Friday US

money is down on this 6 which is a plus

I don't trust the 6 to wire the field, and think if the 4 can stay within striking distance, it can nail it on the stretch. Ahh, it's dropped below 3.0 now. I might pass.

I've decided they're both value.

Bakced 4 at 2.8, and 6 at 3.4.

Turns out the 3 had pace. :(

Sorry for my poor tipping. When you've got a paceless field like that, a donkey can end up winning. I'll be back for race 2. I'll try and make amends!

no worries mate it a opinions game really nothing is a cert in horse racing

Risky. Hopefully when I see the advert on SSN, that'll make more sense! haha

ten crowns short price fav for its first run

Poor first-time win stats for that LAD horse

for the horse's sire, I mean

4 loos decent bet race 2 penn

looks

PEN R2

6 at 9.0. Backing this to improve second time back off the layoff.

Slip. The 4 has some good back-form but it's disappointing performance last time out means I can pass on it at sub 4.0. There's a chance it could have things easy if it gets a soft early lead with its pace, but 6 and 8 should be able to match it for pace.

the 6 is front running

LAD R6

4 at 9.0. Think this can cope with the step up in class.

the 4 looks danger

4 is easy winner

blinkers done the job

Hope I didn't deter you from backing the 4. It was just very disappointing last time out.

no I back it

going for the 9 at lad race 6 been in decent form this horse I expect it to pounce late

4 is tracking pace

hector really gave the 9 to much to do

Nicely done Rowan!!

good winner rowan

I know you had already upgraded it to a good night, but are you going to upgrade it again now!? 

rowan you must be high as a kite backing these outsiders winners

I think he's getting almost used to it now, Slip!

evang race 1 this 5 looks a terrific bet I expect jockey to make all no other tactics needed

hahahaah yes, I think I need to upgrade the quality of this night. Thanks Slip / Honky.

Honky. I'm so sorry. I forgot it was you! Nice to see you on here tonight. Will you be on much longer do you think>?

I'll have a small go on this 1 to place.  Only really doing very casual bets at this stage!

5 in trouble already

5 was out paced  was never going to win

Real crapshoot those races. So many of the horses can improve in a flash.

that was a 1st time starter that 8 it won with a lot in hand

I'd looked at the 1st time starters and decided none of them were quite good enough. But that one found a little extra that wasn't there on paper.  Still, got the place, so I'm content.....

got a 2/5 shot at penn this 7 horse

think we can get this 7 beat at penn, 2 and 8 win bets for me

I'm such a cheapskate. My DRF subscription ran out on Tuesday night, but you can download in advance the cards and Formulator files for the next three or four days, and you can then draw out your subscription for a few more days!!    But the friday Penn cards weren't available then, so I don't have anything at all for Penn!!     Looks like I'm relying on you guys!!

someone put the mortgage on this 7 horse at penn race track it now a 1/9 shot

PEN R3

If 7 is fit it will be tough to beat,but I do not have faith in its fitness.

5 at 13.5. on the class drop looks like it could have some value.

I'll do my best Honky!

3 given easy lead

Guess he was fit!

LAD R7

2 at 34.0.

6 at 13.5.

Going for the two newcomers.

Hearing 'Little Orphan Annie' just put me in mind of an episode of Peter Kay's Car Share.  I'm not really taking this seriously enough!!

Yep! Guess he was fit. Still couldn't justify the price though.

5 given easy lead looks a jockeys race

Geez Rowan. you were almost brilliant there!! 

pathetic effort from jockey on the 6

never wanted to pass that fav did he

He was getting a taste for it in the last few paces!!

stewards

Ooh. Might be a chance here....

EVD

6 at 11.50. Think this might suit the cut-back in trip.

still hope rowan

He does actually force him over several times. And it was very close......

COME OOOOOOON ! Pleeeeaaasseeee

Forum's behind you.....

I'm liking your optimism Honky!

jockey on the 6 was not very animated on the 6 at the ending of that race maybe he knows there was major interference

Oh rats!!

no change

Damn. I really thought I was in with a chance there!

I think the US stewards have got a lot less tough of late.   Would also be interesting to see if the winner had kept it had he been the 13/1 shot denying the 1/5 fave...

I liked your thinking Slip! That gave me hope. Thanks for the support. So close. Still think it's debatable whether it should have stood. Definite interference. Just depends how serious you deem it.

The horse was definitely intimidated and put off his stride slightly by the fave. In my opinion, that could well have cost the 6 the victory. That would
definitely have been taken down in France!!

Yes! Very good point Honky. Interesting also how you think the US stewards have softened lately. I have always detected distinct inconsistency in decisions.

Well yes there is inconsistency. Our stewards are the only ones **** consistent - here a horse can jump on the backs of the field and use them as a xylophone for four furlongs, and it'll still be no more than a 50/50 as to whether the horse gets chucked out..

They did used to throw out horses for any sort of interference in the US, though.

I'm glad you agree the decision was very dubious. I mean, to be honest, if that's not a disqualification, why not do stuff like that deliberately? If you're in a battle on the stretch and you think you're going to lose, just interfere with your rival like that and give yourself a better chance! haha

I missed the CT race while all that was going on. (Not that it made any difference. I liked the 6 but he was unbackable at the price.)

How come BF aren't carrying the CT feed?

uk racing they never get thrown out cause most bookies offer 1st past the post

they would have to pay out twice

They use the whip in such extreme ways in the US. And yet the one thing the whip is really supposed to be used for - stopping your horse from veering into a rival's path like that - is apparently an irrelevance.  Stupid really.

PEN

4 at 9.6. I really think this it fit on return from a long layoff. Won't be surprised if it's an absolute donk, but at 9.6, I'm prepared to take the chance.

Slip, UK bookies don't have to do that. They'd change their rules very quickly if stewards started throwing out more winners.

Backed 4 again at 11.0.

4 going to come late

Not sure why betfair aren't doing the CT feed. Disappointed about that.

That's interesting about the sole purpose of the whip. I didn't know that. Amazing how differently it's actually used.

That made me laugh the xylophone comment you made. That's probably true actually. The inconsistency is crazy.

CT  R2

2 at 2.7. Think the draw makes it favourite.

EVD

4 at 10.0+

Evening all.
Another fine result @ Penn.
1st 2 in the betting finish 1-2.
Nothing changes - thankfully

Wow. That's quite a longshot at CT!

Well done Rothman! That's awesome.

572 at CT

That's the finishing order, by the way. Not the odds of the winner!!   (Even Rowan couldn't catch a 572/1 shot!!)

hahaha what odds was it?

15/1 or something.  Not bad in a race dominated by two shorties. (I guess if the shorties had lost, the winner was likely to be priced up at something like that, but...)

PEN

2 at 5.0+. Should suit cutback in trip and return to dirt.

6 at 5.0+. Don't know what was wrong with it last time out, but think it will be ready today.

EVD

2 at 15.0. Big bet.

The 7 at EVD is 1/2, which seems a little short. The horse is very good at 6f, but 5.5f might just be a tiny bit too short for him.

The 2's a good shout at the odds. 18% FTS win rate, and good jock.   I quite like the 6 as well, at a big price.

Mind you, at 2.04, I might just try and lay the fave...

I think evens is about the right price for the 7. Distance could be a slight issue. I definitely think it's a worthy favourite on Beyer ratings, but in terms of actually winning races, it's not convincing enough.

Looks like you were right Rowan.

PEN

5 at 9.6.

4 might hack up but class drop looks dodgy. I'd rather back dodgy class dropper 5 at 9.6.

It wasn't convincing enough for me at 2.04 on paper.

I think you were right that evens was about right for it.

4 wins comfortably.

Okay, I think I'm off to look through the EMD card.  Good luck Rowan.

Ahh, I might see you at EMD!