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paradox and equilibrium
29 Jul 13 19:34
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1 at FL race 4. 6.8 a gift.
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Report MS DHONI July 29, 2013 11:30 PM BST
i didnt notive a big drift on it irish went from around 6/4 to 8/5? anyway its obvious what was going on there
Report Horts July 29, 2013 11:31 PM BST
Of course it drifted
Tod posts a shortie and I lay it as usual Mischief
Report Cork Langer July 29, 2013 11:32 PM BST
Cheers gov
Report MS DHONI July 29, 2013 11:33 PM BST
PID race 4

#2 interesting for me up in distance back to the mile, Barn had a nice winner in race 1 and is the least exposed of these lot, 5/2+ seems fair enough. GL
Report Irish_Celtic July 29, 2013 11:34 PM BST
Yeah just a big volume came against it late, shame a lot of races are not ran as they should be.
Report tobahar July 29, 2013 11:35 PM BST
pid 1 @9.0+ gl
Report Horts July 29, 2013 11:36 PM BST
PID 8 at 20+
Report tobahar July 29, 2013 11:40 PM BST
easy analysis after the race Irish????
Report Irish_Celtic July 29, 2013 11:43 PM BST
No just a blind man can see these faves in America being laid for chunks,and lo and behold they run a stinker or the jockey finds trouble or he blows the start.Dont take a rocket scientist to work out whats going on there does it.
Report disicipline=£££££££££££££sssss July 29, 2013 11:45 PM BST
so irish celtic nothing new  same rules applies to UK/Irish racing
Report Horts July 29, 2013 11:45 PM BST
Irish
to be fair to Tod which is not something I usually do !
The horse found trouble in running and was a reasonable favourite
They dont all win
Report Irish_Celtic July 29, 2013 11:45 PM BST
I wasn't having a go at Tod just was surprised he seemed a bit shocked by it Happy

Must be a right pain in the aarse when you read the form well like he does and quite a few races are a bit bent.
Report Horts July 29, 2013 11:47 PM BST
4-2 PID
U/L Tod
Report MS DHONI July 29, 2013 11:48 PM BST
4-2 PID

dont think it goes on too much at PID which is why i like handicaping there
Report Irish_Celtic July 29, 2013 11:48 PM BST
Maybe im a bit cynical Mr disicipline  but I agree with you.Happens day in day out.

Damm I must practice taking that hood off a bit better.What you think Mr trainer? Laugh
Report Cork Langer July 29, 2013 11:55 PM BST
We all know that it happens, the problem is too many people on here think it happens in almost every race from the amount of posts on bad/crooked rides on the Horse Racing Forum and in my view that just isn't the case.
I would agree in a lot of the lower class racing that a lot of "ill judged" rides occur but as I have posted on numerous occasions it is not compulsory to play the poor racing, so why do people...? Lack of discipline and respect for their money can be the only reasons.
Same as it has always been, play selectively and if you are any kind of judge you will make it pay.
Report tobahar July 29, 2013 11:59 PM BST
MNR 6&9 gl
Report Irish_Celtic July 29, 2013 11:59 PM BST
Well in my opinion the game is riddled with it. But that's what its all about opinions.
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:00 AM BST
MP 3
laid 6 earlier at evens
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:01 AM BST
MP R1 prefer 6 to 9, hopefully 7 will push 6 to put distance between itself and the closers, gl all
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:03 AM BST
9-3-4
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:03 AM BST
wd horts/tobahar
Report disicipline=£££££££££££££sssss July 30, 2013 12:03 AM BST
Irish celtic i have nothing against your opinions just the way you put it faves in America,yup happens everywhere
Report tobahar July 30, 2013 12:04 AM BST
mnr 9-3-4Happy
Report tobahar July 30, 2013 12:06 AM BST
thanks CL gl & gn
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:07 AM BST
PID 5
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 12:09 AM BST
3 wont be winning this judged by the market.
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 12:10 AM BST
Actually its gone back in heavily at the death so maybe.
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:12 AM BST
4-3-5
nothing fixed there
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 12:14 AM BST
Nope not fixed  just could tell he was gonna get a race of it by the market.
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:19 AM BST
sometimes you can read too much into market movements, better to look at the form and judge what is value to you. make a decision and stick with it
Oh and be patient
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 12:21 AM BST
Good advice Horts. Goodnight and goodluck
Report tobahar July 30, 2013 12:25 AM BST
Irish - celtic .Leave it out you post after races your sage like wisdom . But pre-race  who knows ?????? Laugh
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:27 AM BST
MP 5 at over 20s for me
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:28 AM BST
2b won MP
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:31 AM BST
1 PID 3.5
a shortie for me
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:31 AM BST
I'm sure most of you play the UK market, given its Goodwood for the next five days, just monitor how many posts there are about bent rides etc there, over the next few days.
People are quick to accuse others of wrong doing rather than admit that they themselves have made a bad choice, which is ridiculous because we all pick stinkers occasionally, only a few of us have the good grace to admit it when we get it wrong though.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:37 AM BST
I'd have to say Pino didn't give that the greatest of rides Horts
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:37 AM BST
4-3-1
terrible fixed ride on the 1 which finished like a train and then pulled back
Report guru m July 30, 2013 12:44 AM BST
Misjudged or not off?
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:48 AM BST
MP 4 at 9.8 ish
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:51 AM BST
Noticeable how all the pools at MP are very evenly matched, their patrons obviously feel obliged to play each and every one of them...!
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:53 AM BST
very unlucky Horts
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:53 AM BST
mugged on the line i think Cry
Report guru m July 30, 2013 12:55 AM BST
PID fancies?
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 12:57 AM BST
PID race 7

#5 for me at 3/1+ win and place, barn had a nice winner earlier on and should get a nice spot in this race. GL
Report Horts July 30, 2013 12:58 AM BST
4 at 9s for me
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 12:59 AM BST
Looks like 4 is the only pace, maybe Pablo can steal it if they allow him to dictate soft fractions but would I part with money on this race....? NO
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:02 AM BST
feck me photo too close to call between 5-6 pid
Report Horts July 30, 2013 1:02 AM BST
close Tod
Report Here come the steamer July 30, 2013 1:03 AM BST
Delta Lady maybe just
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:04 AM BST
thought it was 3 & 5..?
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:05 AM BST
sorry 3 yes

3 got photo from the 5, at least still got the place
Report Here come the steamer July 30, 2013 1:05 AM BST
between 3 and 5. My guess is 3 just got it
Report Horts July 30, 2013 1:05 AM BST
Pino got that right Sad
Report Here come the steamer July 30, 2013 1:09 AM BST
1.15 tip along n.o 2 think 20s + is a big price
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:09 AM BST
Reckon he read on here that you had that 100/1 shot Horts and thought he don't need no 3.5 winner and saved his strength for that last one...!
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:11 AM BST
MP R4 hoping 5 softens up the 4 and 6 reaps the benefit on the run for home, gl all
Report Horts July 30, 2013 1:12 AM BST
lol cork
cant have this fav in the next at 1.6 ish
awful jockey and trainer

backed 3 and 5
Report Bsmith July 30, 2013 1:12 AM BST
in and out for 1
mount
betting #6      Eddikins
gl
Report Horts July 30, 2013 1:14 AM BST
and 1 for my second 100/1 shot tonight

Good luck and goodnight all
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:19 AM BST
Very poor selection from yours truly, no excuses, a bad pick...!
Report Bsmith July 30, 2013 1:19 AM BST
Cry
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:21 AM BST
PID race 1

2/1 was the breaking point for me, im going to give this #1 another chance had excuses last time, should lead here and cuts back to 5.5f a wire to wire shot for me. GL
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:21 AM BST
PID r8
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:24 AM BST
PID R8 little on the 2, must have prospects of getting closer to the 1 on this second start
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:27 AM BST
1-2 exacta aswell
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:27 AM BST
Odd looking market compared to the tote
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:29 AM BST
some of them been in there a good while
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:31 AM BST
ffs 1 just broke out of gates and loose

i want it scratched now
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:31 AM BST
scratch coming up
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:32 AM BST
yep #1 scratched PID
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:32 AM BST
probably got fed up of waiting, it did take them an inordinate time to load
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:33 AM BST
Scratch man here has left the building
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:34 AM BST
can't back anything in this race now as the r4 will be huge
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 1:35 AM BST
Irish - celtic .Leave it out you post after races your sage like wisdom . But pre-race  who knows ?????? Laugh


Leave it out Tobahar ,you are the biggest guesser on here and everybody knows it.

If some of you guys think all racing is straight then God help you is all I can say.
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:38 AM BST
quite like the 5 at mountaineer with the other two fancied runners hold up horses.  could get a soft lead.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:42 AM BST
Anyone with any common sense, knows that all racing is not straight, the grey area is agreeing on how much is actually worked out before the off, and in my view that is clouded by peoples failure to accept that they made bad calls in some cases and that it wasn't down to the race already being sorted out.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 1:43 AM BST
wd steview
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:44 AM BST
well i was aided by some poor jockeyship there!!
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 1:44 AM BST
Very well done stevie
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:44 AM BST
ty cork
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:44 AM BST
ty irish
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 1:47 AM BST
wd stevie at mount read that perfectly
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 1:51 AM BST
Cork Langer -You are correct and it does not happen as much as ppl think.Some of you seem to assume im a conspiary nutjob because I brought up the topic tonight.It certainly will not happen in the big races and guys will accuse all sorts cos they done their dough.The point I made is that it happens on a regular basis in American racing and I don't understand why people get hot under the collar when that fact is mentioned.
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:54 AM BST
i find the american racing runs more to form than british/irish.  perhaps thats down to the fact that the racecourses are all flat and have a decent straight after the bend.  no horrible cambers and getting trapped like we will see at goodwood all week.  it does irk me when i'm on a jockey that takes a horse wide instead of coming up the inside which is where most races are won, but you have to take it on the chin when gambling.
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 1:55 AM BST
anyway fancy the 2 in the next at mountaineer, would be favorite without the long absence and i'm happy to have a tenner on at 13.5/1. 
layed the 5 for a few quid too.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 2:02 AM BST
Irish - I for one didn't take offence at your post, a valid point as far as I'm concerned, I've been playing the US racing for longer than I care to remember and there hasn't been a day yet where I haven't seen a pre-conceived result play out in front of me, its part and parcel of the game and whilst on occasion I've lost because of it, on many occasions I have gained.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 2:04 AM BST
MP trying the 1 to upset the 5, gl all
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 2:05 AM BST
think mines lost a leg.
hope something can beat the 5.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 2:06 AM BST
Interesting that Timeform don't have 5 in their top 3...!
Report steview84 July 30, 2013 2:08 AM BST
Cry
oh well thats me for the night.
good luck cork.
Report Cork Langer July 30, 2013 2:08 AM BST
Bit of a romp, time to say gn & gl all
Report Irish_Celtic July 30, 2013 2:11 AM BST
GN ALL
Report Carlovian July 30, 2013 2:26 AM BST
anyone here for the next?
Report MS DHONI July 30, 2013 2:27 AM BST
Mount race 7

#4 for me, on the hat trick bid tonight finally seems to have found its stride, form franked the horse it beat 2 back Saint Geroge has gone on to win 2 in a row since aswell and gets Pilares tonight, should get a nice stalking spot in here behind a dueling 5 and 6? GL
Report Owen1981 July 30, 2013 2:28 AM BST
layed 4 and price keeps dropping, put the rest on 5
Report Carlovian July 30, 2013 2:32 AM BST
layed 4 the place
Report Owen1981 July 30, 2013 2:34 AM BST
5 wins
Report Carlovian July 30, 2013 2:57 AM BST
lay of the 5 for the place...price too low on recent form with the front two in the market looking very strong
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