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squire danaher
24 Jun 10 22:22
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Opinions please folks

My current book is as follows

Argies/Brazil +228
Argies/Holland +159.60
Brazil/Spain +245.81
Holland/Spain +237.98
All other permutations -60

My thinking at outset was that Holland and Brazil would easily win groups and meet in QF, and I was then prepared to take my chance against weaker opponents in SF .

In the other half of draw I felt the Argies would coast to last 8 along with Spain and was prepared to trade should Arg face Germany in QF.

Clearly the outcome of the Spain group on Friday is now crucial to how this pans out.

My instinct is to let it run and take chance Spain win group.  I have an itch to back Arg/Spain to cover possibility Spain dont win group.

Any thoughts or comments appreciated.
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Report squire danaher June 24, 2010 10:31 PM BST
The person who put up the 34 about Argies/Spain has made my mind up [:D]

Book now stands at

Argies/Brazil +168.15
Argies/Holland +159.60
Argies/Spain +169.10
Brazil/Spain +245.81
Holland/Spain +237.98
All other permutations -60
Report Sceptical Punter June 24, 2010 10:33 PM BST
Back Portugal for the WC. If Spain don't win, Portugal's price will plummet (assuming they don't beat Brazil). They would play Chile and then face the Dutch in the quarters before facing the winners of Uruguay's fairly easy quarter. It is a pretty good cover for your bet whichever way you look at it and is exceptional value anyway. There is only about a 50% chance that they meet Spain.
Report squire danaher June 24, 2010 10:42 PM BST
If Port finish 2nd to Brazil, I make it they play Winner H in 16, then winner of Paraguay/Japan, then one of Ger/Eng/Arg/Mex.

According to both World Soccer and R/Post pullout centre pages.

Dont fancy Portugal but appreciate point you make re: price, cheers m8
Report squire danaher June 24, 2010 10:57 PM BST
£42 up to back Arg/Spain now at 46 Cry
Report kincsem June 24, 2010 11:33 PM BST
I have Netherlands/Germany at 50/1 with PP.  Imo the finalist will be from Netherlands & Brazil V Argentina & Germany & England.
Report jerclarke June 24, 2010 11:52 PM BST
I am on Argentina V Holland at 50's as my main bet, felt more confident with my back up Argentina V England punt.
The quarter finals are the big games for me.
Considering Brazil V Holland as a long shot at around 50/1
Report punkha1 June 25, 2010 12:02 AM BST
If brazil win their group can they then only meet Arg in the final?
Report jerclarke June 25, 2010 12:05 AM BST
yes
Report 1hearts June 25, 2010 1:05 AM BST
squire danaher Joined: 05 Mar 03
Replies: 79 24 Jun 10 22:57   


£42 up to back Arg/Spain now at 46 

Cos it can only happen if Spain fail to win group.
Report squire danaher June 25, 2010 7:43 AM BST
1hearts

see above post at 22:31
Report squire danaher June 28, 2010 11:04 PM BST
TTT

Managed partial trade out of Argies/Spain in running Friday night.

After Spain won Group H the results have gone to plan since, with Argies, Brazil and Holland all winning last 16 ties.

I have had a couple of small trades and book now stands at

Argies/Brazil +208.91
Argies/Holland +162.74
Brazil/Spain +220.45
Holland/Spain +204.06
All other permutations -56.70

Argies/Spain settled

any comments??
Report johnnyrant June 28, 2010 11:11 PM BST
nice book squire but don't under-estimate Uruguay, especially if they have Godin back fit for s/f assuming they get past Ghana.
Report squire danaher June 28, 2010 11:20 PM BST
cheers johnny

I dont underestimate anyone as this is the hardest game in the world.

Worried about Germany but am reassuring myself that - after Spain hopefully beat Portugal - I will have two chances of beating them.

A Spain win 2moro puts me in the ideal position.
Report the lay preacher June 30, 2010 12:13 AM BST
only 2 possible finals remain.

argentina v brazil
        or
argentina v holland.

and there are only 2 possible winners argentina or brazil  this has been my prediction for the last 6 months and i have not seen anything to change my mind.
Report 1hearts June 30, 2010 1:59 AM BST
/\ Spain are a very very good side.  They could well beat Argentina.  Holland look a very ordinary side and I would be very surprised if they beat Brazil.
Report squire danaher June 30, 2010 11:36 PM BST
I worry about Germany having too much organisation/tactical nous for Argies, but then recall how England had them on rack for 10-15 mins, and Ghana created chances against them. The Argies will surely pose serious ?s for that German back 4 with Tevez and Messi buzzin about.

In event of Argies falling to Germany, I have not a bad plan B in Spain Cool

IMO the Holl/Braz winner will have too much for either Uruguay or Ghana.  Holland will welcome the space they will get v Braz as all 4 opponents thus far (with poss exception of Cameroon) have dug in against them and a Brazil win is IMO not a foregone conclusion.
Report slovaks July 1, 2010 2:37 PM BST
Regarding Holland v Brazil, I've bet on the draw and then hedging at some stage in the second half, it's gonna be a long game, they won't break down this dutch defense and they can keep the ball.

But then with Brazil it only takes 4 minutes of dominance to come up with two goals, probably in the second half when legs get tired.
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