U.S. Horse Racing
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Betfair has definitely become a third rate site now.....
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Has there been ANY explanation for this ludicrous phenomenon yet?
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Mountaineer 4MTP on the video....
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it not good very bad
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Response from Betfair:
"Hi ******** Thanks for getting in touch. I am sorry to learn that you are unhappy with the management of US racing. I have been in touch with the team that manages these ,markets and they have informed me that after investigating your claims, and they do appreciate your experience with the markets, that they are happy with the management of these markets and do not see any cause to change their existing practices at this moment in time. Let me know if there’s anything else I can help with. Or maybe our FAQs will come in handy? We love to tweet too; find us @BetfairHelpdesk. Thanks," |
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well that's the problem then
... they do not see any cause to change their existing practices ... BUT THEY DID CHANGE THEIR PRACTICES RECENTLY ! the market close was never so far away from the jump before so their answer should have been we do not see any cause to go back to the way that practices always were before THEY changed and did not advise they were going to change or for what reason so can we be sure that the "managers of these markets" are not recently just simply using the loyal bf bets to offset these against other markets out there to their financial advantage if so, then punter vs punter is no longer the practice on these markets why does a market need "managing" ? someone places a bet, someone takes the opposing side, that takes care of itself all management should be doing is - ensure the market is fully closed when the field is despatched (and as close to jump time as possible) |
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from harsh to much appreciated
hi guys ... finger lakes R6 market stayed open & strong right to the jump ... after the number 6 horse fully loaded credit where its due ... well done ... a good market |
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a horse broke through at Del 6 when all loaded ... but the markets were open till all horses WERE loaded ... another good market cheers
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another breaks through at Del 7 when all loaded .. 2 in a row .. what odds ?
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I wish every race a horse breaks through the gate, would serve there stupidness right.
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sorry Razor I'm not trying to annoy you .. but your last comment doesn't make any sense
when a horse breaks thru and disrupts the start of a race quite often they unload every horse and the jump is then 5 mins after the post starting time once a BF market is closed they do not re-open it I just had a look at LAD R2 and 6 of the 7 runners had loaded with the market still open (the horse playing up behind the stalss - a 1st starter was rearing etc and eased late - but went on to win the race) so maybe the early close is still happening but at certain tracks - but LAD jumped after scheduled post time but they bet the markets with 6 of the 7 runners in the stalls the video on BF is the same as ESPN as I thought we might be getting a slower feed but the sync is the same and all race videos are in the transmission delay zone of 2 to 5 seconds (6 seconds in a race is about a half furlong) so they close early some times as the race is imminent in real time I think they are getting better and on the LAD race this morning i stick with that but I agree with you it was awful for the past month |
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Presque5 race still betting with 5 of the 6 runners in the stalls
hopefully this good stuff is back to stay and the past month was just an abherration |
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Yes they do re-open races but don't bother most of the time as they obviously do not care.
Yes the suspending early since the third week of May has been and continues to be very poor service and detrimental to the US racing markets on the exchange. Carry on. |
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Ya right they continues to close races at there leisure. Anyway can see it. Why should they close a race early.
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please update your opinions in line with the trend of the past 3 days guys
detrimental to the US markets is continuing to represent last months behaviour with the current (at least the past 3 days) situation please review again guys and comment on the current situation imo the complaints have been heeded lets hope it continues for all our sakes |
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My updated opinion based on the last 9 hours of racing is 90% of the races are being suspended too early to the detriment of all involved.
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which is slightly better than the 95% being suspended too early for the last two months.
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Why is Parx race #3 closed minutes early?
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I agree 90% of races atleast are closed way to early
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Why dont understand is why do have to be micky mouse and close the races early at all, why not at the off?
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Finger lakes race 3, how does that look, want to get out of my position i cant race closed 1 minute before
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And im betting big money which i am slowly stopping and i will tell other punters to stop also if this continues "Thebas"
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another great morning anfd I've watched 12 races and punted on them all with an open market
they are closing when a field of 7 has 6 loaded ... the most recent at EMD a perfect example .. the 4 horse playing up behind the stalls and market is still open I didn't have a bet in FL3 so I take your word on it razor and I'm sorry to hear that maybe I am just lucky .. and I certainly myself wouldn't be telling anyone to ... stop or start .. gambling .. each to their own you are asking a bit too much to 'get out' of positions so late in the close period imo .. someone has to hold the opposing bet to you .. maybe they are also trying to get out of their positions when you are happy with your bet .. swings and slides you can try and good fortunes with it ... |
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yes we're asking too much to manage the markets as they had been managed for the past 15 years.
maybe everyone else complaining about it as most recent threads are complaining about early suspensions are just from the unlucky????? |
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the past month .. finally we agree on something newguy
can you make a personal statement of fact about the past 4 days where it has ... improved .. IMHO |
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for example
the current race Evd 1 .. 6 runners ... all loaded market stayed open ? |
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Recently as in the entire Parx card was closed early today?
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I was involved in PRX 5 but put my bets on last night (I operate out of Oz so I get up at 5.30am here) which had me just looking at PRX 7 live - I didn't play that race
I take your word for it .. you and I know Parx are a law unto themselves and often run whole races one whole behind schedule for whatever reason ... I would feel sorry for anyone trying to mage that market off the video I'm on board when EMD, LAD, PEN and CT kick off and I am able to manage my bets on those tracks I will leave you guys to your personal misery then .. it ticked me off that not only are you stating a situation .. that you are trying to get a gorund swell of people to stop their investments in the US the markets are still very liquid .. the ones I punt in .. so you have not affected my plays I will leave you to your own plays .. whether you can get your bets covered or not are you trading I wonder .. and laying/backing multiple horses in the race ... and trying to get the best of everything ... or are you taking a set position on a horse based on your study of the race ? |