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nite1965
03 Nov 13 20:19
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With 5-7 tracks running at the same time we often see 10-15 races going off within an hour. Many of these races not even reaching £1K liquidity. Anyone agree on less tracks would give us better liquidity and better betting markets? Why can't Betfair see this? I even think that this solution will increase interest for US horse racing, since liquidity is higher and long term BF will make more money.

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By:
rink rat
When: 04 Nov 13 18:00
They probably make more on totes that are played here when liquidity on these tracks is low . Don't expect a change.
By:
FrankRA
When: 05 Nov 13 18:48
Between them Betfair & ATR have ruined the US racing,just watch ATR any night like tonight endless replays that most punters have already seen several times,plus endless "GAME ON " Ladbrokes adverts that drive any self respecting punter to turn the sound off,then Betfair LV so hit and miss,plus many of the bigger players have been hit by the unfair premium charge that it makes it not worth the effort any more,these were the people that made the markets,now liquidity is virtually non existent on many of the markets,maybe it will pick up now the winters here but imo I very much doubt it will ever go back to what it was 5 years or so ago.
By:
Bsmith
When: 06 Nov 13 23:42
need to bring back Golden Gate, Hollywood, Santa Anita and the like
By:
NewGuy@BF
When: 13 Nov 13 19:20
100% false less racing here has NEVER ONCE resulted in more liquidity.
Why do people believe this rubbish?
Paying highest commissions ever for least amount of racing ever.
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 14 Nov 13 20:14
we need more tracks to increase interest and liquidity

OP is mad
By:
pmbets
When: 19 Nov 13 21:19
The PC charge was the main thing,so I would blame BF most for the massive drop in liquidity.
Us big players used to put £5000 each in some races.The spreads where very tight and prices  very generous.
Near 100% books.Now well if you back you lsoe if you lay you lose and BF cross matching bets take up all the value and mistakes made.
So the value is sucked from the market.Absolute joke.
By:
TOP GAMBLER
When: 19 Nov 13 21:42
its scary how bad liquidity has been lately Sad
By:
pmbets
When: 19 Nov 13 23:10
I feel the end of Betfair is in sight now .Im fully dedicated to the purple now.Give it a go as liquidity will be massive for a couple of years.
I am planning to seed there for a long time to help them out.

It has become impossible for anyone to win now medium to long term.
By:
salmon spray
When: 19 Nov 13 23:24
Are there US markets on purple ?
If there are they don't mention them.
By:
Bsmith
When: 20 Nov 13 00:18
always have been salmon spray
By:
Bsmith
When: 20 Nov 13 00:24
liquidity used to be not so good, but now ladcrookes have taken it over its about the same as it is here, poor! lol
By:
rink rat
When: 20 Nov 13 03:17
With winter here, now is the time for PC incentive(rebate) to play and liven up these markets once again.
By:
Musik
When: 20 Nov 13 19:03
Really miss Santa, Golden Gate on here
By:
billybongo
When: 21 Nov 13 13:17
Which of the US tracks do u think the betfair gets right the most?
By:
RiskyBusiness
When: 21 Nov 13 19:24
the daq don't seem to have aqueduct though, do they now, for some reason? and also just stop covering anything at around 2 am uk time, so still quite poor in comparison imo
By:
Boogie Cat
When: 09 Dec 13 11:13
i dont bet u s horses anymore and thats all i used to bet. when liquidity went i left.

the markets dont get going until 2 mins before the off, if at all. hope liquidity comes back, but until it does I'll stick to other sports.

i think the comm charge made a big difference to the markets.
By:
salmon spray
When: 09 Dec 13 15:55
I don't think it's as good as a few years ago,but there was all but £100k matched on two successive minor races at Hawthorn the other night. Liquidity is poorer at the bigger tracks most of the time.
By:
NewGuy@BF
When: 09 Dec 13 20:12
They are taking more commissions than ever and attracting less new money than ever.  Just look at the register dates above.
By:
salmon spray
When: 09 Dec 13 21:22
The reason we've all been here forever is that they have not been taking new forum registrations since Aug 2012. Don't think they've been turning away punters.
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