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misha the russian
05 Jul 10 08:33
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I need advice.

If I bet on top 4 goalscorers lets say 100 euros and there is a dead heat with two players with 5 goals and three with 4 goals.

Do I win anything from my 100?Or do I actually lose something?

Thanks for your help!
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Report MRGRUMPY1 July 5, 2010 9:16 AM BST
Think its something along the lines of -
stake x odds x (number of payouts divided by number of tied players
Full details should be somewhere in T&Cs.
Report db1974 July 5, 2010 9:27 AM BST
If the player you back has scored 5 goals then you will win your bet with no deductions.

If your player is tied on 4 goals with 2 others then 2/3rds of your stake wins and the other 1/3 is a loser
Report budgiebird. July 5, 2010 10:09 AM BST
Hi-jacking this thread slightly, if I am betting on David Villa for top scorer and he finishes on five goals tied with two others, what price do I need to be backing him to ensure that my "winner" does not end up losing me money?
Report Pythagoras July 5, 2010 10:16 AM BST
2/1; then 2/3rds would lose and 1/3 win at 2/1 retruning your orginal unit stake. If you can find 2's Villa let me know and I'll get my wheelbarrow ready!
Report budgiebird. July 5, 2010 10:19 AM BST
Thanks Pythagoras. I will get back to you after the semi's to let you know where you can get 2/1. Happy
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 6, 2010 9:02 AM BST
I attempted to mathematically price this up using a 5goal/4goal sliding scale (as one players chances of 5 goals went up the chances of the combined number of 4 goals went down by the same figure.

Villa 100%
Klose 75%
Schneider 67%
Muller 54%
Vittek/Higuain 40%
Forlan 19.6%
Suarez 8.6%
Podolski 2.5%
which came to 406.7% ..so obv a small error somewhere

Rebased to 400% and giving an ad hoc figure of 2.5% to the rest of the field (which is less than the market price) it came up with the following prices

Villa 1.00
Klose 1.36
Schneider 1.53
Muller 1.89
Vittek/Higuain 2.55
Forlan 5.2
Suarez 12
Podski 40

so the market looks quite accurate to me although partly will be due to my money betting to those prices
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 6, 2010 9:04 AM BST
Of course I should be talking about Wesley Sneijder the Dutch footballer and not Roy Schneider from Jaws
Report Steeeeeeeeeevo July 9, 2010 5:31 PM BST
In a golf tournament, Tiger Woods wins, Vijay Singh finishes second, Phil Mickelson third, but five players tie for fourth. This creates a multiple dead-heat for fourth and fifth place.

So in this case, if you backed Luke Donald for £5 at 10.0 for a Top 5 finish and he finished in the tied group of players, you would receive

Stake x Odds x No. of Payouts / No. of Tied runners = £5 x 10.0 x 2 / 5 = £20
Report cunnybobbler July 9, 2010 5:43 PM BST
how much would i have got back on ernie els?
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