5 Reasons why England team did not do well .

you sure it was just heskey who was out of form?
and anyway i can't tell the difference betwwen him being out of form and in form

5 reasons... 1.cant retain possesion of the ball
             2.glen johnson and ashley cole would be perfect as wing backs
             3.terry and king/upson never played together(most important partenership in the team)
             4.players like heskey being picked in the first place
             5.the arrogance of the english public,media and england team

"4. Heskey was out of form"

Yeah, right - he's scored 7 times in 62 internationals - he's wasn't out of form, he's just fvcking useless.

I pretty much agree that the 5 reasons were contributory factors, but for me you missed what I believe was the biggest reason England did not do well against Germany. That is purely and simply the 2nd goal not been given.

I believe you can forget what happened after because it changed the whole pattern of the match as Cappello with his relatively poor  English was trying to point out in  apost match interview.

Germany 2-0 up then going in at half-time 2-2 would have changed the whole complexion of the match. Germany were winning when they should not have been so they need not take any risks and could sit back and play on the counter attack, England had to equalise so were forced by inept officials to play a different way.
Yes AFTER no goal given Germany completly dominated I doubt if both teams would have had the same mindsets at the start of the 2nd half.
I`m suprised the so-called BBC experts failed to emphasise  strongly enough just how match changing the 2nd England goal not being given was.

england would have been fortunate to be level.the germans would have got ther composure back during half time,and won the game anyway.we never created any clear cut chances just a couple of half chances.they looked dangerous every time they attacked

1. English players are not world class
2. English players are not world class
3. English players are not world class
4. English players are not world class
5. English players are not world class

Germany were always the bet

t i g e r t i p s

most of them not international class, even

lampard is so crap that he can score and it still isnt a goal

adam johnson best young english player and left footed not even in squad wat a joke

5 reasons,1 kick & rush
          2 no quality character or depth
          3 over rated over hyped over payed
          4 tabloids massaging their egos(so they can get quotes & soundbites from them)
          5 then the biggest problem ARROGANCE, ARROGANCE, ARROGANCE & CONTEMPT for the
            public.they're back in blighty today picking up their half a million for a
            months work laughing at us all

Heres 24 reasons, the squad of 23 plus the manager , easy innit.

Jimmy Commas post above makes a lot of sense. The disallowed goal may well have been match changing. But England would have been very fortunate to go in 2-2 at half time after being absolutely run off the park in the first 35 minutes of the game.

England did need to push forward more in the second half, being 2-1 down, but they went about it in a pretty inept way, leaving themselves far too open at the back at far too early a stage in the second half.

I don't think the German side was that much superior to England in footballing terms. There are clearly plenty of weaknesses in the German side, particularly in defence. But on the day they out thought England, they retained their composure far better, they had a much better shape to the team, and they showed a far superior understanding of how to play the modern game; in particular. how to use the player in the hole to best effect and how important it is to play through the holding midfield player in key stages of the game.

Had Germany gone in 2-2 at half time after leading 2-0, it  might have unsettled them to such an extent that they would unravel in the second half. But having made so many goal scoring chances in the first half, I think it more likely the Germans would have come back in the second half pretty confident they could open up England again and restore their lead easily enough.

Five reasons why England did not do well:

1. Coaching of young players in England - far too little emphasis given to teaching the importance of team work on the field and far too little emphasis given to the development of talented players mentally, as opposed to just physically. Not to be unkind, but England players often look brain dead on the field by comparison with many of those they are playing against from other countries.

2. Coach with limited English skills - much has to get lost in translation there surely.

3. Behind the times tactically - the side showed so little appreciation of how to play the modern game; so little grasp of what tactical developments have helped sides like Chelsea and Barcelona, and the Spanish national side, be so successful in recent times.

4. Weak spine to the team - problems with the key positions of goalkeeper, lead central defender, holding centre midfield, and goalscoring striker. Absence of pace in central defensive positions, in particular, a big problem.

5. Over-forcing the play - Gerrard, in particular, is culpable of this. The team could be much better in possession than they have shown recently, if they didn't so often go for the over-ambitious pass or the rushed approach to getting the ball forward. They need to learn to play at a high tempo, but with more composure in how they use the ball in possession.

We deserved that we were c@ap all the way through,
even that win against Slovenia - the smallest nation in it - we should have hammered 'em !

Capello should go, and then try and get someone who does at least speak the language !

We haven't even got the basics right, happens every time, top players at home
who can't step up to a higher level.

The manager, the formation, the methods, a lot of the players, everything needs to change.
We just haven't got it right.

1. England has a smaller football (soccer) population than the major nations bucause it is almost exclusively a working class game.  And the clubs take on English players who are under-educated.  You end up with unsophisticated players, and their play reflects their mentality.   Also the early recruitment discards the late developers.  You get the physically developed.

2. This leads to the second point.  Physicality is admired.  Intelligence is scorned because the players and management are not intelligent.  You end up with long ball, hard tackling game.  Other countries wear you down with an intelligent passing game.  The top clubs realise this and get in foreign managers and players.  Do continental clubs recruit English managers?  The former England manager, McLaren, is one, but I can't think of many.

3. The excessive media coverage leads to over-emphasis on the players.  The are paid too much.  But worse is this cult of the personality (Beckham was good not great) leads to players being kept in the squad well past their use by date.
Did you see how Germany ripped England apart for the third and fourth goals?  As far as I remember the 3rd goal was a break by Schweinsteiger (age 25) who passed to Muleer (age 20), who scored.  The 4th goal was a break by Ozil (age 21) who passed to Mueller (age 20) who scored.  The England back four were missing: Cole (age 29); Terry (age 29); Upson (age 31); Johnson (age 25).  Age waits for no man.  Germany had a squad physical assessment in February 2010.  They would have excluded players who couldn't keep up with play.  England?

4. England are deluded that they are a top footballing nation.  They are not.  They will not progress until they realise that and start working to fix the problems.
They rely on excuses and will not face facts: we went out on penalties / we had a man sent off / the referee didn't give the goal / cheating (hand of God).

I think that is enough to be getting on with.
Usually you are beaten because you are not good enough.

Average age of 10 outfield starting players in Bloemfontein:
Germany 25.4: England 28.5.

Germany subs used: Kiessling (26); Gomez (24); Trochowski (26)
England subs used: Wright-Phillips(28); Cole (28); Heskey (32)

1.John Terry,no pace and been out of form for some time.
2.Frank Lampard,Can't pass the ball over 20 yards.
3.Steven Gerrard ,Out of form all season for his club and country.
4.Gareth Barry,out of his depth,an average club player.
5.Wayne Rooney,poor movement,looked disinterested all tournament.

Picking players based on previous form, rather than current form. No one can tell me that Gerrard had a better season than Milner for instance, same for Bent had a better season than Heskey & Defoe. Ashley Young had a better season than Lennon and SWP, and Huddlestone had a better season than Barry.

We need to bring the youth through now!

One reason not good enough.

Normally when a team pushes up ONE CENTREBACK stays back.When Rio and Terry played together that was ALWAYS put into practice.
Yesterday there appeared to be no understanding whatsoever between Terry and Upson,where was the captain Gerrard to sort them out.Both upfield when one should have stayed back.
Regards giving youth a chance look what they have done to Walcott.Between Capello and Wenger they are doing their best to ruin a bright prospect,and no,I am not a Gooner.

There is a very good example of why English football and English fans absolutely slaughter the team selection.

Paul Scoles being moved to the left wing to accomodate two "Hollywood" players in Gerrard and Lumplard. Hence making him quit.

Easily the best midfielder of his generation he was shunned in front of two players not worthy to lace his boots. It just shows the English mentality.

And guess what, he's still controlling the midfield even at his age now for United.

Kincsem

Average age of 10 outfield starting players in Bloemfontein:
Germany 25.4: England 28.5.



Another good point, and last summer when Germany beat England in the under-21 champioships,
from that Germany side, Neuer, Boateng, Khedira, and Ozil, all started yesterday,
with 3 more on the bench. 

We know are older players are not good enough,
but how many young international players have we got coming through
that can match these German players.

true scholes is a brilliant player, been watching him all season and nearly always just a max of two touches and the ball is then passed accurately and the play advanced, sometimes just one touch

and clearly our top clubs are not producing enough young homegrown talent, look at liverpool under benitez's reign, not one homegrown player during his six years has kept his place, i guess the nearest was warnock, lamentable

same for arsenal tho