Netherlands Looked v Good Tonight Again

let's hope they don't fall out as usual when it kicks off or has it already started??....Van P reckon's they should play Robben,Van D V,Sneijder and himself without Kuyt i believe

As always they look to have a stack of talent.

If they pull it together I see them as a massive chance with a reasonably soft draw. Price at the moment looks some value for mine, I think they are a chance to face England in a Semi.

massive chance i agree with you and they are value IF you really think they can beat brazil.. obv their price will contract  on getting to the quarters but by how much do you think?

thats why they are that much bigger than us imo just based on the brazil factor alone

Happy to lay Brazil, any minor slip-up with the draw they have and it's goodnight nurse.

They as always are a good side but I'm not sure this is one of the better sides they have fielded over the years.

I think they Dutch can win a couple of their group matches in style which will hopefully see a wave of support.

Fairly soft game in the last 16 on the cards and they should be hitting that 1/4 final in big form which will see them in a position to trade out from.

why do you think england are so short then.. if holland beat brazil both them and england will be joint and short enough 2nd favs behind spain if they are thru by then imo

England have a very kind draw if they win their group - runners up in German group followed by winners of France group (IMO FWIW Germany then Uruguay though most would say Serbia then France)

By this time Dutch will have already taken on one of tournament favs - that said could see Brazil struggling against the Dutch midfield

I have backed Brazil to win their tough group at 1.65 with a view to let the Holland bet ride through a game against Portugal/Ivory Coast then England (if they make it that far) and lay vast majority off before the final against Spain - fairly easy this gambling lark really

Dutch have to be the value bet - certainly cf England.

Not beyond the realms of possibility that Spain play Brazil in the 1/4s - with the Dutch playing the winners in the semi - and hopefully gaining revenge for 1978 by beating the Argies in the final

Have gone on a bit of a frenzy whilst working form home today but I have just placed what I believe to be the best value bet available today - with sjames

Netherlands 8/13 and Argentina 8/15 to win their groups - Double pays just about 6/4 which has to be value IMO

now is not the time to look good, quarters, semis and final is the time to look good.

Agreed but their passing is very fluid and natural, they weren't putting in 100% but it looked very good - admittedly handsome is as handsome does and they will struggle to keep clean sheets - makes winning 4 knockout games very tricky