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Larry_Larry
09 Oct 10 13:49
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Lifted this from another website but I agree.

So far I have had a very good record in choosing the winner of X-Factor (had Joe McElderry last year and Alexandra Burke before that) and Britains Got Talent from early on and hopefully that will continue. Whatever you think of the shows I do believe that they offer a genuine betting opportunity.

This year it's looking stronger than ever, but I think Aiden Grimshaw is a stand out and represents superb value at 10/1 (Boyles, StanJames). The first live show is this evening, after which the market can be expected to change significantly, so it may be worth taking advantage of this now. His singing is excellent, he comes across as a very nice guy and girls (biggest voters) will find him attractive.

As for the other contenders, favourites Rebecca Ferguson and Matt Cardle (both 7/2) have both come across as likeable people and they will clearly have a lot of fans. I expect they'll perform strongly but I think both are vulnerable to somebody with a bit more originality about them.

That takes me to Cher Lloyd and Aiden Grimshaw, the two most original acts in this years line up. Cher had a bad time in the last round and broke down, failing to finish her song at the judges house. She's only 16 and although the break down will lead to a lot of sympathy, there's also still a lot of anger from those whom felt Gamu should have got through ahead of her. In addition I think this has come too soon for her and I have a feeling she may prove too fragile.

The other danger is the boyband One Direction (5/1), managed by Simon Cowell. All decent singers individually, but this group have been put together only in the latter stages of the judging rounds. I think they may lack the togetherness of a self formed band although their youth and looks will ensure a loyal army of female followers.

After that comes Aiden at 10/1. He has done nothing wrong so far and I genuinely believe that this is as good a bet as I've seen on X-Factor. The only worry I have is the song choice from Danni Minogue as I think she's usually the worst of the judges for it and the weakest mentor. I also wondered if he might be gay (they have a good record - Joe last year and Will Young) but I heard he's getting close with Cher Lloyd.

I'd be interested to know if any of the regulars on here have been watching the show and have thoughts of their own on this bet. Good luck!
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Report squares October 9, 2010 2:55 PM BST
And certainly people on XF can be made to look like they have stage presence and can connect with an audience through camera work, close ups, etc.  (Joe's toothy grin and puppy-dog eyes.)  A different matter when having to command a massive stage in the real world.

Similarly, some people I have found pretty nondescript from TV appearances have ended up being terrific live performers with real ability to work a crowd.
Report Mikeeey October 9, 2010 2:58 PM BST
I've just had another look at his judges house audition on YouTube.  His singing ability is competent and probably good enough to win X-Factor if he had the right songs and comments along with some luck.  XF is more about finding a pop star than a good singer, so I can see why he ticks all the right boxes for some people.
However, he strikes me  as a bit of a actor.  He over-do's the hand gesures and facial expressions.  This wouldn't be so bad if he had the soul (and voice) of Luther Vandross.  But with a bland stage school singer (imo)like Grimmy, it comes across as too contrived.   He may last right until the end like Olly Murs did,  but at this stage I'm happy to be against him.
Report Larry_Larry October 9, 2010 2:59 PM BST
Any like to the Man in the Mirror performance?
Report Larry_Larry October 9, 2010 3:02 PM BST
I mean link.
Report bunnyman October 9, 2010 3:26 PM BST
no Larry, couldn't find one on youtube.  I think it was on the 1st show last week, so you could have a look on iplayer.
Report five leaves left October 9, 2010 4:09 PM BST
cider - I find Cardie just as soulless and any emotion on show as contrived as Dan and Afro from last year.
Report GeorgeBrush October 9, 2010 4:20 PM BST
The hat gives him loads of character man
Report cjhornet October 9, 2010 4:27 PM BST
hes not wearing his hat tonight Cry
Report seanvice October 9, 2010 4:48 PM BST
He was my pick from the audition shows, I dont really like having a big bet on the X Factor outright though until I see some of the live shows.

I like American Idol where you can get humble, good looking, good singing, young guys at 50/1+ a week before the live shows Cool
Report squares October 9, 2010 5:12 PM BST
. GrinCool
Report A1 Bionic October 9, 2010 5:32 PM BST
might be first on tonight
Report GeorgeBrush October 9, 2010 5:42 PM BST
Doubt anyone setting up Turbot's autocue would have a clue until this eve tbh
Report A1 Bionic October 9, 2010 5:46 PM BST
More of a clue than us george
Report GeorgeBrush October 9, 2010 6:12 PM BST
true(ish)
Report dananders October 9, 2010 6:59 PM BST
agreed. got an excellent song choice .
Report dananders October 9, 2010 7:00 PM BST
hes an aas but it seems people dont c it
Report GeorgeBrush October 9, 2010 7:13 PM BST
I'm sure Louis does
Report Larry Sellers October 9, 2010 7:35 PM BST
I agree with Larry
Report Big Ern October 9, 2010 7:40 PM BST
its a well known fact that everyone with the name Larry is a mug
Report Goldie08 October 9, 2010 9:10 PM BST
chooo choooo
Report GT October 9, 2010 9:59 PM BST
^
Report seanvice October 9, 2010 10:11 PM BST
Not a big bet for me on him, but at least got some on at 10. My idea of the winner as soon as I saw his audition.
Report GT October 9, 2010 10:13 PM BST
he was best performance by a country mile
Report Larry Sellers October 9, 2010 10:14 PM BST
Big Ern Joined:  09 Oct 10 19:40   

its a well known fact that everyone with the name Larry is a mug


Now who's the mug??? LaughLaughLaughLaughGrinLaugh
Report itcanbedone October 9, 2010 10:15 PM BST
Lay lay lay.  Song hid all manner of issues.
Report larrence October 9, 2010 10:25 PM BST
matt cardle will win on the bridle. Cool
Report five leaves left October 9, 2010 10:25 PM BST
I think it hid just how good his voice is.

Much more to come from the lad imo
Report mythical prince October 9, 2010 10:26 PM BST
gay and boring.
Report five leaves left October 9, 2010 10:30 PM BST
Thanks, but what about Aiden?
Report larrence October 9, 2010 10:32 PM BST
Laugh lol Laugh
Report GT October 9, 2010 10:50 PM BST
is mythical outed himself?Shocked
Report GeorgeBrush October 9, 2010 11:04 PM BST
Well that was fantastic. I just hope he hasn't shot his bolt week 1
Report Guybrush Threepwood October 9, 2010 11:09 PM BST
Typical week 1 over reaction market. Easy lay at this stage.
Report GeorgeBrush October 9, 2010 11:10 PM BST
He's over 4/1 Guy

It's hardly 1.8
Report Angela Rebecchi October 10, 2010 4:02 AM BST
Winner imho.
Report pmbets October 10, 2010 6:46 AM BST
I thought the most interesting singer was Rebecca Ferguson.The song was totally unsuitable for her and I am very suprised they picked this teardrops.
Anyway she did a realy good job of it.That's why I think she will come through stronger later on.Good luck all.By the way didnt think aiden was much of a singer
and he has a confusing look about him.
Report jack12321 October 10, 2010 7:18 AM BST
Not sure if the younger (voting) audience would have really appreciated his Mad World performance as much as the drop in odds would indicate.

Having said that, it all feels rather like McElderry II in various ways.
Report GeorgeBrush October 10, 2010 8:15 AM BST
Got a bit more of an edge than Joe I think. Of course that can be a negative as much as a positive

The interesting factor increased, the cuddly factor decreased
Report Larry Sellers October 10, 2010 12:39 PM BST
Has he got aspergers or a other form of autism?  He seems very awkward and will come across as a weirdo to the typical viewer but a revelation that he suffers from such a disorder would boost his public appeal no end imo.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 10, 2010 12:43 PM BST
Does look very awkward agreed.  Needs to lighten up a bit.
Report Angela Rebecchi October 10, 2010 12:45 PM BST
He stands out though, which is a massive plus. Got a touch of the Lamberts about him. Very competitive year and not convinced he has a range.
Report Larry Sellers October 10, 2010 12:55 PM BST
not sure what he is going to do when it is 'Abba week'
Report GeorgeBrush October 10, 2010 12:56 PM BST
Very reminiscent of Lambert yes. I suspect he'll have seen his tapes
Report Angela Rebecchi October 10, 2010 1:06 PM BST
He said Lambert was his favourite current artist in an interview. Suspect Cowell and the producers suggested Mad World too. Worked perfectly though.
Report Mikeeey October 10, 2010 1:19 PM BST
I must admit I under-estimated Grimmy.  His performance last night was possibly the best of the whole show with a great song choice too.  Should be interesting to see how he shapes up
Report Henry VIII October 10, 2010 3:38 PM BST
His expressions and shirt made him look like a straight jacketed psycho but a mega performance - my favourite of the show.
Report Larry_Larry October 10, 2010 8:19 PM BST
Just watched it - my boy did the business!
Report itcanbedone October 10, 2010 9:00 PM BST
Touch of the lamberts my a$$.  Not fit to lace his boots.
Report Larry_Larry October 12, 2010 5:11 PM BST
Aiden doing everything right so far. I hear the download of his song from the first live show has proved most popular too. Even still represents a great value bet. Bring on Saturday!
Report Asparagus Man October 12, 2010 6:45 PM BST
Pimp slot week 1 on previous series fwiw:

Tabby Callaghan
Andy Abraham
Leona Lewis
Hope
Laura White
Danyl Johnson
Report johnnyrant October 12, 2010 11:36 PM BST
He appears to be gay, which is one of the few big positives. Big over-reaction to what was simply a great tune for him to sing. If Matt Cardle had sung it, he'd be shorter and it would have got even more downloads.
Report wondersobright October 12, 2010 11:54 PM BST
Novelty bets not really my area, but I was forced to watch this at the weekend, and I thought this lad looked the winner all over.

Expected around 7/4 to be honest, think he's a great bet at the odds.
Report Larry_Larry October 17, 2010 8:03 PM BST
Poor night for my boy last night but keep the faith.
Report in hell October 17, 2010 8:45 PM BST
Has no chance

Really annoying when singing and is unwatchable
Report GeorgeBrush October 17, 2010 8:46 PM BST
Back on, and in big style
Report pmbets October 17, 2010 9:02 PM BST
Poor old aiden in the bottom 3
Report limited ability October 17, 2010 9:36 PM BST
A very good singer.

But his interviewing technique is very poor.

Needs a lot of help in this department.

It's all part of the package.
Report THEY know October 17, 2010 9:52 PM BST
He has two problems I think.  One is he 'tries too hard' instead of just getting on with singing the song.  This had disastrous consequences last night, he was all over the place.  The other problem I think is that he needs glasses but does not wear them on stage, presumably due to vanity.  And he looks like a person who needs glasses but is not wearing them, if you know what I mean.

On the other hand he is definitely capable of being one of the better singers.

They could transform his chances in one week if they could coach the trying too hard thing out of him and get him to wear his glasses on stage.  The dark rimmed glasses being quite fashionable at the moment with the youth.  Who knows, that might even be the plan!
Report Mikeeey October 17, 2010 10:08 PM BST
he may be too much of a liability now...last night reminded me of that young girl (Holly) on BGT that forgot her words and started crying on live tv...Grimshaw looked like he could of gone the same way last night
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 17, 2010 10:10 PM BST
Safely through but needs to improve on last night.  Got 'something' but defiantely a bit weird.  I can see the wearing glasses point too.
Report alfie46 October 17, 2010 10:18 PM BST
a mask would help.visually disturbing
Report crab patties October 18, 2010 12:01 PM BST
looks like a physo killer cant win
Report dananderson October 18, 2010 1:18 PM BST
ye cant win has an epileptic fit on stage evry performance . ive always hated the lil weasel
Report rogerthebutler October 18, 2010 3:29 PM BST
Autism poster boy
Report Henry VIII October 18, 2010 5:15 PM BST
He ticks every box except one - great voice, good looking, trendy, young, not arrogant.

The box he fails to tick is - "I am not a mentalist."
Report Angela Rebecchi October 18, 2010 5:17 PM BST
Great voice, when he doesn't hit a bum note, which is fairly regularly.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 18, 2010 5:25 PM BST
I thought he was in with a very very good chance when watching the auditions and had a great first week.  Really blew it on Saturday though.  they should have lowered the key as he couldn't get near the top notes.
Report Mikeeey October 18, 2010 6:34 PM BST
I'd like to know if Grimmer really did choose to sing Jealous Guy like Dannii said on saturday or whether the song was chosen for him.  I've bailed out on him because I have no confidence in him at all.  If he bounces back in the coming weeks then I shall have to call him Lazarus Grimshaw - can't see it though!
Report Angela Rebecchi October 18, 2010 8:06 PM BST
Looks an awesome lay, even still at 11s imho.
Report itcanbedone October 18, 2010 8:38 PM BST
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Winner imho.

Angela Rebecchi Joined: 15 Sep 02
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Looks an awesome lay, even still at 11s imho

?????????
Report DeSSieReborn October 18, 2010 8:55 PM BST
one trick pony springs to mind
Report Larry_Larry October 18, 2010 11:39 PM BST
He whom keeps the faith shalt be richly rewarded.
Report Angela Rebecchi October 18, 2010 11:52 PM BST
My original pick but have smashed lays on him, don't see him winning. Horrible initial call but happy to rectify it. Still make him a monster lay.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B October 19, 2010 10:02 AM BST
I'd lay him at your peril.  Terriffic first week and messed up last week because the key was too high.  Sang some of it well bar thge really high note in each verse.  I'm already on him but wouldn't want to lay him at 10/1.  A real contender me thinks.
Report Mikeeey October 19, 2010 10:56 AM BST
It wasn't just the "key was too high" that was the problem.  When he makes a mistake he cracks and the whole performance goes to pot.  He did manage to hold it together quite well on saturday - but only just.  He's too nervous and I reckon he believed he was better than he really is, particularly after a good first week.  He may now realise that there are better performers than him in the show.  I wouldn't be surprised if he walked out tbh.
Report rogerthebutler October 19, 2010 2:01 PM BST
Nonsense - he's waxed his chest and everything!
Report Larry_Larry October 23, 2010 4:14 PM BST
Anybody know what the theme is for this evening or what Aiden will be singing? I'm thinking of increasing my win bet on him.
Report Johnny`Honk`Fartpants October 23, 2010 4:16 PM BST
Aiden - Diamonds Are Forever

Theme - Guilty Pleasures
Report Larry_Larry October 23, 2010 9:26 PM BST
So what did you all think? I told you my boy would do it!
Report Guybrush Threepwood October 23, 2010 9:42 PM BST
Like I said:

Guybrush Threepwood Joined: 07 Jun 06
Replies: 5096 09 Oct 10 23:09 

Typical week 1 over reaction market. Easy lay at this stage.
Report Angela Rebecchi October 23, 2010 9:43 PM BST
Someone wants 5k on him at 19s

LOL, desperate to keep his price from sky rocketing. GL, lads never a winner.
Report Flagship2 October 23, 2010 9:52 PM BST
Not a chance. The 9k has to be some poor sod who had lumped on at sub 11 and needs to get a packet laid off now they realise he has no chance of winning and its the only way of contracting the price. Just spoke to my wife and she reckons he should be out this week! The 32 to go is a much better bet than 19 to win imo.
Report dan hardcore October 23, 2010 9:55 PM BST
i thought he was quite good tonight.
Report Flagship2 October 23, 2010 9:57 PM BST
Dan - is that your 9k?
Report dan hardcore October 23, 2010 10:07 PM BST
it was flahship...just wondered what would happen.
Report Flagship2 October 23, 2010 10:12 PM BST
If I had the bottle and the bank I wish I could have obliged you. I quite like him but nerves are getting the better of him and folk don't seem to like him - cannot win imo.
Report dan hardcore October 23, 2010 10:17 PM BST
i've liked him every week i've seen him, not normally the best strategy for betting on these shows, but at last there's plenty of time for everyone else to change their minds!
Report squares October 23, 2010 10:19 PM BST
Aiden fans on XtraFactor look like swingers / doggers Plain
Report Flagship2 October 23, 2010 10:23 PM BST
To be honest mate I follow the same theory and its worked really well. Have never missed a winner in these things and often at boot camp or within the first 2 or 3 weeks....really think Rebecca is the real thing this time around. She stands out even though nobody seems to know the songs she is given, another Leona for me.
Aiden was great on week 1 but it was the perfect song for him.
I do fear the little fellas though, a ready made boyband.
Report Larry_Larry October 24, 2010 10:31 AM BST
*bump*
Report layprofessional October 24, 2010 10:49 AM BST
aiden no chance;talentless;larry u have lost the plot
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 11:00 AM BST
Not worth bumping Larry_Larry, let it go mate.
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 7:32 PM BST
I'll bump it anyway.
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 7:37 PM BST
Sorry [:x]
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 7:52 PM BST
But then again, Aiden (that's his name right ?) deserves to be in the last 10.
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 8:01 PM BST
Good evening Grin
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 8:24 PM BST
nice guy though.
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 8:28 PM BST
Aiden that is.
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 8:33 PM BST
Larry_Larry knows everything so who cares.
Report One footed pony October 24, 2010 8:38 PM BST
I'm out of bumps mate, sorry.
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