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i probably should, but dont often get these free positions, prob take 200 sometime  lol.  Is spain game first / second 2mor?

A bit gutting that Tuthoops, another 10 minutes and you could have backed them at twice the odds.

i still think the argies will win.
then again i thought Brazil would win against the Dutch

indeed, silly really wasnt thinking straight. Chin up though - its ruined my book though. wd so far mate.

Hoping U's get a result tonight and Argies bea Germany. I may then red out at a better price.

gl

Looking good tober. c'mon Spain !

The drift on Ghana doesn't make sense to me so asked for £2@42

£2 Lay Ghana@23

£8 Lay of Uraguay@26

Seems a crazy price in their situation and surely i can back them much higher soon

10 lay of holland 3.5
10 back of urguay 25.0

just cant see them winning cup but dangerous side to oppose should they come through

green up on them whilst i can

Asking £6 Uraguay@38

oh ffs

might as well lay them some more

£10@ 17

this match could really fk things up

Can't get out of this Uraguay position unless it goes to pens

£9.50 Uraguay@18.5 (unmatched)

what do Ghana have to do to get a pen ffs

matched

5 uraguay@60

30p of it matched@100 too

£3 lay Uraguay@19.5

lol nice 1.  was like 40 quid trying to lay  at 400 then. someone came with a few 100 at 200. not sure what really got matched.

-£7.50 on Settled Bets , so bank £271.90

Spain	£218.97
Netherlands	£129.48
Argentina	£89.91
Germany	£42.10
Uraguay	£179.12
Paraguay	£119.70

Could make an Equal Green of about £86 but want to win more.

took a 1r for argentina. :-( at 5.3

spain + 103
neth  + 118
arg   +1793
ger   + 105
uru   + 152
para  + 111

I think you had a better position yesteday.

£10 Argentian@5.3

looking good toby, sir!

ta Schluck

against my better judgement, have taken another 206 @ 5.3 with view to trade it in running. 

spain +314.44
neth  +330.44
arg   +999.74
ger   +316.54
uru   +366.72
par   +322.70

wont mind an early german goal now. :-)

Ballydoyle Joined: 23 Feb 02
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Brazil £75 at 5-1

Argentina £55 at 13-2

Germany £20 at 14-1

Golden Boot :

David Villa £50 e/w at 9-1

Luis Fabiano £25 e/w at 12-1

Miroslav Klose £10 e/w at 33-1

Lukas Podolski £10 e/w at 80-1 

Have since added Forlan £10 e/w at 12-1 and laid £75 Villa @2.4

Bloody Brazil!!!!

Spain +169.08
Argentina +246.83
Urguay +65.47
Holland +59.11
Rest -46.08

still looking good (not as good as this time yday mind you for big money) argentina go through im pretty much garunteed profit

i would like min 100 return from which i deposited last friday, so really hoping argies or spain come good

was large on brazil too my friend

sucks

had little tinkle around this morning

Spain +169.08
Holland +10.42
Argies +343.73
Germany -46.08
Urguay +1.35
Paraguay -46.08

my thinking is urguay wont win the tourney so keep them low green, argies hopefully win lately and can trade bit of them and onto holland and spain

Tobes-couldn't reply last nite on Poppy's thread for sum reason
Things went pretty t!ts up since I last posted but yesterday's results gave me a chance of coming out of it without major damage.
Current situ:

Spain -889
Holland +456
Argentina -902
Germany +25
Uruguay +2886
Paraguay +486

Brazil were also big losers. Could settle for a guarenteed £200-300 loss but don't fancy that-tempted to hang on for the ride on Uruguay as Holland don't look that scary. May reduce Argentina red prior to today's game.
You look in decent enuff shape tho

May have cheeky back either today's sides inrunning on outright if go goal down

oooh  gonna hold on til 1/2 time and see what price the argies r then.  didnt think it would be so early.  haha

Backed argies 8.2 £40

samuraikenny
have 20.00  12.75 holland
     13.00 146.15 uruguay
     16.00 110    paraquay

all betfair + 10.00 100/1 uraquay

         + 8.00  125/1 uraquay both at @bookies@

aint watching the game, doing the cricket, but argies only 9-10.  gonna hold on for maybe another 20 mins.  :-(

Looks like i picked the wrong one of these to back last night

Tempted to back Argentina before  Germany now at the odds.

Changed Mind

Layed Argentina £5 @9.8

think they will drift big if don;'t score quickly

£6 lay of Germany@4.8

can't see them much shorter if they win with Spain likely to come

£6 Germany@5 (unmatched)

£5 Argentina@11.5 (unmatched)

11.5 matched

lay Arg again @10 ( £6)

like £5 on them@12.5

that was bad timing

£3 Argentina@65

£10 Lay of Germany@3.6

£3 Lay  Argentina@46

germany look good outrite on the last two games evidence..who can stop them?

20 on argentina 60.00

neth 310
sp  294
arg 2180
ger 295
uru 345
par 302

£3 Lay Uraguay@12 (unmatched)

:-(  250/1    3 nil germany 

Spain i expect GT

So, Tobermory. After all that backing and laying you may aswell have just backed Spain?!?!?!

Typical had 900 green on argies at half time just one goal would allowed me an excellent trade

mine all down Spain now

That game certainly went badly for me.

Right , just can't have these Germans @3.15 . Seems to me they are great when they have an early goal and can play on the break but struggle if they don't get the lead early .

So £65 Lay @3.15

Also £2 Paraguay@55

Having passed up the oppurtunity yesterday to go all green for £85 i may as well take a chance and get a decent green on 3 of them and fair play to the German backers if they do it.


Settled Bets -£26.95

Max Red: £252.45 which will be + or - these figures at the end....

Germany	£198.20
Netherlands	£208.76
Spain	£298.25
Uraguay	£258.40
Paraguay	£70.06

if i was gonna lay someone it would have been spain now but cant bring myself to lay any1 now.  trying to trade a few quid on uraguay and paraguay.

Germany +34.31
Holland +54.12
Urgauy +107.75
Spain +258.14

tobermory 03 Jul 10 18:38 
If Spain don't beat Paraguay i'm quitting betting.

Not far away.

Toby...GTbookies.com prices based on what he's watched..

Germany 15/8
Spain 2/1
Holland 9/4
Uruguay 11/1

Hi GT, amazingly, given their perfomances and stats, the Germans are still value for the outright imo at 3.25 on here. Given their form, character and history, I think the odds are plain wrong (same as Holland for example who have hardly excelled).

Germany have been sensational slarty..with a real spirit, toughness & resilience and no little flair..they are winning on the bit..spain are needing reminders...dunno if holland are genuine..and uruguay are selling platers

Nicely summed up! Totally agree. I'm all in (well £30, anyway) on Fritz.

Settled Bets: -£22.45

Max Red: £256.95

Spain	£296.83
Germany	£199.70
Netherlands	£207.34
Uraguay	£222.77

Could have gone level green for about £112 but prefer to Max Red on Germany.

Almost all in on Spain@3.15 and £3.25 Uraguay@15 if matched

Spain	£407.12
Germany	£253.70
Netherlands	£156.04
Uraguay	£171.47

Been watching your progress from the start tobermory, and have found it all fascinating.

Am just wondering what the logic is at this point to have Uruguay as your second-biggest winner? They seem very unlikely to rise to the top against Holland, let alone against Holland and Spain or Germany. Good luck, anyway, hope it comes good for you.

Cheers Tom .  I just think they are too big a price @15 or so with only 2 ties to win, and Holland are too short right now .

I should be around for the game and if  Uraguay make it tougher than the market sees it , which i think they can , then i may be able to Lay Uraguay ( who i will be £212 or so green on by then) at much shorter odds, and have 2nd biggest green on Holland after all.

It all rests on the 2nd game really though ( which i can't be here for ) as if Germany win i'll just be hoping for the winner of the first semi to get me out of it with a modest win, while if Spain do it then i will be able to make my bank (originally £279.40) into £500 even from Holland or Uraguay , with a much bigger profit on the Spanish.

why didnt you smash on the germans at 17 before the england game?

I did go Green on them @16.5 the day before, but only by £9 as i thought England would beat them

what a complete waste of time that book is. why didnt u just do this:

Back  Your
Odds  Your
Stake  Your
Profit 
Netherlands  13.05  £600.00  £7,229.90 
Ref: Bet matched:
 
  £600.00

blackjack = aftertiming ****

or this

Back  Your
Odds  Your
Stake  Your
Profit 
Germany  15.5  €2,000.00  €29,000.00 
Ref: Bet matched:
 
Uruguay  20.58  €2,850.00  €55,800.00 
Ref: Bet matched:
 
  €4,850.00   
Lay  Backer's
Odds  Backer's
Stake   Payout
Liability 
Lay  Backer's
Odds  Backer's
Stake   Payout  Liability 
Germany  11.32  €2,500.00  €28,300.00 €25,800.00 
Ref: Bet matched: 
Uruguay  14.96  €3,950.05  €59,108.45 €55,158.40 
Ref: Bet matched: 
  €6,450.05

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Position before Semi Finals

Settled Bets: -£22.45

Spain	£404.03
Germany	£256.95
Netherlands	£152.95
Uraguay	£214.70

Won't be here for the match so put up £10 Lay of Uraguay@7  which might gret matched if they score first.

Unmatched of course

Settled Bets: -£16.20

Netherlands	£147.01
Germany	£263.20
Spain	£398.10

Netherlands	£223.72
Germany	-£110.00
Spain	£303.02

Come on Spain!

Nice work Tobes (and AJS).

I remember about 8 months ago on C.C you suggesting that I drip feed Spain in the months leading up to the tournament.

As it happens, I didn't, but well done to you nonetheless. 

excellent stuff, toby

Muy bien, Tobester.

Well done Tobermory mate. I always had the feeling Spain would get you out of trouble. Nice final for you to enjoy now. Cheers

Cheers Guys 

Start Bank: £279.40

+

Settled Bets: +£58.80

Bank = £338.20

+ these figures

Spain	£326.85
Netherlands	£75.76

Though may balance that out a bit.

try that again

Spain	£326.85
Netherlands	£75.76

£91.50 Lay of Spain@1.62

£2 Holland@2.62

£338.20

+

Spain	£271.05
Netherlands	£165.77

Which guarantees overall profit of......

£222.63	Holland
£330.85	Spain

£279.40 start bank so will acheive the initial aim of turning that to £500 if  Holland win , but £600 if Spain do it.

Anyone having any problems with their WC outright market? Before the game tonight my market showed what I posted above, -£110 on Germany, £303.02 on Spain and £223.72 on Holland.

As Germany have gone out tonight, that means I should have my £110 returned to my account, doesn't it? Or added to the profit on each team (like happened when my other antepost selections; Portugal and Uruguay went out).

I've had no money added to my available to bet balance, and the profit on both teams is still the same.

Any ideas?

It depends what you backed and layed Germany for

I think i had about £58 of back bets on them and layed them for about £135 so my account went up by £77 or so when it was settled.

That amount was then taken off the greens i had on Spain and Holland.

I don't understand how neither your  Account Statement or your figures on the other 2 stayed the altered.

I had no back or lay bets on Germany at all.

My antepost bets were: £80 Spain, £30 Holland, £10 Portugal, £4 Uruguay. I haven't changed anything since, no laying at all.

When Portugal and Uruguay went out, the profit on Spain and Holland was altered. Now Germany have gone, absolutely nothing has changed. My available to bet balance is exactly the same as it was before the Spain/Germany match, as is my profit on both Spain and Holland.

I have no idea how or why this has happened either.

Your total available should go up by £110 then

Maybe you need to click f5

I know it should, but it hasn't, and no amount of F5ing has changed that. This is my problem...

Not until after the final it won't.
All's well that ends well tober, nice one.

Good work tobes.

Sorry to be vague AJ. But that £110 is actually still your stake, if you see what I mean. It will be returned to you after the final, even though it has disappeared from your liabilities.
Angie I see your big brother threads are keeping forumites well informed and up to date. Hope you make loads.
ttfn.

Well done on our book Toby  [;)] ..you were correct 'bout Spain..Germany had a great tournament but ultimately fell short

Spain +272.12
Holland +112.83

keeping it as that i feel

cheers GT

Yeah Dave that makes sense, Spain possibly a bit short now , but they are the better team and i didn't want to go Level green either.

Also it makes the game more watchable

Start Bank: £279.40

End: £606.31

Profit: £326.91

Well done Tobermory. A great thread . Nicely turned around from halfway. Top man, Cheers