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By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 20:43
yes the timeframes are the killer when betting outside your country .. which is why the US suits me better

I can get up at 5am and punt the US through till about 10am-11am (shower & brekky in between lol) ... then have a 2-3 hour break and be back for the locals Grin
By:
stewarty b
When: 12 Oct 15 20:47
we have the major spring carnival in play right now so our Saturday racing will be top notch the next 4 - 6 weeks



Thanks for that info Thebas. Will get some sleeping pills and keep a beady eye out!! lol
By:
stewarty b
When: 12 Oct 15 20:47
PS Good luck for the rest of the day.
By:
Bsmith
When: 12 Oct 15 20:49
Del
watching #2      My Guardian Angel
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 20:56
all the best Stew & good fortunes
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:08
new mexico is a dangerous place lol .. and so is the racing at Zia .. the #3 is well over the odds here compared to the local tote .. someone know something is the question ?
By:
Bsmith
When: 12 Oct 15 21:13
Bel
betting e/w #12 Majestic Bloom @ 18.0
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:13
ZIA5    3-5-4

bang ...  great run bold ride ... sweet odds

they bet anything between $6 & $7 on here at BF ... 3/1 on the local tote 2nd fave

love the US  Wink
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:14
any tips
By:
Bsmith
When: 12 Oct 15 21:16
3rd
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:19
Lust for Diamonds and Call Daddy both done me tonight so far
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:19
hard to tip in the USA WiswW .. the faves are all under pressure as the rest of the field ride against them .. the shorties have a tough ask .. BUT

having said that .. I like the 2nd fave in the next at Woodbine #7 .. but hard to take it under $3 will have to wait & see .. maybe yes maybe no still 5 mins to go (next few mins will decide with the odds)
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:21
3 mins to go .. no interest by punters this race up near Canada lol .. still a good watch I reckon Grin
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:25
#7 firmed late WO .. someone got on in the $2.95+ range ... but not me

fresh after 44 days but work has been great .. watching only
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:25
layed Conquest Strate Up at the 21:26 Woodbine
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:30
WO   1-7-2-6

top lay WiseW ..

the #7 worked just off them out wide .. drove hard at the turn and hit the front with a half to go .. but collared by the #1 the final stages ... a bit fresh and the lack of racing told late .. and the odds a bit skinny ... good effort tho
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:33
the #1 was very big odds and no money came for him
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:37
yes none at all .. was a last start winner but switching back from the artificial to the turf surface scared off a few

had big run 3 starts back "on the turf" in a $250kStakes and this was a $150kStks .. so was in it on paper .

.. a lot easier AFTER the race lol Grin
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:38
haha definitely alot easier after the race! so where we off next?
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:42
DEL 8 next  .. a 2yo race but a high$ alw

the #2 is fairly strong late on its last 2 starts ... and has the form .. the money is OFF it and onto the #1 who is dropping back from a close placing in a $77Stks race

#2 is the value but why the drift ?
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:42
layed Gala's Bank at the 21:45 Delaware Park
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 21:55
DEL8    1-8-2-4

nice lay again WiseW .. the #8 well back in the field and no hope really a win but finished off strong to nab a distant 2nd

smart money on the #1 .. the #2 a huge drift and hung on for 3rd

the scooted the first 1/4 in 21 something .. fairly flying and the winner was setting the pace ... the owners will have fun with that filly
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 21:57
easy does it. alot of money came for #1, it seemed confident. time for one more?
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 22:07
small lay of Chubby Charlie at the 22:15 Delaware Park
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:09
little between the #1 and the #4 next at DEL 6f

both ridden by 5lb claiming apprentices with the #4's jock having the best record in the whole race

the senior jock to thwart them is on the #3 and it will be the pace type but it doesn't finish off strong but won its last start in a slow race

the #9 has the girl Campbell aboard and is a big finisher .. but she will have to negotiate a path

very tricky .. maybe the #4 for me but you'd want some odds .. not just the $4 range imo

dunno lol
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:10
all the best WiseW ... just saw your lay ... tough race
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:14
DEL8 was looking for 6/1 plus the #4 .. they're not gonna bet that .. watch race for me .. good fortunes all
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:15
DEL9 of course lol
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:23
DEL9   9-8-5-4

nice lay again WiseW

Janelle (looking great in the jodphurs) and her her horse too strong late there .. the #3 & #4 showed no interest early going back last and second last lol .. with the short priced fave not a winning chance at any point

good work to the winners (and the watchers Wink) of that race
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 22:24
what a beaut. where to next captain?
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:26
well they're mostly maidens coming up now .. and ive not got another to look at till Zia 11 (in my fave New Mexico lol my winner today) where I'm scouting up a first upper #7

7.30am here so a shower & some brekky for me

... good fortunes WiseW ... you've got there's so a great run Happy
By:
pulpaden
When: 12 Oct 15 22:28
9.57 Woodbine - The 1A received an unfair start and the stewards declared it a scratch runner Even though the other coupled horse finished 4th it was also declared a non runner and betfair also treated both as non runners and refunded bets on both. I thought betfair ignored coupled runners for betting purposes ?
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 22:32
layed Irish Indian at the 22:31 Zia
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 22:34
pulpdan, I know which race you mean. I was thinking of laying 1 of those horses but decided to skip betting on that race. I think Thebas will be able to answer your question
By:
wisewords
When: 12 Oct 15 22:36
pulpaden*
By:
pulpaden
When: 12 Oct 15 22:39
Strange, i've been betting on US racing for ten years now and i've never come across something like this before.
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:50
interesting scenario Pulp ... (it almost sounds like "fiction" how that all panned out)

who knows how BF handle things and there is nothing in their rules page I can find

and yes they are COUPLED in the States not independent runners like on BF where BF have already stated that the "NUMBERS DONT MEAN ANYTHING" and everything betting wise on BF is handled by the horse's NAME only

but how it is handled in the USA is as follows

if one of the stablemates is considered a non-starter then the linked horse is deemed to have run for "purse money" only and all punting bets are refunded on ... both horses

its worth sending an email Pulp but in the past you'll find that its "no correspondence will be entered into" in relation to once a BF market is settled

good luck
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 22:53
Pulp ... here's the Equibase race result page that explains what happened in the USA

https://www.equibase.com/premium/chartEmb.cfm?track=WO&raceDate=10/12/15&cy=CAN&rn=9

what BF do is beyond my understanding though ... I thought it was name only for betting on the US (ie stablemates do NOT exist)

in the US the non-scratched stablemate was given an official placing ...  of 4th in the race ... and received that 4th place prizemoney
By:
slip5
When: 12 Oct 15 23:13
woodbine and belmont park have to be the worse tracks for favs winning
By:
Thebas
When: 12 Oct 15 23:56
R11 coming up at Zia in about 6 mins and a stinko affair for sure (sometimes that's good sometimes not lol)

the on course market has the #11 the money horse .. and BF has the #11 clear on its own

its a shipper coming in .. has raced in much better grade at Santa Anita before then changed stables aand the new trainer gave it two (dead?) runs back in August where you couldn't get enthused at all about its performances .. now freshened and with no public works who knows .. the market (dunno) .. the players (dunno)

so its a back or its a lay .. make up your own mind lol

I was looking around it at the #7 earlier on but there's no confidence in it on the market at all

has had a nice enough work here at the track though and is a bit quick with a most unfortunate habit of weakening late in a race LOL

5f was probably better suited as the 5½ here can see them swamped late ... but fresh is its only chance I guess of holding interest to the wire

I thought 8/1 plus was fair and its opened up well short of that .. so no opinion me .. yet I suppose

good fortunes to all in a very tricky sprint race coming up at grand ol Zia
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