I think Germany are a massive Price!!

Deutschland uberalles
Up ze Vaterland
Nice & battlehardened after that group, see off the little cousins ingerlund in the 2nd round, will get to the final imo

I agree Germany are big, Loew needs to unleash Stefan Kie

btw, if anyone knows where i can back Stefan Kie

Darkco 04 Dec 20:18

they only need gomez or someone to start banging in the goals for them and there a great price at 14/1

Mankind will land on Mars first!

Ozil could well be the star of the tournament - defence is better than last tournament

luder simply request a price from one of the online companies & they would offer a price. powers is usually the best for that

I aggree masvie price because the only team talk the coach has to do is say we are playing for the goal keeper that killed himself and that's all hw will have to say it will be powerfull enough they will be ready to run through brick walls even more that normal

have done ray, 80's.

very good point EYE..

never write off the germans

Darkco 04 Dec 19:18

they only need gomez or someone to start banging in the goals for them and there a great price at 14/1


OMG did you watch Euro 2008 the guy is awful!!

Group not over-rated IMO. Could see them not getting out of it quite easily. Serbia are a better side and although Aussies and Ghana are not as good as the Germans they both have some very dangerous players that can turn a game from nowhere. Would not want to be getting heavily involved in this Group.

Group not over-rated IMO. Could see them not getting out of it quite easily. Serbia are a better side and although Aussies and Ghana are not as good as the Germans they both have some very dangerous players that can turn a game from nowhere. Would not want to be getting heavily involved in this Group.

Apologies for the double post. Don't take that to mean I am twice as sure of my opinions as other posters!

only chance germany have is if they ditch jogi, plus ballack, klose etc and let hrusbech work his magic with the u23s.

might have a wee dab at italy for starters

it really doesnt matter how moderate the german players are, the one thing you know for sure is they will OVER achieve as they always do. they never ever look any good yet always creep thru to the later stages, and of course the winning penalty shoot outs is ground into them.they will be functional at best but probly survive longer than teams with far better groups of players.fkn krauts.

they always used to. you can't get by on efficiency alone these days. they had a good world cup with home advantage. did well in the euros but only beat turkey (fortuitously) and an overrated portugal side, managed by the tactical diddy that is scolari. had the easiest run ever in 2002. flopped in 2000 and 2004. not an overly impressive decade.

they have some outstanding young players (ozil, kiessling, rolfes) but if loew goes with the likes of ballack, klose, frings and hitzelsperger as first choice, they'll do well to get out the group.

i think Australia will beat Germany first up, Australia is a strong team and has been better since the last time they played germany and lost 3-4 to them

i expect Germany to underestimate Aussies again, and the key for the Aussies to me, is this core of team have played together for about 5-6 years now.

Mark my words i have seen the odds at my local bookie early in this game

Ger 1.55, Draw 3.55, Aus 6.50

ger is a lay for me at that price

Who have Austrlalia replaced Viduka with? Scott McDonald?

Germany are a big price. they are always there
i like germany and brazil, they are both due to win it, i do slightly prefer brazil as they will like conditions, Germans are a big price though.


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