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Rowan86
28 Dec 15 19:40
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TUP R1

Layed 1 at 4.6.

Not enough early pace for me.
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Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
I'm not sure if they're showing it. Sorry.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
At the races showing us racing including Fairgrounds
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
why dont betfair do fairgrounds ?!
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
cricfree stream not working for at the races
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 8:49 PM GMT
FG
watching #9 Una Mac Cool
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 8:50 PM GMT
The 2 horse at turf race 4 looks the stand out bet
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 8:54 PM GMT
TUP R4

2 to finish in top 3 at 1.16. Will take a lot to displace this.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
the 7 looks the class horse race 4 sunland but would you back it at even money on only a 2f race
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
tp
all over #1 Worthy Grapes @ 11.0
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:02 PM GMT
SUN R4

4 at 9.0. Seems overpriced on the basis of its win last time out.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
eun
gone with #4      Major Bites @ 12.0
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
what won
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:05 PM GMT
Sad 4th
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:05 PM GMT
#1 won sun
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:07 PM GMT
Sad My Name's Mud
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:08 PM GMT
my names mud will win better races than that in the future for sure
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:08 PM GMT
Well done with the 2 at TUP Slip. Hacked up.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:10 PM GMT
1m race coming up at sunland which is better
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
Yeah, glad it's a longer distance.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
mahong valley another track which betfair don't cover
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:22 PM GMT
5 is the win bet race 5 sunland
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:23 PM GMT
SUN R5

1 at 6.0.
7 8.0.

I've got a strong feeling that 5 has deteriorated since its barn change.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:25 PM GMT
The 1 is win bet race 5 turf para, a massive drop in class for this horse and added plus its got veteran jockey scott stevens doing the sterring today
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:27 PM GMT
sun
trying #3 Armensky
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
TUP R5

3 at 11.5. Could improve stepping up in trip.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:31 PM GMT
im sure #3 won
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:32 PM GMT
roman won Surprised
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:32 PM GMT
but they say #4 ?!
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:32 PM GMT
thought i was good at head bobbers, eye sight must be going
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:33 PM GMT
yeah they say 4 the mexican stewards can do what they like
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:33 PM GMT
Sad
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 9:34 PM GMT
what happen to old dusty that was a shocking run
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:35 PM GMT
tp
betting #7 I'm a Bully Too
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:38 PM GMT
Sad
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:46 PM GMT
SUN R6

1 at 3.5. Should improve second time out.
7 at 18.0. Good 5f workout frequency. If this has any pace it could go wire to wire in an otherwise paceless field.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
SUN R6

Layed 6 at 4.1. Class dropper, but think it's dropping in class because it's poor.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:54 PM GMT
sun
betting e/w #7 Proud of Maria
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 9:56 PM GMT
BBBOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:56 PM GMT
TUP

2 at 10.0.

4 at 9.0.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
Enjoyable that wasn't it BSmith? :D
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:00 PM GMT
tp
betting e/w #9 Tiu
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:01 PM GMT
yep Grin
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
you only need one big price horse to come in a night to make it work, if you get two or more happy days Happy
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
I've been denied big wins twice, once by half a length and another time by a head, so I feel like justice has been served.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
Tonight I mean.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:06 PM GMT
yep, me too
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:09 PM GMT
We've had a similar night then.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
if you wait long enough the big price horses come in, ive had one losing day in two months, and the other days made up for that ....... cant be afraid to go for the 20/1 - 50/1 shots
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
^ they dont all come in, but like i said you only need one a night Happy
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
and to add lol ....... you need to know when to STOP !
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
SUN

I backed 1 at 8.0. Shame the price isn't there anymore. It's done well over in Sunland Park sprints. Barn change may well be a positive.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
Well, if you've got the edge, you don't need to know when to stop. You may as well keep betting.

The number of winners you require is relative to the odds at which you bet, assuming level stakes (I would never advocate betting at level stakes, but I'm simplifying things).
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
sun
try e/w #3 Ruby Red Ryder
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
SUN R7

8.4 available for the 1 again. Win at Zia Park over the distance last time out was encouraging.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
TUP R7

9 at 4.0. Think  the market is massively underestimating the 9's potential improvement on return to the dirt.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
wouldnt say an edge, more lucky sometimes ...... its recing Tongue Out
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
To be fair, if you don't think you've got the edge, you shouldn't be betting.

There's a lot of variability in any sport, but some people are skilled at gauging value.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
It's about gauging the probability of a horse winning and exploiting value accordingly.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
tp
betting #5 Short Memo@ 7.0
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:27 PM GMT
Like with the bet you've just made, if the probability of 5 winning is greater than 1 in 7, then it's good value, otherwise it's not good value. That's ignoring the commission charge.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
2nd
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:34 PM GMT
Maybe you made a good bet. The question is, what should the true price have been? Should it have been 7.0? Was the probability of it winning greater than 1 in 7? Maybe it was. I'm not sure.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
ive been going ok lately
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
i just read the form of all the horses in a race, if i like one or if one stands out for me, i look at a number of factors and then the price last, if im happy with them all i'll have a bet
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
BBBBBBOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
If you're reading form and gauging prices, you're probably being logical.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
Well done at Sunland Park!
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
take tonight, ive might of had 10 bets ( im not counting ) ive just had a 13/1 and earlier a 18/1 . Most poeple watching would think im losing tonight
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
ty
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
SUN R8

3 at 1.8.

What price do you think the 3 should be? I think it's more like a 1.6 shot. I'm worried about the effect of the barn change, but it's performance in a 165k stakes race last time out makes this a great bet at 1.8 in my book.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
I think you got fantastic value on the 18/1 shot. That was well overpriced.

Personally I thought the 3 was around the right price at 13/1, but perhaps you saw something I didn't.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
TUP R8

9 at 5.5. Has the pace advantage and should improve second time back off a long layoff. Don't think the distance suits the 8.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
for me , 1.8 would be the lowest id bet on a horse if i really liked it, poeple bet lower but for me there are too many factors that could go wrong.
In this race id value it at evens , but id be looking to see what price #7 or #4 would be nearer the off and make a judgement then
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
^ i am liking #7 though lol
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:55 PM GMT
tp
trying #9 Under Cover Queen @ 6.8+
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:55 PM GMT
Okay, interesting. I'm intrigued by this race.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
Very good recent workout for the 7 at SUN.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 10:58 PM GMT
Sun
betting #7 Clone
s bet #4 Tap the Admiral
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
Fantastic bet on the 7! Well done.
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
7,4 at Sun Grin
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 11:01 PM GMT
Sad 2nd at tp
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:10 PM GMT
SUN

10 at 2.28.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
Strong fav at sunland you think rowan
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:15 PM GMT
This field looks pretty weak, and judging by the 10's narrow defeats at Zia Park last two times out, I think it's overpriced at 2.3. You never know how it might take to the slop, but that's the only problem IMO.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:17 PM GMT
I'm surprised how the price has drifted.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
on course no drift only exchange
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
would you go back in at 3.05 odds
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
That's encouraging.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:20 PM GMT
Yes, I have. I backed it again at 3.2 as well.
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 11:21 PM GMT
Don't really take much notice of the course bookies either over in usa, you get favs smashed from even money into 1/5 shots and they still get beat
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 11:22 PM GMT
sun
trying me luck on #9 Big Blaze
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
I'm the same. I don't take too much notice either.
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
Get in!
Report Bsmith December 28, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
wd guys
gn + gl
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
it won nice odds Laugh
Report slip5 December 28, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
bye guys
Report Rowan86 December 28, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
Cheers BSmith.

haha I still don't understand how they made it a 2/1 + shot!!
Report tobahar January 30, 2017 6:06 PM GMT
Parx race3 #3 #4 GL
Report tobahar January 30, 2017 6:31 PM GMT
Parx race4 #5 @ 4.8+ GL saver #1
Report tobahar January 30, 2017 6:55 PM GMT
Louisiana race1 #5 #4 GL
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