake.  You won't.  I respect his views but he should respect mine which he doesn't so I'll have no more to do with him.

A couple of weeks ago Helmuthian doubted I'd even had any bets.  How great it felt when I cut n'pasted them to prove it.  He quickly went back into his shell with his tail between his legs.

Did you not also tip Nicolo this year Lou

I dont think I did Lou.

I still don't believe you tbh.  I can cut and paste saying I have had a million pounds on but what would that prove?

I apologised for calling you a liar in public but also stated I still didn't believe you.

Petty small minded fools like you usually have no money or friends in the real world I have found.

A1

I backed Nicolo at 38 and Aiden at 12 yes because I thought at the start this year was very open.  By far my biggets win though is Matt who is the one I've singled out from the start.

I thought Nicolo would go a long way so was very suprised he went straight out I have to admit.

2010-10-24
20:56 12521901138 2010-10-23
18:52  The X Factor 2010 Week 3 / 5th Elimination / John Adeleye
Back   10.00 1000.00 Won   9000.00

Nice bet I thought!

to the original poster.....matt hasn't peaked yet and will only get better (my opinion only)....i'm actually hoping to get out at 1.6 (as i will have made what i intended too at the start and i couldn't stand the thought of falling at the last fence).....i think it's a 2 horse race and i honestly think matt has the bigger fan base as said in a previous thread he will pick up votes of the leaving contestants.

right im going to add my two bobs worth some very good judges on here have failed to spot the obvious matt cardle has no charisma no eye contact and at best is an average performer not a star in the making so has he peaked no he just cant

Danyl was 23% ahead of his nearest rival in week 4.

I doubt Matt is so far ahead so 2.8 isn't the most generous price i have seen.

bustar

I wouldn't mind getting out at 1.6 but that's asking an awful lot.  Even IF he makes the final 2 he might not even be that.

A1

Where do you get that 23% figure from for Danyl last year?

From last years voting figures

what gets me about all these matt haters just spewing utter drivel is they can't back it up by laying him.i put as much money as i had in my bank on week 1 and i wish i'd had more to put on him.back your comments by laying him if he's such a bad bet........yet his price is still solid at 2.8........cmon grow some balls and lay him!!!

So all the stuff on here about Danyl be ultra unpopular and yet for that week at least he was a mile in front.  Interesting.

lou....if i can't get out at 1.6 i'm gonna let it ride.

bustar

I actually only think there's two acts who CAN POSSIBLY beat him so I'll let it run for a while yet.  I'm on at 9/2 and haven't bailed out at all so fingers crossed.

Well he did only get 6.5 and 7.6% in weeks 2 and 3 lou

Just shows how things can change rapidly in X factor

a few thoughts

helmuthian is actually an insightful guy lou - dont be so petty as to add him to your growing persona non gratis list

he made a point which is that, whenever anyone posts about matt, you will be on within seconds with your pro matt spiel. it's true, it is a little wearing, whether its ramping or just enthusiasm

lou - i like you but stop blowing your trumpet - all this - maybe they're just jealous because i get one pick every year and i get it right' baloney - leave that childish tripe to the kindergarten. you're better than that

interesting point about whether matt can maintain his position - wouldnt be the biggest journey ever seen on x factor but signs are he has the best voice as well as being likeable, a potent combination. matt, rebecca and boyband nailed on for final, imo.

i was gutted on that first night....i backed him straight after his performance and took the 4.7 he then drifted out to 5.5....gutted .......as for this b0llox that he has no charisma, it's laughable.he's instantly likeable and i honestly think he can sing any genre of music.....i suppose you've seen his performance of duffy's mercy and his bands songs on youtube ?........different class

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what gets me about all these matt haters just spewing utter drivel is they can't back it up by laying him.i put as much money as i had in my bank on week 1 and i wish i'd had more to put on him.back your comments by laying him if he's such a bad bet........yet his price is still solid at 2.8........cmon grow some balls and lay him!!!

not a hater not a layer just recognise talent when i see it and in my eyes this guy lacks any outstanding talent and is non marketable

we'll agree to disagree then but this is a forum on a betting site and i've backed my judgement with cold hard cash,wouldn't dream of getting involved if i hadn't had a bet.i'll accept your apology either on finals night or when he has his first no 1......but then again you still wouldn't give him any credit would you ?...........or would you ?

nick

The reason I answer a lot of posts is that i have the time on my hands and I'm bored to be honest.  I have no kids, only work as a rule at the weekend so have nothing much to do.  I enjoy joining in and saying my bit. 

I can't suddenly change my stance.  I DO think Matt is the best, I DO think ONE D are very overpriced. I DO think Wagner is absolutely dreadful etc etc.  So when I see somone talking about that I'll respond.  As I said often out of pure boredom.

buster

Yes I agree.  To do a Britney song sounds ridiculous for a guy but he was terriffic wasn't he?  Imagine him doing a Sinatra number with a big band behind him.  I can't pick a fault (apart from the constant thankyou, hands in prayer lark)

fair enough lou  was only a minor gripe 

Thanks for the insightful bit Nick, at least i've fooled one person on the forum! [;)]

you've got to stand up for the interesting posters squire[;)]

i have to admit i like the prayer hands makes him come across as very humble instead of the venomous look on the chavs face when she gets some praise.

evryone i've spoke to at work say he's got the best voice.i havn't heard one person say he's cocky or lacking charisma....all i get from people is that he's nice and has a good voice and sings the songs well.granted this only amounts to about 20 people but within those 20 people are a good cross section of young and old/male and female.

i've said on another thread that if he doesn't sell one record after the x-factor that it won't bother me in the slightest because i'm only interested in making money from my bet.

saying that i think he's got real potential and will make a decent living whatever the outcome.don't kid ourselves here and think that any act will survive more than 5 years,and thats being ultra optomistic (bar the odd one) or will conquer the world, it is after all when you take away the surface make up a piece of throw away tv.as long as they last around 2 years simon and the tv producers will be happy.

I liked it once but he does it three or four times a night.  Just don't think it's natural and if it is makes him look a bit of a plank.

the only worry on form would be Ben in Leona's year.

He hit around 2.2 in weeks 3/4

really looked a dial a distance job....then lost his voice one week,fell out with Osbourne,got slated in the press,
Leona nailed "Summertime" and then met with a fate no man should have to deal with

polling less votes than Ray Quinn in a singing contest [:(]

Matts goin bald --needs to get that hat back on --the comb over is startin to show,looked like bobby charlton on sunday.He ditched his girlfriend of 4and a half years on producers advice.Hes a snake and will not win.Laying him large but ur comin to me i dont have to chase ur stakes.Needs to stop the prayin hands.

Maybe he's after the slap head vote?

Kriti

If Matt is going bald I don't think voters will hold that against him!

Looks like he's going to do a Ward/Lewis and go pillar to post. More to come. Definitely not peaked too soon as is too good and versatile to go away. Will be the runaway leader come the end.