cher now is now the time to steam in ?

cher

15.5 TO 13.5 TO 10.5 TO 7.7 20 DAYS

no rapping this week she will shine on saturday

crabs a pick  thou?

Might be the time to steam out. Not sure how much lower she can get given the Big 3 in front of her in the betting.

she has silenced the critic choo all the way to winnersville

[;)] crab has a hangover this morning

Good pick - bail out in the final 2 of the series IMO. [;)]

Good pick - bail out in the final 2 of the series IMO

I do not believe anyone saw that coming well done all those with high prices.
She does not have to do it every week.The light and shade, the naff the Ok and the amazing is the big thing about Cher for me. One more like that on the final night and she wins.

melv was it just me we need aforum fan club.she has the x -factor ilove marmite

Answer is no. The value has now gone.

She can't win anyways, will not be popular enough with the mass public. Don't get me wrong, I think she's superb. There's no act I look forward to more. Cher and Rebecca are the two most interesting in the whole show for me.
You can't be backing Cher at these levels, the horse has bolted.

you never checked my original thread i tipped at15.5. she will be favorite in the next ttwo weeks [;)]

Pete is spot on.

i never liked cher but this changed my mind.

times 2 million.

I think she can win. She'd smash the likes of Mary and even Becca if she sang Stay again in the final.

My guess is she annihilated them all last night. An hour is a very long time in X factor.

You had to have got on before she sung last night.
What happens now?
Back to 'urban' this will all be forgotten in a couple of weeks.

nah cider they aint stupid, they'll cleverly mix the urban with the ballads. she's got to have a chance, but can she beat the big three. i sincerely hope not

Don't have a clue why there seems to be this view that Cher's value has all now gone.  Or why people are referring to a 'big three' without her.

Cher is the standout performer in the show by a long way.  She should be favourite to win the whole thing.  I took 14s last week.  I'm astonished that she is still backable at 7 after that performance last night.  It shows that a lot of people on here are refusing to wake up, smell the coffee, and admit they judged this girl's potential badly wrong.

It's called a market Joe. The price doesn't go from 14 to 3 in a straight line mate. There are other runners with other prices.You could of taken 14.0 until your head caved in. It's now 7.0

To be fair, if you're on, 7.0 is a fair old move from 14.0 She's had good comments every week. I've been marvelling about her with a girl from work from day one,it's all we talk about, but you have to understand the mass vote, not what you perceive as the best talent on display. If it was on pure talent then it would be Becca,Cher and Matt in the final now, but there's more to it. I think One Direction are an absolute joke, but they'll probably make the final 3. I think Matt is a puff at 7/4, not for me.
So, the coffee smell is actually quite strong today. That's a decent move for Cher backers. 6.8 is a massive short term lay, it'll all be forgotton about in a few days and the price will drift.

Simple really.
Cher has play her hand.
Getting on after this is akin to backing a horse at sp.

Exactly Cider. [smiley:crazy]

It's like backing a horse for the Stewards Cup at 6/1 when it's been 20-1 the previous night.

Too knee jerk for me too, 14.0 to 7.0 on someone that's done absolutely nothing wrong in terms of performances. The tears and emotion have moved the price the same way that phone votes get generated. It's called sales and the public fall for it and so do some of the punters.

No secret and an obvious thing for me. I never played 14.0 on the basis that she can't win due to the mass of the public.

Maybe Cher has played her hand (because I can't see how it could get much better) but even if that's the case her hand is a royal flush. 

For her still to be 4th fav now tells me the value has not gone,  because Simon was right when he said that was the best performance of the series.  I honestly believe Cher is a genuine 2/1 shot right now.  I understand the appeal of each of the three acts above her in the market but I don't think any of them have earned the right to a shorter price than Cher.

So why is she still 6/1?  Sometimes markets underreact to events which have just taken place because it involves a major shift of position.  I see it a lot in the NFL in-running when game changing turnovers occur.  It is very difficult psychologically to back something at a low price when you know you just had the opportunity to take much bigger odds.

Maybe I'm wrong.  I'm not a Special Bets specialist.  We'll see.

have to say that last night was pure class, she has showed that she isn't a one trick pony, i'm confused why (unlike in marys case) rebecca hasn't come under more pressure to do something different than just standing in one spot and moving her left hand about, however much a wonderful singer she is.......what needs to happen with cher now , is for the powers that be to just shake that bit of negativity that remains around her a little i think left over from the whole gamugate situation.....i want to see them do different things and last night i was won over by her.

idiots that waste money backing her on the basis of one song
she is possibly the most revilled in the comp cant for the life of me see where the vote would come from to sweep her to victory
my grandson cries at the picture of her and screams when she craps but hey he does the same when tweedy mimes

her presence in the latter stages is doubtful imo

but if she makes it that's bad news for one direction

one direction v cher v matt for example

= matt walkover

It's a fair discussion regular joe. We do have to analyze prices at what is available, not what has lapsed.

If you feel that she is a 2-1 shot, then you should bet.

For me it's hard to believe that this won't be the peak of her momentum, for now at least.

aa - isn't a two runner final not 3?

Cher is not a 2/1 shot. Though she did smash them all last night I should imagine.

She has the most likes on facebook by quite a substantial margin.

What has really struck me about this year's XFactor is the way that virtually everyone I have spoken to loves Matt and can't stand Cher, I've honestly never known such consistent responses.  Even my hairdresser who is chatting to people all day every day about X Factor says she is yet to meet anyone who likes Cher.  I thought she was fantastic this weekend even if it wasn't a hugely challenging song, so maybe she will start to win people over, but she does have a very long way to go, and this is a particularly strong field this year.

I have her as a big green but just layed some off. I don't think she has cross over popularity needed to win this.  Predicting last night was the way to win on Cher.

I think Cher's syle of music is exactly the sort of thing Cowell would say is "relevant".  I have noticed Cowell has signed Labrinth to his Syco label, which is the first act he's signed that hasn't come from one of his talent shows for a while.  Tinchy Stryder, who works with Labrinth, has been bigging up Cher.  Cowell has been supporting Cher from the start - at one point claiming she was genius and last saturday stating that her performance was the perfomance of the series.  I can see them pushing for Cher to bbe there until the end.  I don't particularly like her but I now think she'll be a real contender to win this.

weres all the haters nowcher fav in 10 days

no one trick pony carries the timeform large p

crab paste

drifty greeny[;)]

you want her red crab

g.t no one knows what the a.t.m

oh dear u r one deluded fool NO CHANCE OF BEING FAV IN NEXT 2 WEEKS;u r tone deaf and or blind lol

Cher Lloyd, 17, said she was sick of badgirl rap songs

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/161081/X-Factor-2010-Simon-Cowell-s-fed-up-with-tantrums

I wonder what act boyband week will suit?

ABANDON SHIP!!

o.k [;)]

cher no chance u fools;wash ur ears out;5th class compared to rebecca

back to the old price yipee

we tried to tell you.

the finals never before the clocks go back

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As aa says, we tried to tell you. You even come back with "where's all the Cher haters now". Wipe the egg off your face. Listen to the pros, not the knee jerk idiots that have no clue how to trade these markets. As promised last week, back to her original price now, even bigger. All forgotton about as I advised. Not "still value at 7", not overpriced. A superb lay at 6.8 and a very good move for the people that were on before last week. The market was kind to you, but you will not see that price again now.

[;)]time to start nibbling again ....

time to steam out imho

ballad again this week she will scrub up again crabbie not wanting her to peak to soon green up part 2cher

crab

If she's so good at the ballads and she undoubtably was the best of the night a couple of weeks back, why go back to the rap type stuff which is obviously alienating a big percentage of the voters?

Whatever she does is not good enough.

i think shes trying to keep two balls in the air and show j.p shes versatile lou..currant and old style that way she gets young vote and old vote its a gamble but she back to same price after she proved she could sing chers in secound place..a.t.m ..i.m.o think its another good week this week for her she can step up again the girls got the minerals.... still long way to go yet for her to peak ......

so its elton john week

Why the doubling of her price though in one week again?  Doesn't bode well and most people seeing it as a two horse race.

shes the sleeperlou  i aint saying no more if im wrong then im wrong

If she's so good at the ballads and she undoubtably was the best of the night a couple of weeks back, why go back to the rap type stuff which is obviously alienating a big percentage of the voters?

because it's an entertainment show, not a proper competition?

bookies pushing her out ???[;)]

lets hope its danielcher

or if shes in lve? dont go breaking my heartNAP!!!

just turn your swag on cher GO GIRL

cher cant sing;like one direction take away the big productions and they r carp,rebecca by a mile then matt its 2 horse race u fools

yes i get the message l.p

l.p listen to turn my swag on have a cup of tea and calm down then you might learn something about the music industry

so the futures rebbecca mmm yes nod mmm yes mmm yes mmnod

layprofessional, lay off crab a bit mate. You're not really adding value with your after the event comments. "Rebecca and Matt, it's a two horse race" - yeah brilliant mate, shame you didn't think that from week one.Crab's entitled to his view, even if it is wrong.

Apart from Rebecca, there's no act I look forward to more than Cher. However, experience in betting on this event tells me she cannot possibly win. Cher will not be popular enough I'm afraid. She is the best of the rest for me...I cannot bear Blonde Erection.

i backed her pete at 16s very early with high street firms very small my friend and from auditions ive said the same cos im in the industry;CHER HAS NO CHANCE OF WINNING FACTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

agreed one direction terrible

we know go and bore some one else[>o]

listen, Cher has a good chance of winning. shes young & hip, and i also know this cause my girlfriends 14yr old daughter...is amazed by her. shes says when she come home from school all her firends vote for her, and personaily i think shes init to win it! she might have a 'secret' contract with the Mr Simon Cowall to stay until the final.So you layprofessional
you chat out your asss!!! :)

its not kids that pick the winner u dope;ITS COWELL R U SO THICK?

by the way if ur daughters girlfriend follows this type id be worried for her;not a nice individual to be following imo

1. simon does pick the winner WELL DONE. and i know for a FACT that he loves her! and id LOL if you are chatting out your ass :)
2. and im not so thick, if you think about it ..it all counts in the 'votes' and i can guarantee you that Cher will be in the final and she will be in the final 3. the public WILL vote.
3. and who are you to judge my girlfirends daughter? i was using that as an egsample. so keep your slimy comments to your self...yeah?

2years simons waited[;)]i see were getting to 16s sooncher

patties u r one deluded human being lolllllllllllllllllllllll

by the way u r thick EXAMPLE IS HOW U SPELL IT

lay

U R is spelt 'you are'

Just thought I'd let you know in case you didn't know the full spelling.


MATT'S GONNA WIN THE X FACTOR AND YOU'RE ALL MUGS IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT!

Ahem, that's better.  Deep breaths, deep breaths.

or "you're"

i see oly tipping her for winner

just one more thing not important really simons doing a secret record deal with massive summer BIGUP!

who's oly?

how long above 10s chr clearly starting to bloom

[:love[;)]:]

green up part 2 complete[;)]sub10s very soon

now the market cant make its mind up be aware chair is massive value @ 10s

10/1 about someone who can't possibly win?

no thanks.

i repeat she has NO CHANCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Cher is the most popular on facebook and youtube, 2nd most followers on twitter, she has every chance, I reckon she's really about 3/1

do facebook, youtube and twitter users decide who wins on final night?

as a one of win bet without laying off, i wouldn't even back her at 30/1 never mind 3/1.

oh dear ffs it doesnt matter about who is winning hits on you tube etc;COWELL DECIDES

*one off*

ffs!!