ARGENTINA V GERMANY

full bank argentina. if they palyed in gold they would be odds on

Germany to qualify the bet of this tie.

Would have to take argentina to win, cant see germany having enough possession or enough up front, be suprised if germany scored

Germany youth to rip Argentina's old defence.

Over 2.5 goals at odds against is my bet..

Argentina forward line v German defence is a very good match up for Argentina. Ghana created many chances against Germany but didn't take them, I'm far from convinced the German defence is a strength. England for a very short spell really had them rattled also. The centre backs are very tall and can be turned so Messi playing in Tevez/Higuain must be a nightmare for the Geman manager.

Argentina may decide to play defensively and try and win in a low scoring match like their last encounter this year in Munich, which they won one nil. I'm discounting this possibility from what I have seen of the two teams so far in this competition.

Expecting Argetina to win a thoroughly entertaining match and for there to be plenty goal Hope I'm right

Agreed Bex

Mexico 0-1 Uruguay
Argentina 4-1 South Korea
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Uruguay 2-1 South Korea
Argentina 3-1 Mexico

Both Argentina and Uruguay beat Mexico & South Korea.  Argentina beat both more easily, but are Argentina that great?

They were flattered against Mexico with an offside goal, and a bad mistake that gave the ball to Higuein.  The Mexico goal made them look ordinary at the back.

The master tactician that is Joachim Loew will win this game.

Tough one to call, I'm not convinced Argentina are as strong a favourite as the odds suggest. 

However, it's worth noting that Argentina beat Germany 1-0 in a friendly in Munich on 3rd March this year and the line-ups were very similar to what we can expect in the Q/F. 

Was a tight game of few chances so Friday's game may not be the goalfest many are expecting.

Both teams attack in numbers and have pedestrian looking centre halves in front of keepers prone to the odd comedy moment. I think it will be a classic that will be decided in favour of the team that bosses the middle of the park best. It could be this years stand-out game and might well finish something like 4-3, I don't mind who wins.

One point I made weeks ago is that Argentina had a rough route to the quarter finals

Johannesburg (5,700 feet)
Johannesburg
Polokwane
Johannesburg

Those matches at altitude might have tired them.

There defenders are a little elderly:

Martín Demichelis (age 29.5)
Clemente Rodríguez (age 28.9)
Nicolás Burdisso (age 29.2)
Gabriel Heinze (age 32.2)
Ariel Garcé (age 30.9)
Walter Samuel (age 32.2)
Nicolás Otamendi (age 22.3)

and the Germany attack

Stefan Kießling    (age 26.4)
Lukas Podolski (age 25.0)
Miroslav Klose (aged 32.0)
Thomas Müller (aged 20.8)
Cacau (age 29.2)
Mario Gómez (age 24.9)

and this is game 5.

* Their

Germany midfield

Sami Khedira (age 23.2)
Bastian Schweinsteiger (age 25.9)
Mesut Özil (age 21.7)
Piotr Trochowski (aged 26.2)
Toni Kroos (age 20.4)
Marko Marin (age 21.3)

I see where you are going Kincsem and it may turn out to be a valid point but from what you have posted (thanks btw) the Argentina team isn't exactly past it. Samuel and Heinze 32? not too old for me to start thinking about the match being decided by fitness/energy levels.

I'm already committed towards a high scoring match, who wins I think comes down to the midfield battle. I expect Veron to start, I think he was being rested against Mexico in a match they expected to win . He came on and played 20 mins at the end around the time Mexico had scored ( I think) to see the game out. With an experienced playmaker and with the possibility of Germany not assigning someone to Messi I expect Germany to be doing most of the chasing and hence my expectation for Argentina to win.
I think they will play a kind of 4-4-1-1 formation to ensure they can at least match Germany in midfield.

http://argentina.worldcupblog.org/

has a few recent bits and pieces on the match some may find interesting and has what I think Argentina's likely team and formation will be. Who knows exactly what is going through Maradona's mind though to be fair

I think Germany could leak goals as they have been opened a few times by lesser teams.
It is the game of the World Cup, possibly better than the final.

Overs both very good attacks, both poor/average defences.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/paul-the-octopus-world-cu_n_630776.html

"Paul, an octopus in Oberhausen, Germany, gained notice around the world last week by blowing away soccer fans with his wise World Cup picks. The marvelous mollusk accurately predicted the outcome of all of Germany's group play matches (...)"

Paul, the Octupus pick's: Germany beats Argentina but feels it will be a tough game =)

lay of argies in match odds for me

What price do you think under 2.5 will be at kick off?

i watched the germany v  argentina match that was played in munich .

and i dont think the germans had a shot at goal the whole game.

argentina passed them off the park and as you say the teams will be very similar.

Argentina will stuff them

i kinda think all four 4trs will deliver on goals and see this match as a certainty to do so along with the Brazil game. money down soon.

what did the octopus predict?

i've layed Germany on the outright now at 8's

wish me luck

People have said Messi is due a goal every game since the first and he's still yet to score.

http://clintbeefman.wordpress.com/

backed Germany at 16 before the opening game and again before England game. Didn't fancy the Argies before the tournament but now sufficiently worried to lay half my green to cover my stakes. Really can't call this one.

Would agree with Overs as both sides relatively weak in defence.

Have a strong fancy for Germany here. Tactically astute, they will subdue Messi and hence subdue Argentina.  Don't think the Argie defence will cope with the German movement.

Deja vu of 4 years ago when an Arie side playing well came a cropper against the lesser fancied Germans.

This is the one where Diego's tactical limitations are exposed.

I'm starting to think the Germans will win - in fact I've put them in my multis.

I may even add germans with my last two transfers (sky fantasy football)

Lechampagne Joined: 20 Jan 06
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what did the octopus predict? 


A very important factor. He is yet to make a mistake

Gone for the Germans here

Paul, the Octupus pick's: Germany beats Argentina but feels it will be a tough game =)

experience wins world cups,and that is what the Germans lack.Argys getting better every game,and if Germany have to chase this game,they will get ripped apart.Argys by 2 goals for me

^ more non-facts.

World Cup 2006 semi-final

[1] Jens LEHMANN (GK)
[3] Arne FRIEDRICH
[5] Sebastian KEHL
[11] Miroslav KLOSE (-111')
[13] Michael BALLACK (C)
[16] Philipp LAHM
[17] Per MERTESACKER
[18] Tim BOROWSKI (-73')
[19] Bernd SCHNEIDER (-83')
[20] Lukas PODOLSKI
[21] Christoph METZELDER

Substitute(s)
[7] Bastian SCHWEINSTEIGER (+73')
[10] Oliver NEUVILLE (+111')
[22] David ODONKOR (+83')



Euro 2008 final

GERMANY:
 
GK 1 Jens Lehmann
RB 3 Arne Friedrich
CB 17 Per Mertesacker
CB 21 Christoph Metzelder
LB 16 Philipp Lahm  46'
CM 8 Torsten Frings
CM 15 Thomas Hitzlsperger   58'
RW 7 Bastian Schweinsteiger
AM 13 Michael Ballack (c)  43'
LW 20 Lukas Podolski
CF 11 Miroslav Klose  79'

Substitutions:
DF 2 Marcell Jansen   46'
FW 22 Kevin Kurányi  88'  58'
FW 9 Mario Gómez


For the Germany v England game the same story was put out that England had more experience.  Of course that ignored the fact that more than half this Germany team played in the 2006 semi-final and Euro 2008 final, whereas England hadn't been near a final or semi-final for twenty years.

Fancy argies for this, but the germans know how to win these games, however they only beat a very poor England side last time out and conceded 2 goals legitamate,into the bargin and if they can concede 2 against England, then I'm sure the Argies,will win this.

The euro's mean nothing Greece and Denmark have won that in the last 20 years

Is that why England don't bother winning it?

Ha ha ha.. We are just a top 20 football nation that think we are better than what we really are,the best players dont play in england

ENGLAND -BIGGEST LOSERS IN THE WORLD!!!


ARGENTINA WITH EASE ...HERE 3-1!!!

happy not to be Eng;lish ....country lost with non working multiculturalism....marxist ideology!!!