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Report Xyloph October 24, 2010 2:25 PM BST
I don't normally subscribe to these ramp threads but I must say I agree. I can't see her not making the last 5 and when the cuteness of Matt and One Dimension have worn off, I can't see any reason why she can't win it.
Report Mikeeey October 24, 2010 2:34 PM BST
there's no doubt that she can sing but I can't see the masses suddenly voting for her - she is a batant attention seeker and her song choice this week made her a condender for being a novelty act along with Wagner
Report Helmuthian Folds October 24, 2010 2:35 PM BST
She is having a Rhyddianesque journey.
Report Xyloph October 24, 2010 2:40 PM BST
One of these mornings you'll be on your way to work or sign on and you'll notice the front page of the Sun has something nice to say about Katie. At which point you should dash back to your computer and get as much on her as you can.
Report Mikeeey October 24, 2010 2:43 PM BST
but I do wonder why Cowell has changed to a single elimination this week - given the nature of the show, it's fair to assume the change is to keep someone in, possibly Katie or Cher??
Report mach October 24, 2010 2:50 PM BST
not a ramp thread
was only thinking Katie has turned around what looked like a impossible situation,and was able to go on a journey.
the only contestant that could clame to a have a true underdog chance(a bit odd when katie started has the most fame hungry wanabe in XF)
i dont mind getting shot down if anyone can post reasons why katie cant be top 4 with a real chance at the end.
Report Angela Rebecchi October 24, 2010 2:52 PM BST
Thought her performance in Week 2 was exceptional, and was entertaining last night, and for a few reasons she's very popular in house Cool The only one I've hedged on so far.
Report Mikeeey October 24, 2010 2:56 PM BST
I think she's good enough to win tbh - Cowell will have to get the public on board though
Report Angela Rebecchi October 24, 2010 2:57 PM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdQXe3gsIw

Thats her in Week 2 fwiw, v v v good performance.
Report A1 Bionic October 24, 2010 3:16 PM BST
I thought yesterdays performance was easily her best
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 3:33 PM BST
You should always back the X Factor plant.

[;)] EASY MONEY [;)]
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 24, 2010 4:09 PM BST
Can't see it myself.  Not vocally good enough at all and the worst of Cheryl's girls IMO
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 5:04 PM BST
Sorry LOU MACARIS TARTAN B, when I said 'easy money' I didn't mean to win the competition. I meant it in a more tradeable way. But if you spot the plant early, you can make money. Forget all the 'I think she can win' comments, she's simply not popular enough. So I agree with you there.
Report jack12321 October 24, 2010 5:11 PM BST
I'm all for an underdog, people like Jedward managed to pull it round to an extent so it's certainly possible - however Katie will be quite a struggle to shift public opinion that drastically. Some small hints of it happening but will take one hell of a push from Simon and co, not worth it at the odds for me.

See the logic though, good luck!
Report johnnyrant October 24, 2010 5:27 PM BST
For me, there are so many 'one trick ponies' this year who patently cannot win – Mary, Cher, Rebecca, Aiden... – that Katie is just about the only possible outsider worth considering to make the final 3.
Report Cider October 24, 2010 5:33 PM BST
for me looked like it was between Matt and 1D even before JH's. Actually Liam who became 1D. Seen nothing to alter my opinion as yet.
Report jack12321 October 24, 2010 5:38 PM BST
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.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1323307/X-Factor-2010-Katie-Waissel-drove-ex-boyfriend-try-attempt-suicide.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

This kind of thing will be very difficult to overcome....
Report panglima October 24, 2010 5:53 PM BST
Simon Cowells attempt to make Katie into the country's sweetheart
is doomed to failure maybe not this week or next but failure just the same.
Report johnnyrant October 24, 2010 6:12 PM BST
Cowell has control over all X Factor press through Max Clifford. So all this anti-Katie stuff is his work, rest assured.
Report CaptainTobiasWilcox October 24, 2010 6:22 PM BST
I must have been watching another show. I thought her performance was cràp last night along with the song. She's in my bottom 3 along with Wagner and and Bel amie
Report seebee October 25, 2010 11:03 PM BST
Her performances since the sing off have been excellent. Simon wants this girl in the final. Just look at the production. Set up as hated figure, lots of nasty stories in press, but is stripped back, and gradually turned into a favourite. Simon's pygmalion project.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 25, 2010 11:25 PM BST
seebee

I wouldn't call them 'excellent' myself but I thought she did a catchy song last week that I'm sure most people were singing along to in their heads.  I don't personally think she's much of a singer myself.  Thought she murdered the Beatles song in her sing off.  Just not good enough.
Report seebee October 27, 2010 2:35 AM BST
Hi Lou

I thought her Beatles number was good, and I think she stands out because she's got quite an old, bluesy voice. You'd recognise her instantly in the charts, almost a Will Young type warble going on. And I just reckon there's a lot invested in her behind the scenes, meaning they'll want her album to sell well when it's released. Think she could win, and definitely think she'll be around for a while.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 27, 2010 9:10 AM BST
seebee

Fair enough to each his own.  I'm guessing about another two or three weeks and she'll be gone.  We'll have to wait and see.
Report Xyloph October 27, 2010 2:20 PM BST
I think she'll finish second.
Report mach November 23, 2010 3:44 PM GMT
katie still lives
Report BarnabySpears November 23, 2010 3:48 PM GMT
I think the degree of manipulation of the public vote required for her to win is too great even for Simon Cowell.

She will not get to the final 3.

No real talent and not likeable and not able .. like.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 23, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
Barnaby

Are you me writing this stuff?  Agree again.
Report BarnabySpears November 23, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
Superb minds like yours and mine appreciate good quality Lou.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 23, 2010 3:57 PM GMT
Hope so!
Report alfie46 November 23, 2010 3:58 PM GMT
didnt like at first but admiring her determenation,if she was on IACGMOOH she would have no doubt fainted by now.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 23, 2010 4:09 PM GMT
alfie

Funnily enough I admire her for having a go and she's had dsome bad press.  Is it her fault her Nan's a hooker for instance?  That said it is a singing competition and I think she's worse than everyone from the last 16 bar Wagner.  Can't really remember FYD was it? but bar them and Wagner she's the worst for me so how she's got this far ..................
Report BarnabySpears November 23, 2010 4:15 PM GMT
For some odd reason Cowell seems to rate her.

Can't quite see why !!!!
Report alfie46 November 23, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
wouldnt have her as worst of the last 16 bar wagner there were definately worst. her fighting spirit and her appeal for voters through song choice were prob what saved her this week.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 23, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
Yep she's not for me at all.  Survived a few sing offs.  Better than TreyC, better than Aiden, better than paije?  No chance.
Report mentality November 23, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
Katie seems to be the only contestant with any real stage finess with an ability to sing. She has a unique voice and can certainly see her improving given the chance. Matt and rebecca can sing but would they be enetertaining performing live, my answer is no, there very average. Imo Katie is a great bet @40's
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 23, 2010 9:55 PM GMT
mentality

Fair enough to each his own.
Report Dizzy42 November 23, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
Never in a million years.  If she's been unpopular enough to be bottom two four times, there is no way Katie can win...

Quite clearly Cowell and co. need to keep her in long enough to justify the recording contract that she's apparently already lined-up, but they're on a hiding to nothing if they think that they can turn around public opinion that much!
Report I Win All The Tim November 24, 2010 9:33 AM GMT
I don't even think people hate her that much, it's more down to the fact that she is an awful singer, weak, boring voice.. who would buy her album? she comes across as someone who thinks she's the best in the competition aswell. No chance.
Report BarnabySpears November 24, 2010 9:41 AM GMT
Katie is not a crowd pleaser.

She turns people off for some reason that I cannot fathom.

I would probably say that this is more down to her personality and press coverage than her lack of singing ability.

Not many of them are good singers this year but some of them are very popular.

It's all down to image.
Report Shrew D November 24, 2010 9:50 AM GMT
I must say Katie has earned a lot of respect from me as the series has gone on. She's a gutsy spirited young lady. The same cannot be said for Cher though.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 24, 2010 12:21 PM GMT
Have to agree with stu.  Give her due for being a real tryer but I would agree with 'I Win All The Tim'when he says it's more down to the fact that she is an awful singer, weak, boring voice.. who would buy her album? she comes across as someone who thinks she's the best in the competition aswell. No chance.
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