Monday fun

i didnt notive a big drift on it irish went from around 6/4 to 8/5? anyway its obvious what was going on there

Of course it drifted
Tod posts a shortie and I lay it as usual

Cheers gov

PID race 4

#2 interesting for me up in distance back to the mile, Barn had a nice winner in race 1 and is the least exposed of these lot, 5/2+ seems fair enough. GL

Yeah just a big volume came against it late, shame a lot of races are not ran as they should be.

pid 1 @9.0+ gl

PID 8 at 20+

easy analysis after the race Irish????

No just a blind man can see these faves in America being laid for chunks,and lo and behold they run a stinker or the jockey finds trouble or he blows the start.Dont take a rocket scientist to work out whats going on there does it.

so irish celtic nothing new  same rules applies to UK/Irish racing

Irish
to be fair to Tod which is not something I usually do !
The horse found trouble in running and was a reasonable favourite
They dont all win

I wasn't having a go at Tod just was surprised he seemed a bit shocked by it

Must be a right pain in the aarse when you read the form well like he does and quite a few races are a bit bent.

4-2 PID
U/L Tod

4-2 PID

dont think it goes on too much at PID which is why i like handicaping there

Maybe im a bit cynical Mr disicipline  but I agree with you.Happens day in day out.

Damm I must practice taking that hood off a bit better.What you think Mr trainer?

We all know that it happens, the problem is too many people on here think it happens in almost every race from the amount of posts on bad/crooked rides on the Horse Racing Forum and in my view that just isn't the case.
I would agree in a lot of the lower class racing that a lot of "ill judged" rides occur but as I have posted on numerous occasions it is not compulsory to play the poor racing, so why do people...? Lack of discipline and respect for their money can be the only reasons.
Same as it has always been, play selectively and if you are any kind of judge you will make it pay.

MNR 6&9 gl

Well in my opinion the game is riddled with it. But that's what its all about opinions.

MP 3
laid 6 earlier at evens

MP R1 prefer 6 to 9, hopefully 7 will push 6 to put distance between itself and the closers, gl all

9-3-4

wd horts/tobahar

Irish celtic i have nothing against your opinions just the way you put it faves in America,yup happens everywhere

mnr 9-3-4

thanks CL gl & gn

PID 5

3 wont be winning this judged by the market.

Actually its gone back in heavily at the death so maybe.

4-3-5
nothing fixed there

Nope not fixed  just could tell he was gonna get a race of it by the market.

sometimes you can read too much into market movements, better to look at the form and judge what is value to you. make a decision and stick with it
Oh and be patient

Good advice Horts. Goodnight and goodluck

Irish - celtic .Leave it out you post after races your sage like wisdom . But pre-race  who knows ??????

MP 5 at over 20s for me

2b won MP

1 PID 3.5
a shortie for me

I'm sure most of you play the UK market, given its Goodwood for the next five days, just monitor how many posts there are about bent rides etc there, over the next few days.
People are quick to accuse others of wrong doing rather than admit that they themselves have made a bad choice, which is ridiculous because we all pick stinkers occasionally, only a few of us have the good grace to admit it when we get it wrong though.

I'd have to say Pino didn't give that the greatest of rides Horts

4-3-1
terrible fixed ride on the 1 which finished like a train and then pulled back

Misjudged or not off?

MP 4 at 9.8 ish

Noticeable how all the pools at MP are very evenly matched, their patrons obviously feel obliged to play each and every one of them...!

very unlucky Horts

mugged on the line i think

PID fancies?

PID race 7

#5 for me at 3/1+ win and place, barn had a nice winner earlier on and should get a nice spot in this race. GL

4 at 9s for me

Looks like 4 is the only pace, maybe Pablo can steal it if they allow him to dictate soft fractions but would I part with money on this race....? NO

feck me photo too close to call between 5-6 pid

close Tod

Delta Lady maybe just

thought it was 3 & 5..?

sorry 3 yes

3 got photo from the 5, at least still got the place

between 3 and 5. My guess is 3 just got it

Pino got that right

1.15 tip along n.o 2 think 20s + is a big price

Reckon he read on here that you had that 100/1 shot Horts and thought he don't need no 3.5 winner and saved his strength for that last one...!

MP R4 hoping 5 softens up the 4 and 6 reaps the benefit on the run for home, gl all

lol cork
cant have this fav in the next at 1.6 ish
awful jockey and trainer

backed 3 and 5

in and out for 1
mount
betting #6      Eddikins
gl

and 1 for my second 100/1 shot tonight

Good luck and goodnight all

Very poor selection from yours truly, no excuses, a bad pick...!

PID race 1

2/1 was the breaking point for me, im going to give this #1 another chance had excuses last time, should lead here and cuts back to 5.5f a wire to wire shot for me. GL

PID r8

PID R8 little on the 2, must have prospects of getting closer to the 1 on this second start

1-2 exacta aswell

Odd looking market compared to the tote

some of them been in there a good while

ffs 1 just broke out of gates and loose

i want it scratched now

scratch coming up

yep #1 scratched PID

probably got fed up of waiting, it did take them an inordinate time to load

Scratch man here has left the building

can't back anything in this race now as the r4 will be huge

Irish - celtic .Leave it out you post after races your sage like wisdom . But pre-race  who knows ?????? Laugh


Leave it out Tobahar ,you are the biggest guesser on here and everybody knows it.

If some of you guys think all racing is straight then God help you is all I can say.

quite like the 5 at mountaineer with the other two fancied runners hold up horses.  could get a soft lead.

Anyone with any common sense, knows that all racing is not straight, the grey area is agreeing on how much is actually worked out before the off, and in my view that is clouded by peoples failure to accept that they made bad calls in some cases and that it wasn't down to the race already being sorted out.

wd steview

well i was aided by some poor jockeyship there!!

Very well done stevie

ty cork

ty irish

wd stevie at mount read that perfectly

Cork Langer -You are correct and it does not happen as much as ppl think.Some of you seem to assume im a conspiary nutjob because I brought up the topic tonight.It certainly will not happen in the big races and guys will accuse all sorts cos they done their dough.The point I made is that it happens on a regular basis in American racing and I don't understand why people get hot under the collar when that fact is mentioned.

i find the american racing runs more to form than british/irish.  perhaps thats down to the fact that the racecourses are all flat and have a decent straight after the bend.  no horrible cambers and getting trapped like we will see at goodwood all week.  it does irk me when i'm on a jockey that takes a horse wide instead of coming up the inside which is where most races are won, but you have to take it on the chin when gambling.

anyway fancy the 2 in the next at mountaineer, would be favorite without the long absence and i'm happy to have a tenner on at 13.5/1. 
layed the 5 for a few quid too.

Irish - I for one didn't take offence at your post, a valid point as far as I'm concerned, I've been playing the US racing for longer than I care to remember and there hasn't been a day yet where I haven't seen a pre-conceived result play out in front of me, its part and parcel of the game and whilst on occasion I've lost because of it, on many occasions I have gained.

MP trying the 1 to upset the 5, gl all

think mines lost a leg.
hope something can beat the 5.

Interesting that Timeform don't have 5 in their top 3...!

oh well thats me for the night.
good luck cork.

Bit of a romp, time to say gn & gl all

GN ALL

anyone here for the next?

Mount race 7

#4 for me, on the hat trick bid tonight finally seems to have found its stride, form franked the horse it beat 2 back Saint Geroge has gone on to win 2 in a row since aswell and gets Pilares tonight, should get a nice stalking spot in here behind a dueling 5 and 6? GL

layed 4 and price keeps dropping, put the rest on 5

layed 4 the place

5 wins

lay of the 5 for the place...price too low on recent form with the front two in the market looking very strong